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Tramadol made me have a Seizure!
#17942169 - 03/12/13 01:30 AM (11 years, 19 days ago) |
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Hey guys,
So yesterday, I had taken some Tramadol and Gabapentin for my Sciatica. More Tramadol then normal, but I've taken more before.
A couple ours later I had a court ordered group drug&alcohol counseling meeting to attend.
When I got there, me and a friend of mine started setting up chairs, the next thing I know I wake up on a hospital bed, getting rolled into an Ambulance.
I talked to my friend who was there, and he said that I was shaking vigorously, foaming at the mouth, and sounded like I was being electrocuted. He also said there was a point where I didn't breathe for about two minutes.
So I get to the hospital, they inject me with Lorazepam (awesome) put me through 2 CT scans, then they released me.
Have you ever had a Seizure? Scary stuff....
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Re: Tramadol made me have a Seizure! [Re: ArtieFartie]
#17942187 - 03/12/13 01:39 AM (11 years, 19 days ago) |
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If this was ODD I'd probably post it but not Pub.
You really should post something though in ODD under opiates (should be opiods but whatever) on your doses, time, frequency, etc to prevent this from happening to other people.
I've read of it before but wow, an actual experience, that kind of really sucks and I'm sorry for your pain.
Feel free to contribute to the gabapentin thread I've got going there, I'm still trying to give it a decent go for my pain and it looks like I need to find a sweet spot for it.
Very weird head feeling, my mood and thoughts are a lot different, but if it can make my pain go away and not be a terrible opiate, I can get my grip on shit, ya kno?
Pain fucking sucks dick. I'm so very sorry you had a seizure.
I had started taking Wellbutrin way back when and forget that I had started it, took some DXM powder and completely forgot about it. It was the worst trip of my life. I'm pretty sure I seized out. Reality was gone for a very long time and I wet myself, also chipped a tooth. All of the muscles in my body were sore. I guess that's more seratonin syndrome but still.. God what a tough lesson to learn the very hard way. I never fucked up with drugs like that again (as far as mixing, knowing my mind/body/source/dose/etc).
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Re: Tramadol made me have a Seizure! [Re: Adden]
#17942213 - 03/12/13 01:48 AM (11 years, 19 days ago) |
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Dystopia said: If this was ODD I'd probably post it but not Pub.
You really should post something though in ODD under opiates (should be opiods but whatever) on your doses, time, frequency, etc to prevent this from happening to other people.
I've read of it before but wow, an actual experience, that kind of really sucks and I'm sorry for your pain.
Feel free to contribute to the gabapentin thread I've got going there, I'm still trying to give it a decent go for my pain and it looks like I need to find a sweet spot for it.
Very weird head feeling, my mood and thoughts are a lot different, but if it can make my pain go away and not be a terrible opiate, I can get my grip on shit, ya kno?
Pain fucking sucks dick. I'm so very sorry you had a seizure.
I had started taking Wellbutrin way back when and forget that I had started it, took some DXM powder and completely forgot about it. It was the worst trip of my life. I'm pretty sure I seized out. Reality was gone for a very long time and I wet myself, also chipped a tooth. All of the muscles in my body were sore. I guess that's more seratonin syndrome but still.. God what a tough lesson to learn the very hard way. I never fucked up with drugs like that again (as far as mixing, knowing my mind/body/source/dose/etc).
I love Gaba, the effects remind me of a low dose of MDMA without the rolling. You get energy, your body feels great, and you get a very good mood uplift.
And I didn't know seizures from tramadol were rare. Are they? That's what I assumed from your post.
Anyways, Thanks man, Seizures really do suck dick.
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Re: Tramadol made me have a Seizure! [Re: ArtieFartie]
#17942272 - 03/12/13 02:19 AM (11 years, 19 days ago) |
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You hear about them every now and then in some opiate threads. Someone will give a casual mention of it in ODD or something.
I mean, seizures are a side-effect, so they must happen to a lot of people who have taken it.
Last night I had taken a bit of kratom, too much gabapentin for my own good and got really baked, I dunno, I finally found a sweet spot for gaba.
The combo kinda felt like tripping and definitely mdma, everything was interesting and tactile was awesome. I went 4x4'ing on unplowed old ass logging roads with fresh snow. And before I get any shit for it, I was running to town for supplies before a snowstorm and only idiots like me drive those roads, hour+ away from any help if you get stuck.
But yea, I dunno, gaba's just.. weird. I kind of like it now. I have a thread over there on it and it didn't treat me good last time but I think it's working well right now.
It's hard to differentiate from the kratom.
I'm really tired of my dance with opiates and my pain. I should just order a shitload of tramadol from India and get going here on gabapentin and give it another chance. I nearly broke down last night because it was the first time I was completely pain-free for the first time in 10 years. It was a reminder of "The Life That Once Was" for me.
There's gotta be a solution to this pain and not opiates.
I'm sorry about your sciatica, my wife has it very bad -- as bad as my other back pain is, sciatica is something I'm very glad I don't have. I nearly developed it due to powerlifting.. squats, dead lifts, clean and jerks, prepping for a competition. Thankfully (I guess) both my shoulders got pulled out of socket leading to surgeries but it saved my lower back thank god.
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Re: Tramadol made me have a Seizure! [Re: Adden]
#17942388 - 03/12/13 03:48 AM (11 years, 19 days ago) |
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Dude I hate to say it, but I'm glad someone finally addresses that tramadol causes seizures.
And shouldn't be played around with.
Hope you're okay though, OP.
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Re: Tramadol made me have a Seizure! [Re: Legend]
#17942402 - 03/12/13 03:58 AM (11 years, 19 days ago) |
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I found that if I mix tramadol or hydrocodone with anything it gives me the shimmies and scares the shit out of me furthermore I cannot go beyond the recommended doses
I can't so much as have a couple beers, coffee, or weed with that shit just makes me racey and nervous.
I like those drugs but because they're no good in conjunction with anything else I rarely take them. They're good for a road trip if someone else is driving.
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Re: Tramadol made me have a Seizure! [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#17942504 - 03/12/13 05:03 AM (11 years, 19 days ago) |
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I use to take doses up to 400mg with little ill effects, i must be lucky, i felt as though i OD'ed on it once though. I believe that dose was 400 IR, i had flushes and passed out a couple times while puking everywhere... Restless twitching legs too.
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Re: Tramadol made me have a Seizure! [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#17942512 - 03/12/13 05:11 AM (11 years, 19 days ago) |
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have had a couple. Major leauge sucks! Have the mentioned keppra (leveciratitum)? They put me on that. I have only seizured out after over-drinking. Always feel it coming on right before, do you?
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Re: Tramadol made me have a Seizure! [Re: Legend]
#17942654 - 03/12/13 06:29 AM (11 years, 19 days ago) |
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legit27 said: Dude I hate to say it, but I'm glad someone finally addresses that tramadol causes seizures.
And shouldn't be played around with.
Hope you're okay though, OP.
Seems like a recognized side effect. Almost common.
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Re: Tramadol made me have a Seizure! [Re: koods]
#17942682 - 03/12/13 06:38 AM (11 years, 19 days ago) |
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koods said:
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legit27 said: Dude I hate to say it, but I'm glad someone finally addresses that tramadol causes seizures.
And shouldn't be played around with.
Hope you're okay though, OP.
Seems like a recognized side effect. Almost common.
I can only ever remember one person in over 15 years getting a seizure, and this one time is it.
I wouldn't classify it nowhere near being common.
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Re: Tramadol made me have a Seizure! [Re: Legend]
#17943499 - 03/12/13 11:39 AM (11 years, 19 days ago) |
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legit27 said: Dude I hate to say it, but I'm glad someone finally addresses that tramadol causes seizures.
And shouldn't be played around with.
Hope you're okay though, OP.
I suspect the risk only comes into play when:
1- You are for some reason naturally seizure prone...
2- You are mixing the tramadol with certain other drugs....
3- You are taking a FUCKTON of tramadol...
Especially number 2. Most of the cases I've heard of, in fact (including yours, technically, though I don't know Gabapentin's mechanism of action) fall under rule number 2. Stimulants seem to be especially worrying.
I've eaten hundreds of mgs at a time without incident. Pretty sure once or twice even with ephedrine. Of course, I know that just because I, or anyone, got away with it, that doesn't mean it's safe--could just be I was lucky. Just saying, though...
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Re: Tramadol made me have a Seizure! [Re: CidneyIndole]
#17943544 - 03/12/13 11:48 AM (11 years, 19 days ago) |
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Tramadol will do it sometimes. I took it for a while and it was okay, I was just lethargic and dull-witted. I can have seizures as a result of the MPD, but also when the headaches get out of control (had one yesterday morning as a matter of fact).
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Re: Tramadol made me have a Seizure! [Re: Legend] 1
#17943688 - 03/12/13 12:24 PM (11 years, 19 days ago) |
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legit27 said: Dude I hate to say it, but I'm glad someone finally addresses that tramadol causes seizures.
And shouldn't be played around with.
Hope you're okay though, OP.
I remember us dropping some knowledge about it on someone in chat. But anyways, Tramadol is strange. It lowers your seizure threshold, for some people to the extent that a lower dose can cause a seizure after continued use while using it solely recreationally at high doses will never create noticeable effect (aside from mu-opiod stimulation, obviously).
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Re: Tramadol made me have a Seizure! [Re: ArtieFartie]
#17943721 - 03/12/13 12:29 PM (11 years, 19 days ago) |
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This is the sole reason I've had tramadol in my medicine cabinet for a year and haven't dared to try it.
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Re: Tramadol made me have a Seizure! [Re: SOLID BASTARD]
#17944204 - 03/12/13 02:38 PM (11 years, 19 days ago) |
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Cutless said: I remember us dropping some knowledge about it on someone in chat. But anyways, Tramadol is strange. It lowers your seizure threshold, for some people to the extent that a lower dose can cause a seizure after continued use while using it solely recreationally at high doses will never create noticeable effect (aside from mu-opiod stimulation, obviously).
I was revisiting this thread to post just this.
and dropping knowledge like a preacher with an ill sermon preachin
I really hope 'dropping knowledge' doesn't become too dated.
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Re: Tramadol made me have a Seizure! [Re: Adden]
#17944278 - 03/12/13 02:54 PM (11 years, 19 days ago) |
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It's right on the bottle and accompanying RX brochure.
"This medicine when taken at above prescribed dosages increases the chances for seizures."
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Re: Tramadol made me have a Seizure! [Re: Its Pat]
#17944351 - 03/12/13 03:10 PM (11 years, 19 days ago) |
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Its Pat said:
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koods said:
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legit27 said: Dude I hate to say it, but I'm glad someone finally addresses that tramadol causes seizures.
And shouldn't be played around with.
Hope you're okay though, OP.
Seems like a recognized side effect. Almost common.
I can only ever remember one person in over 15 years getting a seizure, and this one time is it.
I wouldn't classify it nowhere near being common.
It's mentioned right at the top of the list of serious side effects in the monograph.
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Re: Tramadol made me have a Seizure! [Re: Its Pat]
#17944448 - 03/12/13 03:27 PM (11 years, 19 days ago) |
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Its Pat said:
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koods said:
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legit27 said: Dude I hate to say it, but I'm glad someone finally addresses that tramadol causes seizures.
And shouldn't be played around with.
Hope you're okay though, OP.
Seems like a recognized side effect. Almost common.
I can only ever remember one person in over 15 years getting a seizure, and this one time is it.
I wouldn't classify it nowhere near being common.
Ive been experimenting with tramadol for a decade now. My father has been taking it everyday pretty much for the last 5 years. I'm very familiar and fond of Tramadol. Used properly there is little risk.
I've read about the seizure risk and have looked up stories about it on erowid. Every Tramadol induced seizure story I've read about has one thing in common: A ridiculously high dose.
Don't mix Tramadol with weird shit and don't take a reckless amount. If you have epilepsy or risk of seizures don't take Tramadol. I got a free prescription of tramadol from a girl I know who has epilepsy. She sprained something and was prescribed it at the ER. Her regular doc was like stop taking that shit.
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Re: Tramadol made me have a Seizure! [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
#17944509 - 03/12/13 03:36 PM (11 years, 19 days ago) |
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I didn't realize it can cause seizures. My mom takes it for arthritis, and my sister takes it occasionally to clean her house. It hypes her up. I've only ever taken it once and it didn't do anything for the pain I was in so I didn't take it again. Thanks for the warning, I'll pass on the info.
Glad you're alright, OP.
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beautifuldowngrade said: I didn't realize it can cause seizures. My mom takes it for arthritis, and my sister takes it occasionally to clean her house. It hypes her up. I've only ever taken it once and it didn't do anything for the pain I was in so I didn't take it again. Thanks for the warning, I'll pass on the info.
Glad you're alright, OP.
It has such a low affinity to your opioid receptors and makes me shake like when I take Somas. If taken as prescribed tho, you shouldn't be concerned with seizures unless you are prone to them.
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