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loppo
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Registered: 12/27/98
Posts: 75
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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms 2
#17735 - 05/20/00 12:19 PM (23 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sorry to hear about your arrest, however I find it HIGHLY unlikely that the government was tracking your web browsing, or they are getting records from JLF. Maybe a landlord saw your trash? Just a possibility...anyway hope it all turns out for the best. Good luck.
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Anonymous
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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
#17737 - 05/20/00 12:26 PM (23 years, 9 months ago) |
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There is a strong misconception on what and what not the 'government' can do, one thing they cannot do is 'track down where you visit', they would have to go to your home and install some sort of software that everytime you visited a 'inappropriate site' it would contact them and give them logs, so... in order for some shit like that to happen, it would first most-likey be illegal, and hard to do... so.. my guess is you did something really stupid, or bragged about growing shrooms, and someone ratted on yer ass, or they saw some shit in yer trash can, but vermiculite isn't probable cause to get a warrant.. a tip is though... HOW TO PREVENT IT IN THE FUTURE: =============================== DONT TELL PEOPLE YOU ARE GROWING THEM DONT LEAVE 'OBVIOUS' GROWING MATERIAL IN THE TRASH \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ later.
[This message has been edited by tekniq (edited May 20, 2000).]
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psychotrip
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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo] 1
#17738 - 05/20/00 12:32 PM (23 years, 9 months ago) |
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Your landlord could be snooping around in your mail. Alot of loser landlords seem to do this if they don't particularly like you.
-------------------- My daddy always told me, "Watch who you date... she might be your sister."
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DinoMyc
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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo] 1
#17739 - 05/20/00 01:04 PM (23 years, 9 months ago) |
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heh.. unfortunately tracking people online is UNBELIEVEABLY easy... i have done it.. to people on the network im on, and to others online.. if you are at a major node, you CAN track ALL the info coming through.. you just set a flag for a particular IP or mac address.. and you can see it all.. so long as its going through where you are.. but since the gov. has access to the major piplines, its not unlikly that they monitor everything.. keep the MAN outta our lives? he is here, and has been for a long time, just waiting till were all weak..
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Anonymous
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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
#17740 - 05/20/00 01:24 PM (23 years, 9 months ago) |
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WOw, that really fucking sucks. I bet your parents were pissed as hell. This kind of thing makes me paranoid. I'm glad you shared your story I will be careful as hell.
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Anonymous
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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
#17741 - 05/20/00 01:52 PM (23 years, 9 months ago) |
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Uhm.... Yeah you 'CAN' do it, but it takes knowledge in networking and tcp/ip, and... why the fuck would they hire some dood to 'spy' on this guy just to see if he was growing shrooms. -- makes no sense. so.. my conclusion is he told someone. or someone saw him. - the end -
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Anonymous
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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
#17742 - 05/20/00 02:06 PM (23 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'd like to know what police agency busted him. The anonymous tip nonsense is a really scary facet of drug war legislation. Informants can get up to %25 of seized assets. That is scary as shit. As to tracking, anyone on a lan or cable modem is completely vulnerable to packet sniffers. God, I must be more careful. I'm pretty sure mere web surfing isn't probable cause. I wonder if they seized his computer? anyone else have "gettin busted" stories to share?
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Anonymous
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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
#17743 - 05/20/00 02:12 PM (23 years, 9 months ago) |
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I use a regular old External modem.,and i run Windows 98 with patches or my secure Linux box to access this shit.. also... another tip... IF YOU WANT TO BE SURE you dont get busted, you should use proxy's on any web boards that reveal your true IP addy. be safe, don't act like there aren't fucking feds coming in here, i see people all the time posting things that they've only posted like 1 post.. begging for someone to send them spores or some shit like that... i dont trust those people. i dont trust a lot of people... be careful.
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Anonymous
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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
#17744 - 05/20/00 02:25 PM (23 years, 9 months ago) |
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I guarantee you your landlord came in to change your a/c filter and saw your setup, they dont need to give you written notice to enter for scheduled maintenance. the same thing happened to my brother, except he had 4 marijuana plants. landlords are 9 out of 10 times assholes.
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Anonymous
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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
#17745 - 05/20/00 02:46 PM (23 years, 9 months ago) |
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I agree... a land lords needs no permition to go into the house. He probly saw this and called the cops. Why would he want this in his place of work?... think of some of the people it might atract.. ext. as to the trash.;... unless some one tipped them first thats a crime for them to search it. IM like 99.9 percent sure it was the land lord... either that or your full of shit on all of this ;*)------------------ I have a bigger shroom then you do :*)
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Anonymous
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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
#17746 - 05/20/00 06:05 PM (23 years, 9 months ago) |
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In the immortal words of that black dude from Repo Man - "I call buulllshiit on that."Could this post by the Botanically Bliss'd One be simple propaganda of the Drug War? Sounds like something the Partnership for a Drug Free America do... Lets get free!
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Anonymous
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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
#17747 - 05/20/00 06:13 PM (23 years, 9 months ago) |
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actually they can definitely search your trash with no warrant or probably cause
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Anonymous
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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
#17748 - 05/20/00 06:24 PM (23 years, 9 months ago) |
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n1mr0d : That is bull shit... They still need a search warrent. what ever they find with out one.. = big law suit by "MY" ass. So fuck that.. they better get a better way to get a grow then some bunk shit like that...
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Anonymous
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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
#17749 - 05/20/00 06:26 PM (23 years, 9 months ago) |
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i know this guy who doesn't go on any drug sites, underage porn sites (not that he would), or warez sites all because he told me that everything on the internet is monitored - and that's true. He said go to your local library and then you can look up shit on the net. And don't go around telling people about it - that's extra baggage and lame. And definantly dont discuss how you grew shrooms or offer to mail someone a syringe. Be smart.
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younger now
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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
#17750 - 05/20/00 07:47 PM (23 years, 9 months ago) |
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Actually, I believe once you put your trash out, it becomes 'public property' so I don't believe they need a warrant. Good thing I don't grow shrooms. That would suck.
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Anonymous
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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
#17751 - 05/20/00 08:34 PM (23 years, 9 months ago) |
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BROTHER MY HEART REALLY GOES OUT TO YOU, YOU ARE JUST ANOTHER PRISONER IN THS SENCELESS WAR, JUST TRY TO FIND GOD, IS WHAT GOT ME THROUGH MY BIT BUDDAHISM IS GOOD TO be strong like the mushroom has taught for if we do not care it will not matter. and let your loved ones know thats the only way youll make it through this but in all honestly once you let go of the good ol' days jail aint that bad, RULE 1: BE COOL WITH THE TRUSTIES RULE :2 BE COOL WITH THE GAURDS YES SIR NO SIR....ETC.... WORK AS AN INFORMANT FOR THE INMATES ONCE YOU GET IN GOOD WITH THE GAURDS THEY WILL TELL YOU WHEN SHITS ABOUT TO GO DOWN AND THE INMATES APPRECIATE A TIPSTER JUST BE REEAALLLL COOL ABOUT IT, ACT LIKE YOU DONT LIKE ANY OF THE INMATES TO THE GAURDS SO THEYLL TELL YOU SHIT THEN YOU CAN GET BROWNIE POINTS BY TELLING THE INMATES WHAT THE GAURDS SAY, TRUST ME IT WORKED FOR ME FOR ALONG LONNNNG TIME d;-)
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Anonymous
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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
#17752 - 05/21/00 02:16 AM (23 years, 9 months ago) |
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I know someone who works in an office adjoining a courtroom. He gets to listen in on court cases. He told me that there were five shroom "labs" in his town that had gotten busted, and every single one had ordered from a web company. No matter what people say about keeping records of your order, any package can be tracked, esp if you're the DEA. Be careful.
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Anonymous
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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
#17753 - 05/21/00 02:54 AM (23 years, 9 months ago) |
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well, at least now we know that spore syringes can actually be used to grow mushrooms, and some of the hypothetical things we discuss could actually be carried out if we were in Amsterdam or something.
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AnubisRonin
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Registered: 12/14/99
Posts: 248
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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
#17754 - 05/21/00 07:19 AM (23 years, 9 months ago) |
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Peace Bro...... I have some questions. According To Sacred Mushrooms and the Law it says that the maximum state penalty in Delaware for Sale and or Manufacturing Of Psilocyban Containing Mushrooms is 0-5 years in Jail with a 10k fine. You say you only had 7 grams of wet shrooms and some cakes?? I dont understand why you would face 10-15 years in prison? Also how can it be possible that you didnt tell anyone and yet the police got a search warrant based on probable cause??? If your story is legit then I would definately have the search warrant deal looked at in court cause thats fucking bullshit! also what exactly are growing supplies in the trash??? A syringe and vermiculite?? How is that probable cause??? Your story sounds a little fishy and if your telling the truth then I suggest you get a good lawayer cause they fucked you and didnt even use a condom bro! There are shitloads of people posting pictures of their mushroom crops everyday here and there are little to no busts that I know of regarding those people. Then you come out of no where with this post which is your first post ever and claim you told no one and you dont even post on the shroomery and this is your first attempt ever in growing shrooms and BANG the cops bust down your door and take you away?? Either you have some VERY bad luck or your story is a bunch of horse crap. Im getting REAL fucking tired of the good old US of A telling me what I can and cant do in the privacy of my own home when I am hurting NOBODY!! I cant believe that in some states you will get a longer prison sentence for growing mushrooms than you would if you murdered someone... What is that all about??? Im lucky that at this time I dont have to be concerned with trouble with mushrooms but it makes me so mad that if I wanted to experiment with mushrooms growing in USA that I face heavy duty jail time... FUCKING SUCKS!! Its time for a change!
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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
#17755 - 05/21/00 08:50 PM (23 years, 9 months ago) |
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could you give us a link to the newpaper that would've covered it, or at least tell us what paper it would be?Link ------------------ How I wish that somewhere there existed an island for those who are wise and of good will. -Albert Einstein
-------------------- Wonder had gone away, and he had forgotten that all life is only a set of pictures in the brain, among which there is no difference betwixt those born of real things and those born of inward dreamings, and no cause to value the one above the other. -- H.P. Lovecraft "The Silver Key"
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