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Offline284_27
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Desmanthus illinoensis
    #1772274 - 08/02/03 06:46 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Is there any interest in Desmanthus illinoensis , I see that the plants are blooming . I have never messed with this plant , however I figured that someone would wish to . If there is enough interest I would harvest some seeds as they become mature .


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OfflineCockyMandrill
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Re: Desmanthus illinoensis [Re: 284_27]
    #1772431 - 08/02/03 08:41 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

If you uproot it and take the majority of the roots (leave some and replant if you wanna be nice) and you have yourself a strong source of dmt, somewhere between psychotria viridis and mimosa hostillis in strength. They have big spongy roots that should give a decent yield.

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Re: Desmanthus illinoensis [Re: 284_27]
    #1772643 - 08/02/03 11:18 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

I'm interested.  :crazy2:


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OfflineCockyMandrill
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Re: Desmanthus illinoensis [Re: Jackal]
    #1772782 - 08/02/03 12:46 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

One tip tho, if your going to do an extraction use a aromatic non-polar solvent (like Xylene) because if you don't i hear you get some impurities in the final product that taste like shit.

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Offlinecdchriscd
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Re: Desmanthus illinoensis [Re: CockyMandrill]
    #1773739 - 08/02/03 07:15 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Wouldn't you be able to extract the DMT with naphtha, and have it be relatively pure? I've read some extraction teks and they always used naphtha.

Also, I'm just curious which plant has the highest DMT content. Thanks.

Edited by cdchriscd (08/02/03 07:18 PM)

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Re: Desmanthus illinoensis [Re: cdchriscd]
    #1773854 - 08/02/03 08:08 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

it would be pretty pure but something gets by if you use only naphtha on this plant and it tastes literally like shit when smoked.

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Offlinefelixhigh
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Re: Desmanthus illinoensis [Re: CockyMandrill]
    #1774361 - 08/02/03 10:50 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

i would love a couple pics or so... !

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Re: Desmanthus illinoensis [Re: felixhigh]
    #1775757 - 08/03/03 02:47 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

My seeds did nothing in water alone, I think they need to be scratched to sprourt


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OfflineSev
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Re: Desmanthus illinoensis [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #1776013 - 08/03/03 04:22 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Dammit, I wish I had DMT-containing plants growing native around here. %)


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Re: Desmanthus illinoensis [Re: Sev]
    #1776798 - 08/03/03 09:34 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Isn't it better to have the extract sublingual instead of smoking it?

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Re: Desmanthus illinoensis [Re: Sev]
    #1776918 - 08/03/03 10:22 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Sev,
If you live in New York it will grow outside and can handle your climate and You can't be far from a place that has it naturally!

Desmanthus illinoensis
Illinois Bundle Flower
Alabama
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Indiana
Iowa
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Louisiana
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Mississippi
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New Mexico
North Carolina
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Ohio
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South Carolina South Dakota
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Utah
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Wisconsin
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Texas
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West Virginia
Wisconsin

According to this sight anyway http://www.easywildflowers.com/quality/des.ill.htm.

It grows everywhere here in my neck of the woods :eyemouth:

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Re: Desmanthus illinoensis [Re: TattooedSoul]
    #1776934 - 08/03/03 10:28 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Ok, I answered my own question.

"DMT is Dimethyl Tryptamine = N,N Dimethyl 3-amino-ethyl indole. It is a powerful hallucinogen, the prototype of this class, and chemically related to psiloc(yb)in and more distantly to LSD. Dose: around 60 mg.
Method of ingestion:
Usually smoked (inactive orally at reasonable doses.) Can be combined with monoamine oxidase inhibitors (MAOI) to make it orally active and increase the duration. Could be snuffed or or injected."

From Errowid and usenet


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Offlinepsylo33o
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Re: Desmanthus illinoensis [Re: TattooedSoul]
    #1784185 - 08/06/03 04:20 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

For germanation, you have to pour boiling water on the seeds at first, and let them soak 24 hours in fresh water... It grows very quickly...


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OfflineSev
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Re: Desmanthus illinoensis [Re: TattooedSoul]
    #1786154 - 08/06/03 06:41 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

...Oh, cool. Thanks. For some reason, I was under teh impression that it didn't grow around here. %)


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