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Trillion Dollar Coin Will Fix All Our Woes * 3
    #17533774 - 01/11/13 04:55 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Barack Obama has topped himself by actually proposing to mint a coin that HE says will have a value of one trillion dollars and then using it to pay off the national debt. The coin will have a real metal value of a couple of thousand dollars of platinum but he says that it will have a one trillion dollar value simply because he says it does. Our entire monetary system is one in which everyone plays the game of AGREEMENT that our currency has a certain value despite the fact that it represents NOTHING of value. His trillion dollar coin adds lunacy to his use of smoke and mirrors while he finishes off the American economy.




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Re: Trillion Dollar Coin Will Fix All Our Woes [Re: Shill]
    #17533805 - 01/11/13 05:01 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

i think barack has been watching too much lord of the rings, theres no one coin to rule them all


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Re: Trillion Dollar Coin Will Fix All Our Woes [Re: Soulidarity] * 1
    #17533821 - 01/11/13 05:05 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

LOL what the fuck...


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Re: Trillion Dollar Coin Will Fix All Our Woes [Re: Soulidarity] * 1
    #17533826 - 01/11/13 05:06 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)



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The countdown to the break up of the euro has officially begun.

A great financial crisis is going to erupt in Europe, and it is going to shake the world to the core.

If you were frightened by what happened back in 2008, then you are going to be absolutely horrified by what is coming next.

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Re: Trillion Dollar Coin Will Fix All Our Woes [Re: Shill]
    #17533835 - 01/11/13 05:08 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)


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Re: Trillion Dollar Coin Will Fix All Our Woes [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #17533839 - 01/11/13 05:09 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

It would fix all my woes.


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Re: Trillion Dollar Coin Will Fix All Our Woes [Re: Shill] * 2
    #17533846 - 01/11/13 05:10 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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you can buy one on ebay for $5 and pay off the national debt

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Re: Trillion Dollar Coin Will Fix All Our Woes [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #17533851 - 01/11/13 05:12 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

:loldongs:

If only it worked that way


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The countdown to the break up of the euro has officially begun.

A great financial crisis is going to erupt in Europe, and it is going to shake the world to the core.

If you were frightened by what happened back in 2008, then you are going to be absolutely horrified by what is coming next.

"You throw the sand against the wind
And the wind blows it back again."
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Re: Trillion Dollar Coin Will Fix All Our Woes [Re: Shill]
    #17533863 - 01/11/13 05:13 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

lol, yeah zimbabwe's economy is a joke. but i don't think america would ever get anywhere near the hyper-inflation that zimbabwe experienced.


i think with as many bright minds as america has, they will find some way to steer themselves out of this crisis. even if the economy crashes again (which i more then likely think it will), america is too established and important to fail.


and as an australian it is great because as the economies of the world fall to shit, the australian dollar only increases in value. australia emerged from the 1st round of the GFC in one of the best positions of the world, as well as china.

edit - you have to copy paste the links into a browser
(for some reason these wont link in the pic function)
look at the trends from 2008-2009 onwards. you see the big drop during the crisis, and steady recovery ever since for australia in both the euro and usd
http://www.x-convert.com/images/charts/AUD_USD_5year.png

http://www.x-convert.com/images/charts/AUD_EUR_5year.png


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Re: Trillion Dollar Coin Will Fix All Our Woes [Re: Shill]
    #17533871 - 01/11/13 05:16 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

:strokebeard: So all my paper money will eventually be useless? It's not like we have small banks making their own currency anymore. I don't see how this can be that big of an issue. Even though, people are trying to back their money with gold, how useful would gold actually be if their was a gigantic economic crisis.

I will admit though I have a lot to learn about economics.

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Re: Trillion Dollar Coin Will Fix All Our Woes [Re: koods] * 4
    #17533872 - 01/11/13 05:16 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Barack Obama has topped himself by actually proposing to mint a coin that HE says will have a value of one trillion dollars and then using it to pay off the national debt.




Did you watch the clip that you provided?

No where did the president propose anything like this. HE DID NOT say it would have a value of a trillion dollars. HE DID NOT say it would be used to pay off the debt. HE DID NOT say ANYTHING about a trillion dollar platinum coin.

The reporter said right at the end that the White House had no comment on the story. Do they have to comment on every ridiculous idea?


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Re: Trillion Dollar Coin Will Fix All Our Woes [Re: koods] * 5
    #17533897 - 01/11/13 05:21 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)


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Re: Trillion Dollar Coin Will Fix All Our Woes [Re: Shill]
    #17533904 - 01/11/13 05:21 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Shill said:
:loldongs:

If only it worked that way





as I recall you're one of the people that were so adamant about going back to a

precious metals standard, I recall explaining that the denomination has nothing
to do with an amount by weight, that it's arbitrary


hows that thought working for you now

http://www.businessinsider.com/mint-the-coin-former-mint-director-philip-diehl-explains-why-the-trillion-dollar-coin-law-would-work-2013-1

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Re: Trillion Dollar Coin Will Fix All Our Woes [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #17533913 - 01/11/13 05:26 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Shill said:
:loldongs:

If only it worked that way





as I recall you're one of the people that were so adamant about going back to a

precious metals standard, I recall explaining that the denomination has nothing
to do with an amount by weight, that it's arbitrary


hows that thought working for you now

http://www.businessinsider.com/mint-the-coin-former-mint-director-philip-diehl-explains-why-the-trillion-dollar-coin-law-would-work-2013-1





Actually I'm not, your memory fails you


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The countdown to the break up of the euro has officially begun.

A great financial crisis is going to erupt in Europe, and it is going to shake the world to the core.

If you were frightened by what happened back in 2008, then you are going to be absolutely horrified by what is coming next.

"You throw the sand against the wind
And the wind blows it back again."
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Re: Trillion Dollar Coin Will Fix All Our Woes [Re: koods]
    #17533915 - 01/11/13 05:26 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

koods said:
Quote:

Barack Obama has topped himself by actually proposing to mint a coin that HE says will have a value of one trillion dollars and then using it to pay off the national debt.




Did you watch the clip that you provided?

No where did the president propose anything like this. HE DID NOT say it would have a value of a trillion dollars. HE DID NOT say it would be used to pay off the debt. HE DID NOT say ANYTHING about a trillion dollar platinum coin.

The reporter said right at the end that the White House had no comment on the story. Do they have to comment on every ridiculous idea?





"no comment" doesnt mean obama didnt propose this coin
"no comment" doesnt mean obama didnt set a value
"no comment" doesnt mean obama didnt claim it wouldnt be used to pay on the national debt

"no comment" means "we dont wish to discuss that, we're all about transparency"

what it is to do is delay the raising debt ceiling limit and still allow the spendthrifts in washington their spending
now suppose the debt ceiling isnt raised?

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Re: Trillion Dollar Coin Will Fix All Our Woes [Re: Shill]
    #17533925 - 01/11/13 05:28 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Shill said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Shill said:
:loldongs:

If only it worked that way





as I recall you're one of the people that were so adamant about going back to a

precious metals standard, I recall explaining that the denomination has nothing
to do with an amount by weight, that it's arbitrary


hows that thought working for you now

http://www.businessinsider.com/mint-the-coin-former-mint-director-philip-diehl-explains-why-the-trillion-dollar-coin-law-would-work-2013-1





Actually I'm not, your memory fails you





I keep confusing you and shins... you nead to change your name to "I'm not shins god damn it!"

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Re: Trillion Dollar Coin Will Fix All Our Woes [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #17533946 - 01/11/13 05:33 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

:rofl:


That's an insult :mmmkay:


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The countdown to the break up of the euro has officially begun.

A great financial crisis is going to erupt in Europe, and it is going to shake the world to the core.

If you were frightened by what happened back in 2008, then you are going to be absolutely horrified by what is coming next.

"You throw the sand against the wind
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Re: Trillion Dollar Coin Will Fix All Our Woes [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #17533988 - 01/11/13 05:40 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

koods said:
Quote:

Barack Obama has topped himself by actually proposing to mint a coin that HE says will have a value of one trillion dollars and then using it to pay off the national debt.




Did you watch the clip that you provided?

No where did the president propose anything like this. HE DID NOT say it would have a value of a trillion dollars. HE DID NOT say it would be used to pay off the debt. HE DID NOT say ANYTHING about a trillion dollar platinum coin.

The reporter said right at the end that the White House had no comment on the story. Do they have to comment on every ridiculous idea?





"no comment" doesnt mean obama didnt propose this coin
"no comment" doesnt mean obama didnt set a value
"no comment" doesnt mean obama didnt claim it wouldnt be used to pay on the national debt

"no comment" means "we dont wish to discuss that, we're all about transparency"

what it is to do is delay the raising debt ceiling limit and still allow the spendthrifts in washington their spending
now suppose the debt ceiling isnt raised?




No comment means we don't want to discuss that. You can debate the reason.

One thing not up for debate is that the first sentence in OPs post is not supported by any facts. Nobody has reported that this is Obama's idea. It is nothing more than unsolicited advice from some economists and apparently one congressman, although all he said was that "it would be legal." I have no idea if he said it would be a good idea.


My suggestion: Pris, you would be more attractive if you wore women's clothes.

OP next thread: Did you hear that Pris said he is going to start wearing women's clothes?


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Re: Trillion Dollar Coin Will Fix All Our Woes [Re: koods] * 1
    #17534109 - 01/11/13 06:03 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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I keep confusing you and shins... you nead to change your name to "I'm not shins god damn it!"




To clear up any confusion, I suggest Shill should change his name to "GOP Shill"

Breaking News: Shill is proposing HE should change his name to "GOP Shill"


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Re: Trillion Dollar Coin Will Fix All Our Woes [Re: koods]
    #17534121 - 01/11/13 06:04 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

http://www.wired.com/business/2013/01/trillion-dollar-coin-inventor/

Sounds legal I guess, but it's sad that it has gotten to things like circumventing Congresses power to vote to raise the debt ceiling.


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