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Marukai
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How to Balance Karma
#17519751 - 01/08/13 09:36 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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What do you all think about giving money to pan handlers every once in a while as a means to balance bad deeds that you did in the past? What about giving things to the Salvation Army or Goodwill? How does one balance Karma, so that it doesn't bite you in the ass later on in life?
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Re: How to Balance Karma [Re: Marukai]
#17519763 - 01/08/13 09:38 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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Marukai said: What do you all think about giving money to pan handlers every once in a while as a means to balance bad deeds that you did in the past?
I think its idiotic and preposterous. Karma makes no sense on any level.
How about giving money to a bum because its a nice thing to do and makes you feel good? Seems to make a lot more sense then expecting some cosmic reward.
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What about giving things to the Salvation Army
I stopped giving to the salvation army this year. I read up on them and they seem to have some questionable prosyletizing activities. I don't give money to witch doctors or faith healers, and I won't give to a charity like that either.
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Re: How to Balance Karma [Re: Marukai]
#17519767 - 01/08/13 09:40 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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Marukai said: What do you all think about giving money to pan handlers every once in a while as a means to balance bad deeds that you did in the past? What about giving things to the Salvation Army or Goodwill? How does one balance Karma, so that it doesn't bite you in the ass later on in life?
You're kidding right?
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Re: How to Balance Karma [Re: Icelander]
#17519862 - 01/08/13 10:04 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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Marukai said: What do you all think about giving money to pan handlers every once in a while as a means to balance bad deeds that you did in the past? What about giving things to the Salvation Army or Goodwill? How does one balance Karma, so that it doesn't bite you in the ass later on in life?
You're kidding right?
No I really want to get some philosophical insights into this... Everyone seems to believe in Karma, so why shouldn't it be something to believe in?
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Re: How to Balance Karma [Re: Marukai]
#17520012 - 01/08/13 10:47 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think giving what you have to spare to share with those who are in need is one of the best things a person can do. I don't know about karma and all. Karma has a few different definitions. To me it is just more the concept of how fate unfolds. It's not a direct positive/negative thing I don't think. I think the best thing one can do for their karma is to truly follow their heart. And when I say that, I don't mean the ego. I think the best way to tap into your heart and learning to view it apart from the ego is through meditation.
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Re: How to Balance Karma [Re: Marukai]
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Re: How to Balance Karma [Re: Marukai]
#17520407 - 01/09/13 01:03 AM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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i always let a full bus in, to cancel out the 50 cars i cut off
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Re: How to Balance Karma [Re: quinn]
#17520432 - 01/09/13 01:18 AM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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Good thinking. It is pretty easy to trick the most powerful and intelligent Being in the universe.
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no deceit, just turning the cosimic balance to my favour
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Re: How to Balance Karma [Re: Marukai]
#17520898 - 01/09/13 06:42 AM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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1. Enduring Your Karma
Enduring karma means just letting our negative karma come back to us naturally and dealing with the consequences. Most people balance their karma this way, and it often involves a certain amount of struggle or hardship. For example, sometimes when negative karma returns to people, it can make them feel tired or ill. Or they may find themselves frequently arguing with friends or relatives. Karma can also return to people by way of a natural disaster, such as a fire, a hurricane, or a flood. Natural disasters often affect large groups of people who must work through their karma together.
2. Balancing Karma Through Service to Life
Service to life is a more dynamic method of balancing karma. Life can be served through family relationships, jobs and in harmonious interactions. In fact, we can view everyone who comes into our life as an opportunity to balance karma—from the stranger we meet on the bus to our grocery store clerk to the surgeon performing our operation. It is also good to look for ways to serve life that will earn additional good karma to offset negative karma. We can reach out to others and go the extra mile with them. Or we could care for a chronically ill friend, volunteer as a fire fighter or a hospice worker, mow an elderly neighbor’s lawn, spend Saturdays working at a shelter for the homeless, clean up littered highways or plant trees in deforested areas. There are myriad examples of ways we can earn good karma in service to the life that surrounds us. And the masters say that this good karma of serving helps to balance any negative karma we may have made.
3. Transmuting Karma with the Violet Flame
The violet flame is a special gift from the ascended masters. It is the fastest way to balance karma. To transmute means “to change energy to a higher form.” Invoking this high-frequency spiritual energy can literally dissolve negative karmic patterns and help you gain self-mastery. When your are sorry for what you have done and give violet flame decrees, you are saturated with God’s forgiveness. You can also use the violet flame to erase mistakes you’ve made in the past that you don’t remember. The violet flame can even transmute negative karma from past lives! The violet flame may not be able to relieve all karma, because some of it may need to be experienced for the sake of learning lessons and growing spiritually. So even with the diligent use of the violet flame, bigger or smaller chunks of returning negative karma may need to be experienced. The hopeful news is that this may take the form of what is called mitigated or “token” karma. Mitigation occurs when the full impact of karma can be lessened because of merit gained through service to life, dedication to a spiritual path or grace that is extended to the soul. So one may receive token karma to balance what would otherwise have been a more severe negative return. http://tsl.org/2009/08/three-ways-to-balance-negative-karma/
Edited by FishOilTheKid (01/09/13 06:43 AM)
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1. Enduring Your Karma
Enduring karma means just letting our negative karma come back to us naturally and dealing with the consequences. Most people balance their karma this way, and it often involves a certain amount of struggle or hardship. For example, sometimes when negative karma returns to people, it can make them feel tired or ill. Or they may find themselves frequently arguing with friends or relatives. Karma can also return to people by way of a natural disaster, such as a fire, a hurricane, or a flood. Natural disasters often affect large groups of people who must work through their karma together.
2. Balancing Karma Through Service to Life
Service to life is a more dynamic method of balancing karma. Life can be served through family relationships, jobs and in harmonious interactions. In fact, we can view everyone who comes into our life as an opportunity to balance karma—from the stranger we meet on the bus to our grocery store clerk to the surgeon performing our operation. It is also good to look for ways to serve life that will earn additional good karma to offset negative karma. We can reach out to others and go the extra mile with them. Or we could care for a chronically ill friend, volunteer as a fire fighter or a hospice worker, mow an elderly neighbor’s lawn, spend Saturdays working at a shelter for the homeless, clean up littered highways or plant trees in deforested areas. There are myriad examples of ways we can earn good karma in service to the life that surrounds us. And the masters say that this good karma of serving helps to balance any negative karma we may have made.
3. Transmuting Karma with the Violet Flame
The violet flame is a special gift from the ascended masters. It is the fastest way to balance karma. To transmute means “to change energy to a higher form.” Invoking this high-frequency spiritual energy can literally dissolve negative karmic patterns and help you gain self-mastery. When your are sorry for what you have done and give violet flame decrees, you are saturated with God’s forgiveness. You can also use the violet flame to erase mistakes you’ve made in the past that you don’t remember. The violet flame can even transmute negative karma from past lives! The violet flame may not be able to relieve all karma, because some of it may need to be experienced for the sake of learning lessons and growing spiritually. So even with the diligent use of the violet flame, bigger or smaller chunks of returning negative karma may need to be experienced. The hopeful news is that this may take the form of what is called mitigated or “token” karma. Mitigation occurs when the full impact of karma can be lessened because of merit gained through service to life, dedication to a spiritual path or grace that is extended to the soul. So one may receive token karma to balance what would otherwise have been a more severe negative return. http://tsl.org/2009/08/three-ways-to-balance-negative-karma/
So can we conclude that giving to pan handlers and giving thing to places like Salvation Army,Local Church,and Goodwill will boost good Karma?
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Re: How to Balance Karma [Re: Marukai]
#17521453 - 01/09/13 09:48 AM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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One small donation cancels one lie.
Five medium donations cancels one betrayal.
Ten large donations cancels an assasult.
It is all very mathematical.
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Kindness brings it's own rewards, but isn't it kinda greedy really to commit acts of kindness in return for spiritual favors? Isn't that just spiritual materialism?
I was pondering this the other day- how service can actually be a selfish act when done with the idea of gain.
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No one acts without the thought of some sort of personal gain.
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maybe the trick is not to act then?
And maybe you will gain from that
Oh shit, I think my brain is going to implode...
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There is no cosmic 'Accounts Receivable' do don't worry about it.
Karma cannot truly be defined or measured. It is a weak and superstitious attempt to explain random happenings.
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I think karma exists but not in the way most people think. You don't carry karma around with you as some sort of personal score card. But a kind action will encourage more kind actions in the world which we will all ultimately benefit from. People being nasty to each other will breed nastiness . That's karma to me.
Humanity has karma. Individuals don't.
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OrgoneConclusion said: There is no cosmic 'Accounts Receivable' do don't worry about it.
Karma cannot truly be defined or measured. It is a weak and superstitious attempt to explain random happenings.
there are many different definitions of karma. I think many in the west have adopted materialistic ideas of it because those are the ones we can understand the most easily.
My understanding of it is just how events unfold. Obviously your actions create a chain of events. That is karma IMO. Pondering the chain of events that your actions could create can sometimes be a useful exercise I think as long as you don't get your ego caught up in it.
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Re: How to Balance Karma [Re: PocketLady]
#17521547 - 01/09/13 10:09 AM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think karma exists but not in the way most people think.
Hence my comment that we cannot even agree on a definition. It is like soul or God - everyone has their own notion.
I did a thread years ago on how much money, time and aggravation it cost me to help two different stranded motorists. Never again. No kindness was returned. I could give many, many examples.
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but perhaps they passed on the kindness to someone else and not you?
You are correct, these things are difficult to measure. Especially when we can't agree on a definition.
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