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Xlea321
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Saddams sons killed in "gun-battle"?
#1738540 - 07/22/03 02:39 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Anyone got a few doubts about the idea of Saddams sons being killed in a "gun-battle"? The last I heard Uday was crippled and needed a wheelchair to get around. Are we talking "gun-battle" or execution?
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Re: Saddams sons killed in "gun-battle"? [Re: Xlea321]
#1738563 - 07/22/03 02:47 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Poor, poor Uday.
Anyway, I'm not believing initial reports of anything.
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Re: Saddams sons killed in "gun-battle"? [Re: wingnutx]
#1738603 - 07/22/03 03:01 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah,I'm not believing anything yet.
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Re: Saddams sons killed in "gun-battle"? [Re: monoamine]
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Re: Saddams sons killed in "gun-battle"? [Re: Xlea321]
#1738627 - 07/22/03 03:09 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Does it really matter whether if it was a gun battle or execution? Anyway they were both pieces of shit one was a professional torturer the other was a serial rapist. Its sad to see two people killed but if I had to see two peeps killed these are the ones I would want to see dead.
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Re: Saddams sons killed in "gun-battle"? [Re: Meat_Log_Smurf]
#1738637 - 07/22/03 03:13 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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I may be missing something...but how....exactly is it sad?!
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Re: Saddams sons killed in "gun-battle"? [Re: wingnutx]
#1738646 - 07/22/03 03:16 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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CENTCOM just made it official.
happy, happy, Joy, Joy. (if it's true)
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Re: Saddams sons killed in "gun-battle"? [Re: Meat_Log_Smurf]
#1738666 - 07/22/03 03:26 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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professional torturer the other was a serial rapist.
Im not singling you out personally, but... Its interesting how we perceive things in america. Do we know this for fact, or did we hear this from the media?
He's declared evil just because he was Saddams son!
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Re: Saddams sons killed in "gun-battle"? [Re: Azmodeus]
#1738675 - 07/22/03 03:29 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Qusay's 14 year old son may also be dead, did he deserve that? They apparently called in a helicopter strike on the house before entering, sounds to me like they didn't really intend to capture anyone.
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Re: Saddams sons killed in "gun-battle"? [Re: Edame]
#1738707 - 07/22/03 03:41 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes, it WAS a gun battle. They're saying it was a 6-hour gun battle. SIX FUCKING HOURS. Those guys were regular terminators or something... they held off all those troops for 6 hours. Anyway, I am not convinced. Why were they together? Why did they only have one bodyguard each? Why were they in Mosul, a Kurdish area? This is going to smell fishy until they can produce bodies. And it took 6 hours? Wow--those four guys were some bad asses!!!!
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Re: Saddams sons killed in "gun-battle"? [Re: angryshroom]
#1738716 - 07/22/03 03:43 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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did we hear this from the media?
Info available on Human Rights Watch website. Amnesty Internetional, too.
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Re: Saddams sons killed in "gun-battle"? [Re: Edame]
#1738717 - 07/22/03 03:44 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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I guess this means it's unlikely Saddam will be taken alive. With what he's got on Rumsfield, Reagan and Bush Snr why would they take the chance of him ever testifying.
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Re: Saddams sons killed in "gun-battle"? [Re: angryshroom]
#1738749 - 07/22/03 03:57 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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actually these are facts that were reported several years back. Hundreds of people have claimed this after claiming and getting political asylum in various countries. Alot of Iraqiswere too scared to say such claims during the process of being granted PA, and waited till after it was granted to tell their stories. Do a search on Udah and Qusay and torture and see how many websites that deal in testimonies of people that had run ins with them. Anyone whos favorite torture device is an Iron Maiden is a sick fuck in my book. But thats just me. Theres over 6000 posts dealing with just Uday's gift of torture so figure it out for yourself. I'm not saying everyone he ran into he killed, but he evidently had a thing with torturing people.
No profile of Uday Hussein, the psychotic elder son of Iraq's deposed dictator, is complete without a mention of his sadistic reign as Iraq's sports czar. In his capacity as head of Iraq's Olympic committee and also of its soccer federation, he is known to have ordered the torture of athletes who performed below his expectations.
A bad day on the field for a player on the national soccer squad could result in savage retribution: Players had their feet scalded and toenails ripped off for failing to win tournaments. Allegations of torture had even resulted in investigations by international sports governing bodies, most notably soccer's FIFA, but these had failed to produce conclusive evidence ? hardly surprising, since no player would dare admit to suffering such abuse, for fear of even worse.
On Saturday, however, TIME found what may be the first tangible evidence pointing to torture in Uday's own backyard, the administrative compound of the Iraqi national Olympic committee in central Baghdad. Hidden in a pile of dead leaves, not 20 yards from the building housing the Iraqi Football Association, was that must-have appliance of every medieval dungeon: an iron maiden.
Around 7 feet tall, three feet across and deep enough to house a grown man, the sarcophagus-shaped device is essentially a large, metal closet with long spikes on the inside door that closes to impale its victim. Its name derives from its mummy shape and the beatific woman's face depicted on its headpiece. The one found in Baghdad was clearly worn from use, its nails having lost some of their sharpness. It lay on its side within view of Uday's first-floor offices in the soccer association. Ironically, the torture device was brought to TIME's attention by a group of looters who had been stripping the compound of anything of value. They had left behind the iron maiden, believing it to be worthless.
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Re: Saddams sons killed in "gun-battle"? [Re: Meat_Log_Smurf]
#1738760 - 07/22/03 04:02 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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So why not just say we shot him in his wheelchair? Why come up with all the shit about 4 people putting up a "gun-battle"? And lets face it, if you want to learn about torture you could go straight to the acknowledged masters - the Reagan funded CIA trained contras.
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Re: Saddams sons killed in "gun-battle"? [Re: Xlea321]
#1738771 - 07/22/03 04:06 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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You don't think 4 people in a fortified position can put up a decent fight?
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Re: Saddams sons killed in "gun-battle"? [Re: Xlea321]
#1738774 - 07/22/03 04:07 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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My point is it makes for a better story. Believe me I'm glad hes dead and hope he suffered. Alex if you honestly think he was a good guy that you would like to pal around with then your as sick as him.
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Re: Saddams sons killed in "gun-battle"? [Re: Meat_Log_Smurf]
#1738783 - 07/22/03 04:10 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Alex if you honestly think he was a good guy that you would like to pal around with then your as sick as him.
wtf?
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Re: Saddams sons killed in "gun-battle"? [Re: Meat_Log_Smurf]
#1738784 - 07/22/03 04:10 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have a spot when I shoot paintballs that I can take out at least 4 or 5 people before I get hit. More than likely they didnt want to use grenades due to the fact they wanted a quick ID of who they killed.
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Re: Saddams sons killed in "gun-battle"? [Re: Meat_Log_Smurf]
#1738786 - 07/22/03 04:10 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Alex if you honestly think he was a good guy that you would like to pal around with then your as sick as him.
I don't think anyone here is saying that either of them is a good guy. It's just that, as with Waco, the official story seems a little suspicious.
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Re: Saddams sons killed in "gun-battle"? [Re: Meat_Log_Smurf]
#1738791 - 07/22/03 04:12 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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These 4 people in a fortified position put up a fight for 6 FUCKING HOURS!!!! They put up more than a gun-battle Alex... they put up the fight of their lives.
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