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Marijuana Helps Prevent Lung Cancer: Now It's Med-School Material
    #17139275 - 10/31/12 09:02 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

edia Ignored Expert's Shocking Findings That Marijuana Helps Prevent Lung Cancer: Now It's Med-School Material
UCLA professor Donald Tashkin will share his research discoveries to medical students this week.
October 24, 2012  | 





You'd think it would have been very big news in the spring of 2005 when Donald Tashkin, a professor of pulmonology at UCLA's David Geffin School of Medicine, revealed at a conference that components of marijuana smoke, although they damage cells in respiratory tissue, somehow prevent them from becoming malignant. But headlines announcing "Pot Doesn't Cause Cancer" did not ensue.

Tashkin will review his findings and discuss current research this Thursday in Santa Monica, California as part of a course for doctors accredited by the University of California San Francisco. (It is open to the public; pre-registration is $95.) 

Tashkin has special credibility. He was the lead investigator on studies dating back to the 1970s that identified the compounds in marijuana smoke that are toxic. It was Tashkin who published photomicrographs showing that marijuana smoke damages cells lining the upper airways. It was the Tashkin lab reporting that benzpyrene -- a component of tobacco smoke that plays a role in most lung cancers -- is especially prevalent in marijuana smoke. It was Tashkin's data documenting that marijuana smokers are more likely than non-smokers to cough, wheeze and produce sputum.

The National Institute on Drug Abuse supported Tashkin's marijuana-related research over the decades and gave him a grant to conduct a large, population-based, case-controlled study that would prove definitively that heavy, long-term marijuana use increases the risk of lung and upper-airways cancers. What Tashkin and his colleagues found, however, disproved their hypothesis.

Tashkin's team interviewed 1,212 cancer patients from the Los Angeles County Cancer Surveillance program, matched for age, gender, and neighborhood with 1,040 cancer-free controls. Marijuana use was measured in "joint years" (number of years smoked times number of joints per day). It turned out that increased marijuana use did not result in higher rates of lung and pharyngeal cancer (whereas tobacco smokers were at greater risk the more they smoked). Tobacco smokers who also smoked marijuana were at slightly lower risk of getting lung cancer than tobacco-only smokers.

The Tashkin scoop was still there for the taking in April 2009 when Tashkin reviewed his findings at a conference at Asilomar organized by "Patients Out of Time." Investigators from New Zealand had recently gotten widespread media attention for a study contradicting Tashkin's results. "Heavy cannabis users may be at greater risk of chronic lung disease --including cancer-- compared to tobacco smokers," is how BBC News summed up the New Zealanders' findings. The very small size of the study --79 smokers took part, 21 of whom smoked cannabis only-- was not held against the authors. As conveyed in the corporate media, the New Zealand study represented the latest word on this important subject.

Tashkin criticized the New Zealanders' methodology in his talk at Asilomar: "There's some cognitive dissonance associated with the interpretation of their findings. I think this has to do with the belief model among the investigators and --I wish they were here to defend themselves -- the integrity of the investigators... They actually published another paper in which they mimicked the design that we used for looking at lung function."

Tashkin, who is 70ish and wears wire-rimmed spectacles, spoke from the stage of an airy redwood chapel designed by Julia Morgan: "For tobacco they found what you'd expect: a higher risk for lung cancer and a clear dose-response relationship. A 24-fold increase in the people who smoked the most... What about marijuana? If they smoked a small or moderate amount there was no increased risk, in fact slightly less than one. But if they were in the upper third of the group, then their risk was six-fold... A rather surprising finding, and one has to be cautious about interpreting the results because of the very small number of cases (14) and controls (4)."




Tashkin said the New Zealanders employed "statistical sleight of hand." He deemed it "completely implausible that smokers of only 365 joints of marijuana have a risk for developing lung cancer similar to that of smokers of 7,000 tobacco cigarettes... Their small sample size led to vastly inflated estimates... They had said 'it's ideal to do the study in New Zealand because we have a much higher prevalence of marijuana smoking.' But 88 percent of their controls had never smoked marijuana, whereas 36% of our controls (in Los Angeles) had never smoked marijuana. Why did so few of the controls smoke marijuana? Something fishy about that!"

Those are strong words for a UCLA School of Medicine professor.

As to the highly promising implication of his own study -- that something in marijuana stops damaged cells from becoming malignant -- Tashkin noted that an anti-proliferative effect of THC has been observed in cell-culture systems and animal models of brain, breast, prostate, and lung cancer. THC has been shown to promote known apoptosis (damaged cells die instead of reproducing) and to counter angiogenesis (the process by which blood vessels are formed -- a requirement of tumor growth). Other antioxidants in cannabis may also be involved in countering malignancy, Tashkin said.

Much of Tashkin's talk at Asilomar was devoted to chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, another condition prevalent among tobacco smokers. Chronic bronchitis and emphysema are two forms of COPD, which is the fourth leading cause of death in the United States. Air pollution and tobacco smoke are known culprits. Inhaled pathogens cause an inflammatory response, resulting in diminished lung function. COPD patients have increasing difficulty clearing the airways as they get older.

Tashkin and colleagues at UCLA conducted a major study in which they measured lung function of various cohorts over eight years and found that tobacco-only smokers had an accelerated rate of decline, but marijuana smokers -- even if they smoked tobacco as well -- experienced the same rate of decline as non-smokers. "The more tobacco smoked, the greater the rate of decline," said Tashkin. "In contrast, no matter how much marijuana was smoked, the rate of decline was similar to normal." Tashkin concluded that his and other studies "do not support the concept that regular smoking of marijuana leads to COPD."

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Note: The half-day series of talks, dubbed "MMJ13001B" by UCSF, is newsworthy in itself, as medical schools typically do not include cannabis in the curriculum. ("MMJ13001A" will be offered in San Francisco Oct. 24.)

The media has never taken note of the reality that there is a spectrum of expertise among doctors who approve marijuana use by patients. They have portrayed "potdocs" as quick-buck artists practicing sub-standard medicine, ignoring the serious, research-minded clinicians who understand why compounds in the plant alleviate a wide range of symptoms.

UC San Diego psychiatrist Igor Grant, director of the Center for Medicinal Cannabis Research, recently published a paper in the Open Neurology Journal concluding "it is not accurate that cannabis has no medical value, or that information on safety is lacking, and calling for its rescheduling by the federal government.

The CME course was organized by the Canadian Consortium for the Investigation of the Cannabinoids with support from the Society of Cannabis Clinicians, a California-based group. It provides 2.75 AMA PRA Category 1 Credit(s)(tm). Pre-registration is at www.ccic.net/USACME.


http://www.alternet.org/drugs/media-ignored-experts-shocking-findings-marijuana-helps-prevent-lung-cancer-now-its-med-school

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Re: Marijuana Helps Prevent Lung Cancer: Now It's Med-School Material [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #17139879 - 10/31/12 11:12 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

this is awesome !

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Re: Marijuana Helps Prevent Lung Cancer: Now It's Med-School Material [Re: Gotlib]
    #17139999 - 10/31/12 11:43 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I don't have time to read this, but I have to ask anyway. How does inhaling burnt plant matter prevent lung cancer? :crazy:

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Re: Marijuana Helps Prevent Lung Cancer: Now It's Med-School Material [Re: Nullface]
    #17140116 - 11/01/12 12:39 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't have time to read this, but I have to ask anyway. How does inhaling burnt plant matter prevent lung cancer? :crazy:





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As to the highly promising implication of his own study -- that something in marijuana stops damaged cells from becoming malignant -- Tashkin noted that an anti-proliferative effect of THC has been observed in cell-culture systems and animal models of brain, breast, prostate, and lung cancer. THC has been shown to promote known apoptosis (damaged cells die instead of reproducing) and to counter angiogenesis (the process by which blood vessels are formed -- a requirement of tumor growth). Other antioxidants in cannabis may also be involved in countering malignancy, Tashkin said.





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Re: Marijuana Helps Prevent Lung Cancer: Now It's Med-School Material [Re: Ojom]
    #17140387 - 11/01/12 03:12 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Of course the mainstream media will never report this....


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Re: Marijuana Helps Prevent Lung Cancer: Now It's Med-School Material [Re: schwarg]
    #17140911 - 11/01/12 07:54 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

"There's some cognitive dissonance associated with the interpretation of their findings. I think this has to do with the belief model among the investigators and --I wish they were here to defend themselves -- the integrity of the investigators... They actually published another paper in which they mimicked the design that we used for looking at lung function." :lolsy:

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Re: Marijuana Helps Prevent Lung Cancer: Now It's Med-School Material [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #17141089 - 11/01/12 08:33 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

why would it say "pot prevents cancer"? Think about it, pot CANDY uses thc to prevent malignant tissue. But enough tar will damage respiratory tissues and cause cancer, no matter how many cancer preventing agents are in the tar. If a person rolls a joint is smoking then puts the joint out and sparks another one and chain smokes weed I'm pretty sure he has a fantastic chance of getting cancer.


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Re: Marijuana Helps Prevent Lung Cancer: Now It's Med-School Material [Re: imachavel] * 1
    #17141163 - 11/01/12 08:56 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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why would it say "pot prevents cancer"? Think about it, pot CANDY uses thc to prevent malignant tissue. But enough tar will damage respiratory tissues and cause cancer, no matter how many cancer preventing agents are in the tar. If a person rolls a joint is smoking then puts the joint out and sparks another one and chain smokes weed I'm pretty sure he has a fantastic chance of getting cancer.



I am pretty sure you are wrong. There has never been a documented case of a marijuana only smoker developing smoking related types of lung cancer (excluding asbestos specific cancers and mj smokers with second hand tobacco smoke exposure and such).  :bonghit:


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Re: Marijuana Helps Prevent Lung Cancer: Now It's Med-School Material [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #17141307 - 11/01/12 09:34 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Marijuana has anti inflammatory effects on the lungs so although your inhaling burning plant material you are in fact not doin that great of harm

There is harm but not much especially compared to tobacco and only if smoke a lot

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Re: Marijuana Helps Prevent Lung Cancer: Now It's Med-School Material [Re: InTiMiDaToRdInO]
    #17141389 - 11/01/12 09:51 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Interesting study. Lets tell this to Romney


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Re: Marijuana Helps Prevent Lung Cancer: Now It's Med-School Material [Re: Patlal]
    #17142399 - 11/01/12 01:08 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Cancer is one thing. But it is unrealistic to believe that smoking causes no harm.

Inhaled particulate matter and deposited tar causes a decrease in the surface tension of the lung's alveoli.  This causes them to collapse permanently and die.  They don't grow bak after around age 20.  You have a bajillion of them, but collapse enough and you'll decrease your lung function.

Vaporizers for the win.


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Re: Marijuana Helps Prevent Lung Cancer: Now It's Med-School Material [Re: Godluck]
    #17142705 - 11/01/12 02:09 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Such a propaganda piece.  They started with 1,200 people with cancer, found another 1,000 people of similar age, from the same neighborhood, and of equal gender.

Controlled for pretty much nothing, and didn't find any dose-repsonse relationship for MJ preventative properties, as evidenced by this gem in the discussion

"Because consistent dose-response associations were not observed for ever-users of marijuana, it seems plausible that the inverse associations were due to chance or bias."

Yet the mainstream pro-pot groups have been having a field day with this study since 2006 when it was published.


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