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Difference in 25C-NBOMe vs. 25C-NBOMe HCl potency
    #16879928 - 09/20/12 12:39 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Alright so basicly I'm thinking about buying 50-100 mg's of 25C-NBOMe HCL. And I am wondering if there is a difference between 25C-NBOMe and 25C-NBOMe HCl? Is it the same? Is there a difference in potency? If so, how much is it?

All answers are greatly appreciated.

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Re: Difference in 25C-NBOMe vs. 25C-NBOMe HCl potency [Re: zdk211]
    #16879946 - 09/20/12 12:42 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Difference in 25C-NBOMe vs. 25C-NBOMe HCl potency [Re: Gotlib]
    #16880079 - 09/20/12 01:07 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

HCI is just the salt form. Same chemical, different form. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

And prices are going to vary ridiculously. Google will give the same or better answers than asking us.

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Re: Difference in 25C-NBOMe vs. 25C-NBOMe HCl potency [Re: zdk211]
    #16880305 - 09/20/12 01:49 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I recommend a nanogram scale for this stuff. Had to "eyeball" doses personally. This is impossible however. Too much can be real lousy, whereas too low a dose can be miserably unsatisfying.


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Re: Difference in 25C-NBOMe vs. 25C-NBOMe HCl potency [Re: ursamajor]
    #16880633 - 09/20/12 02:48 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

If I was you, I wouldn't mix the HCL in a solution. For me anyway, I noticed some potency loss.


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Re: Difference in 25C-NBOMe vs. 25C-NBOMe HCl potency [Re: Content]
    #16880783 - 09/20/12 03:09 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Yes the real problem is the dosing. I'm gonna need a 0.0001g lab scale in order to do the dosing correct. So I was hoping the Hcl form was less potent so I wouldn't need a scale like that.

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Re: Difference in 25C-NBOMe vs. 25C-NBOMe HCl potency [Re: zdk211]
    #16880790 - 09/20/12 03:10 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Dissolve an actually measurable amount of your compound into a known volume of liquid, then you can calculate the microgram dosage per mL of solution.


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Re: Difference in 25C-NBOMe vs. 25C-NBOMe HCl potency [Re: Dyno]
    #16880940 - 09/20/12 03:37 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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Dissolve an actually measurable amount of your compound into a known volume of liquid, then you can calculate the microgram dosage per mL of solution.



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Re: Difference in 25C-NBOMe vs. 25C-NBOMe HCl potency [Re: eMpire420]
    #16885002 - 09/21/12 06:33 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Found this:
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25ml of alcohol or water = 2mg/ml

Get yourself a 1ml syringe and take the needle off and dose accordingly.

Yeah, exactly what I was thinking of doing.

People saying it's not soluble in water... are you sure? Lot of people on BL etc saying it is, maybe some heat necessary to speed it up.

Will probably just snort the powder though and start really small.




Then add the liqud to some blotters.

Will this do?

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Re: Difference in 25C-NBOMe vs. 25C-NBOMe HCl potency [Re: zdk211]
    #16886405 - 09/21/12 12:16 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

some may dissolve into warm water but it recrystallizes on the sides as it cools


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