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OfflineRonPaul 2012
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What do I need for DMT?
    #16674775 - 08/10/12 01:52 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Hey guys, I'm new here. I'm very spiritual and I've never done drugs, but always've done extensive research into DMT trips and all sorts of other spiritual things. I've also got a nice background in chemistry and wouldn't mind extracting for myself my own DMT :laugh: what do I need? I've read guides, got the feel of everything, but there's been no 'shopping list' of items I've seen yet. So, please lemme know what all it is that I need.

Thanks! :laugh:

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Re: What do I need for DMT? [Re: RonPaul 2012]
    #16674811 - 08/10/12 02:10 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

If what you say is true and that you have a "nice background", it seems to me you're either a :cop:, :trollcop: or a liar.

No drug usage, extensive research, read the guides but yet you don't even have a clue?

Hell, I've never done any kind of extraction or DMT itself but you've got a long way to go if you can't use google or a search engine.

Id say look at the bottom of this page at the similar threads and click a couple.


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Re: What do I need for DMT? [Re: runningfox2002]
    #16674843 - 08/10/12 02:33 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

:whathesaid:


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masspan said:
in your 2nd pic that mushroom is actively standing on its head for sure

nearhorn said:
what does that mean? its active?

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Re: What do I need for DMT? [Re: nixon]
    #16674869 - 08/10/12 02:48 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

imagine breaking through for your very first drug experience lol


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Re: What do I need for DMT? [Re: kakashi68]
    #16674902 - 08/10/12 03:10 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

If that was a cop what could they do with the info provided? Arrest the
person who provided the information? I don't get it. They'd have to go
through a lot of trouble to track him/her down, and besides, it isn't
illegal to make information accessible to someone. It's readily available
all over the internet.

The OP does seem a bit sketchy though, especially with that username. A
background in chemistry doesn't mean shit for a simple extraction and wtf..
you've read guides and did research, but you don't know what you need? It
really depends on what extraction tek you're using.


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Re: What do I need for DMT? [Re: Bawks]
    #16674909 - 08/10/12 03:14 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

LMFAO i just noticed the username


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masspan said:
in your 2nd pic that mushroom is actively standing on its head for sure

nearhorn said:
what does that mean? its active?

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Re: What do I need for DMT? [Re: nixon]
    #16675374 - 08/10/12 08:05 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

You need to go cut down the biggest tree you can, any tree works. Then shave all the "bark" off it. That should be a good start


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Re: What do I need for DMT? [Re: FruitOfLife]
    #16675892 - 08/10/12 11:01 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

[removed post]

Edited by Marflix (09/19/21 08:10 AM)

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Re: What do I need for DMT? [Re: Marflix]
    #16676172 - 08/10/12 12:01 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Are y'all stupid? Lol.. There are plenty of fucking guides out there and some require some shit, other require different things. It gets a little confusing as to what the fuck you need..

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Re: What do I need for DMT? [Re: runningfox2002]
    #16676181 - 08/10/12 12:03 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

And please name for me a cop with a background in Chemistry... I'm a physicist lol.

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Re: What do I need for DMT? [Re: RonPaul 2012]
    #16676197 - 08/10/12 12:07 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

If you are what you say you are you should understand all of what is going on in the process.  It really isn't that complicated.

You seem to be a liar for no one with a chemistry background, or physics background for that matter would be so clueless as to not understand what each bit of those list was responsible of doing.

You ask us if WE are stupid, when you are the one coming off as such.

Even with a highschool chemistry level of knowledge you would probably understand most of what was going on.


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Re: What do I need for DMT? [Re: POWAtrippin]
    #16676259 - 08/10/12 12:19 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Actually people are coming off as stupid paranoid chicken littles; there's no reason to believe the OP is a cop.

Anyways OP, consider a few basic things:

1. the overview of an A/B extraction (ONLY FUCKING USE A/B EXTRACTIONS, THEY'RE ACTUALLY RELIABLE, I NOW KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE):

-acid extraction of the DMT from the bark material. USE MIMOSA HOSTILIS POOOWWDDEERRREEEDDD BARK from a reputed vendor. (I'm not sure which vendors are reliable and which aren't, actually, but the sponsor vendors of this site that sell MH powdered bark are a good bet).

What this will do, is break down the bark cell walls and also turn the contained alkaloids (especially DMT) into a deprotonated form.

-basification of the acidic solution. This will turn the deprotonated DMT into freebase DMT. You CANNOT POSSIBLY make this solution too basic, as in, if you make the PH a whole 14, that's just fine and is good, for that matter.

-extraction of the freebase DMT with an appropriate solvent.

-evaporation of PART OF the solvent solution containing DMT (and some other alkaloids and oils), so that these things freeze-precipitate more easily.

-freeze precipitation.

As for the exact numbers/details, I can also give you my personal opinions/advice on all that, too.


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Re: What do I need for DMT? [Re: POWAtrippin]
    #16676278 - 08/10/12 12:21 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I never said I didn't know what's going on, what I asked for is ingredients. You see, some say you need NaOH from one source, others from a different source. Well, I'm not a fucking genius when it comes to which pool cleaning product has the best, cleanest, highest concentration of NaOH. If you don't want to help me, that's fine, but my God, I thought y'all were friendly on these forums. Must've thought wrong when I can't even get any help as to what the fuck is best to use. Mimosa Hostilis or Acacia? Which is the best source of Naphtha? But oh well, thanks for the "help". :wink:

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Re: What do I need for DMT? [Re: RonPaul 2012]
    #16676320 - 08/10/12 12:28 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks, Magical :laugh: I have been ordering Mamosa Hostilis for a while (not for drug reasons. Mamosa Hostilis is very good with nutrition. It's a superfood.) and there's an excellent website I order it from. It is already pulverized into powder and everything so that's good :laugh:

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Re: What do I need for DMT? [Re: RonPaul 2012]
    #16676348 - 08/10/12 12:31 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

It isn't exactly hard to read MSDS safety sheets bro.

The point is how you presented yourself seemed like some little kid saying "Hey i know about chemistry, how do i make drugs, please explain everything"

Honestly tho, there are so many A/B extraction threads!

for lye i go to ace hardware, they have a 100% lye drain cleaner that a lot of people seem to use.  Soap users also heavily use this brand.

As for solvents, kleenstrip or whatever the brand is seems to have very good products.

Honestly you say "There is no shopping list I have seen yet" and the only way I can respond to that is "Are you kidding me?".  Basically every extraction ever tells you everything you need.  A lot of the 'teks' posted even have brand names in them.


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Re: What do I need for DMT? [Re: POWAtrippin]
    #16676366 - 08/10/12 12:34 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Another few details:

USE VINEGAR for the acid extraction.

USE LYE for the basification.

USE VM&P NAPTHA for the solvent extraction.

They also tell you to dilute the vinegar before you mix it with the bark powder. BULLSHIT. Just put pure WHITE vinegar in the mimosa hostilis powder and shake it up and let it sit in a warm location (maybe 80-90 F) for a day or two, then slowly simmer it on the stove or crockpot for an hour. There's a couple other details but digest that for now


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Re: What do I need for DMT? [Re: POWAtrippin]
    #16676373 - 08/10/12 12:35 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Yes, of course each guide has a list of things you need, but there's only a shitload of different guides on this stuff lol

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Re: What do I need for DMT? [Re: RonPaul 2012]
    #16676380 - 08/10/12 12:35 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Magical, is there any benefit to using HCl instead of Vinegar?

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Re: What do I need for DMT? [Re: RonPaul 2012]
    #16676400 - 08/10/12 12:38 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

RonPaul 2012 said:
Yes, of course each guide has a list of things you need, but there's only a shitload of different guides on this stuff lol



find a guide that has alot of positive feedback. there are plenty all over this forum. make sure you follow wichever guide you find to the T


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Re: What do I need for DMT? [Re: POWAtrippin]
    #16676406 - 08/10/12 12:40 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

yeah DMT is rather simple to extract. But it actually does require some understanding of the specific chemicals/reagents involved to not mess it up.

For instance. The DMT salts made by say vinegar or especially HCL (not necessary, don't mess with that corrosive stuff), are stable at high temperatures, but pure/freebase DMT is sensitive as hell to temperature. So I say mix the mimosa with the vinegar and let it stay in a room temperature or slightly above room temperature location for a day or two, so that a lot of the DMT will go into salt form, and then slowly simmer than on the stove.

When you basify it, the DMT will once again be sensitive to heat, so be careful not to keep the basified solution anywhere above even 95-100 F. And when you evaporate part of the naptha, DO NOT USE HEAT, including say a hair dryer, because the hot air from the dryer will fuck up some of the DMT.

You want to evaporate part of the naptha because otherwise a lot of the DMT won't precipitate even in the cold freezer, which btw, USE a thermometer to make sure that the freezer is at least -20 C, otherwise -4 F.


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Hugging your mind, praying to survive, feeling the love of the hieroglyphs in the sky
We all need more love, and mainly less hate
Hate is the blind that covers the heart's eye
That makes the heart's eye cry
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It's all in the mind

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