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Splat
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Moldy shrooms.... can I extract?! HELP!
#1658665 - 06/24/03 02:02 PM (20 years, 9 months ago) |
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I went out of town for one week... the worst week possible.. right mid flush. My house mate picked them in my absence, but didnt quite understand how to dry them. When I returned I found a MASSIVE pile of mushrooms each with a white fuzy cap (not mycillium). now that I have a heap of moldy shrooms is there anything I can do with them? can I extract the psylo without extracting yummy mold juice? SUGGESTIONS?!
Thanks.
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FallenShroom
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Re: Moldy shrooms.... can I extract?! HELP! [Re: Splat]
#1658815 - 06/24/03 03:12 PM (20 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sorry bro tough luck only place for them is the trash i know it sucks but you will get ill its not worth it
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Splat
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Re: Moldy shrooms.... can I extract?! HELP! [Re: FallenShroom]
#1659005 - 06/24/03 04:30 PM (20 years, 9 months ago) |
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Arg!
Thanks for the reply. there were a couple that had only a few small spots on the caps. I wipped them off with rubbing alcohol... do you think these are ok to eat? It was just a creamy white fuzz (powder)... hmm... What do you think?
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2Experimental
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Re: Moldy shrooms.... can I extract?! HELP! [Re: Splat]
#1659012 - 06/24/03 04:31 PM (20 years, 9 months ago) |
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Why dont you just cut off the part with the mold on it? I dunno, it seems this should work... if they are covered everywhere in the mold, I think your outa luck
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peetee32
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#1659333 - 06/24/03 06:21 PM (20 years, 9 months ago) |
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Kalbaska
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Re: Moldy shrooms.... can I extract?! HELP! [Re: peetee32]
#1659965 - 06/24/03 10:30 PM (20 years, 9 months ago) |
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How do you make tea? can you also make it out of dry molded shrooms?
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ATWAR
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Re: Moldy shrooms.... can I extract?! HELP! [Re: Kalbaska]
#1660018 - 06/24/03 10:45 PM (20 years, 9 months ago) |
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I really dont see the difference between drinking tea that was made with moldy shrooms, and eating moldy shrooms.... Personally I wouldnt do either, but then again I dont like getting ill...
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neutralizer
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Re: Moldy shrooms.... can I extract?! HELP! [Re: ATWAR]
#1667503 - 06/27/03 03:48 PM (20 years, 9 months ago) |
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If you boil it you will destroy some, maybe all of the psilocybin. I don't know the exact statistics, but I think temperatures over 96 deg. F begin to destroy the psilocybin.
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Alkaloids
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Re: Moldy shrooms.... can I extract?! HELP! [Re: neutralizer]
#1669878 - 06/28/03 05:05 PM (20 years, 9 months ago) |
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ahem... let me clarify a few points for everyone as a public service announcement.
First of all there is no empirical evidence that would indicate that boiling the mushrooms will destroy any significant amount of pscilocybin(e) or psilocin(e). You can always add some kind of water soluble anti-oxidant if you are worried about it. Vitamine C is a good one. Oxidation will inacitivate psilocin(e) readily, but that comes from exposure to oxygen and other oxidizing compounds. Psilocybin(e) is much more resistant to oxidation due to the phosphate group attached at the 4 position on the phenyl ring. Psilocin(e) melts at @103-104 C (Shulgin) or 80 C (according to Ott1996), but that is when it is in pure crystal form. Psilocybin(e) melts @ at even higher temperatures, but is more soluble in water and less prone to getting degraded.
My main concern here is the idea of trying to use the molding mushrooms. Many molds have some nasty toxins in them and many people also have allergies to mold spores. I would recommend against using the mushrooms, but if you do please keep a sample in a bag in case you get sick and have to go to the hospital. This way the doctor can make a more accurate diagnosis. be careful.. it's easy enough to grow more.
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