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clapauc
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PEYOTE DOSAGE?
#16181665 - 05/04/12 12:54 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hi, have a look at this Lophophora Williamsii here.
Would it be enough for a trip? If so, a mellow; moderate or strong trip? I have been searching the net quite a bit on peyote dosage but I read things like 1-3 buttons being enough, then somewhere else I read 15 up to 20 buttons needed for a trip. How big/old should these buttons be anyway?? Confusing...
The peyote I showed you is quite old (I don't know how old exactly) and about 8 cm diameter. Afaik that's pretty big already. Anyone with a lot of experience/knowledge on this willing to help me out?
Thanks in advance,
Clapauc
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Edited by clapauc (05/16/12 07:33 AM)
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Re: Would this peyote contain enough mescaline etc to trip from? [Re: clapauc] 1
#16181764 - 05/04/12 01:22 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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eat it and find out. the whole thing, root and all.
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Re: Would this peyote contain enough mescaline etc to trip from? [Re: clapauc]
#16181824 - 05/04/12 01:37 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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Fresh Peyote Dosages
Light 3 - 6 mid-sized buttons 50 - 100 g
Common 6 - 12 buttons 100 - 150 g
Strong 8 - 16 buttons 150 - 200 g
Heavy 15 + buttons 200 + g
erowid
Don't eat it.
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Re: Would this peyote contain enough mescaline etc to trip from? [Re: ferrel_human] 2
#16181827 - 05/04/12 01:37 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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Actually the potting soil contains mescaline sulphates, you should take Ferrel's advice and then make a smoothie out of the soil!
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Re: Would this peyote contain enough mescaline etc to trip from? [Re: RourkeAnderson]
#16181862 - 05/04/12 01:50 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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RourkeAnderson said: Actually the potting soil contains mescaline sulphates, you should take Ferrel's advice and then make a smoothie out of the soil!
funny you should say. i remember reading somewhere that the mescaline from the soil actuually seeps into the pot.
now i'm no expert but if the pot is ground up really fine, be it plastic or clay, this could be a good source for mescaline too.
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Edited by ferrel_human (05/04/12 01:51 PM)
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Re: Would this peyote contain enough mescaline etc to trip from? [Re: The Phleg]
#16181921 - 05/04/12 02:04 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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clapauc
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Re: Would this peyote contain enough mescaline etc to trip from? [Re: ferrel_human]
#16181926 - 05/04/12 02:05 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ok then, not eating it is I have two others like these exactly as big.
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Edited by clapauc (05/06/12 06:44 PM)
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Re: Would this peyote contain enough mescaline etc to trip from? [Re: clapauc]
#16181936 - 05/04/12 02:08 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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clapauc said: Ok then, not eating it is I have two others like these exactly as big
that big one you got has got a pup.
graft it. see it take off. let it flower and plant the seed.
when you have a mighty peyoot garden then partake of it all you want.
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Re: Would this peyote contain enough mescaline etc to trip from? [Re: ferrel_human]
#16181960 - 05/04/12 02:14 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm guessing a "Button" is a horizontal section about 1/2" thick. If that specimen were made into buttons it would equal @ 6; Right?
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Re: Would this peyote contain enough mescaline etc to trip from? [Re: Buster_Brown]
#16182002 - 05/04/12 02:25 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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No, a button is the green part of the plant, without the roots.
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Re: Would this peyote contain enough mescaline etc to trip from? [Re: Tangich]
#16183197 - 05/04/12 07:44 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thank you very much for your reactions. It seems there's much more needed than I thought.. I have 2 other peyotes just as big, one being with a lot of pups. You think even all that wouldn't be enough? I can post some pictures if anyone would like to see them. I Guess maybe it's better not touch them and wait for my seedlings to mature... Got some peruvians about a year old, and some peyotes now almost two years old and they're still only as big as a pea...
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Re: Would this peyote contain enough mescaline etc to trip from? [Re: clapauc]
#16183592 - 05/04/12 09:16 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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clapauc said: Thank you very much for your reactions. It seems there's much more needed than I thought.. I have 2 other peyotes just as big, one being with a lot of pups. You think even all that wouldn't be enough? I can post some pictures if anyone would like to see them. I Guess maybe it's better not touch them and wait for my seedlings to mature... Got some peruvians about a year old, and some peyotes now almost two years old and they're still only as big as a pea...
glad you changed your mind , you wouldve felt like a right muppet if you had have killed them for nothing.
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Re: Would this peyote contain enough mescaline etc to trip from? [Re: atomicshaman]
#16184047 - 05/04/12 11:01 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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Buy some Bridgesii from one of our sponsors to take your journey and treat the Loph to the respect it deserves..
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Edited by golfin_ernie (05/04/12 11:02 PM)
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Re: Would this peyote contain enough mescaline etc to trip from? [Re: golfin_ernie]
#16184890 - 05/05/12 05:22 AM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yea I have a bridgesii here as well and a torch. Both at about 10 cm. Also a pachanoi cristate. I have eaten 4 pachanois in the past, always a foot. Three trips being very mellow but enjoyable and one being really amazing. Can't wait for my next cactus experience since that one .
I won't touch the peyos tho.
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Re: Would this peyote contain enough mescaline etc to trip from? [Re: clapauc]
#16185375 - 05/05/12 09:48 AM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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lets see some pics of all of them
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Re: Would this peyote contain enough mescaline etc to trip from? [Re: clapauc]
#16186526 - 05/05/12 03:19 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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clapauc said: Thank you very much for your reactions. It seems there's much more needed than I thought.. I have 2 other peyotes just as big, one being with a lot of pups. You think even all that wouldn't be enough? I can post some pictures if anyone would like to see them. I Guess maybe it's better not touch them and wait for my seedlings to mature... Got some peruvians about a year old, and some peyotes now almost two years old and they're still only as big as a pea...
i think i can recall reading somewhere that a peyote plant can take up to 50 years for it to reach adulthood, hence the need to consume larger amounts of the buttons.
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Re: Would this peyote contain enough mescaline etc to trip from? [Re: churchblotter]
#16190072 - 05/06/12 11:40 AM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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churchblotter said:
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clapauc said: Thank you very much for your reactions. It seems there's much more needed than I thought.. I have 2 other peyotes just as big, one being with a lot of pups. You think even all that wouldn't be enough? I can post some pictures if anyone would like to see them. I Guess maybe it's better not touch them and wait for my seedlings to mature... Got some peruvians about a year old, and some peyotes now almost two years old and they're still only as big as a pea...
i think i can recall reading somewhere that a peyote plant can take up to 50 years for it to reach adulthood, hence the need to consume larger amounts of the buttons.
So you are actually saying one could be enough if it's old enough? I'll upload some pictures of all of them soon.
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Re: Would this peyote contain enough mescaline etc to trip from? [Re: clapauc]
#16190368 - 05/06/12 01:11 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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So for those willing to see my little cacti collection, here it is
These are my peruvian torch seedlings.
Then here are the other two big peyotes.
This is supposed to be a peruvian torch
This is my bridgesii, very beautiful I think
2 of my 6 peyote seedlings, very little
Here another peyote. I went on a holiday for three months, had my brother looking after my cacti. When I came back it had this white stuff on it as you can see. I think it had a little bit too much water. When I touched it it would feel soft, now two months later it feels hard again so it should survive.
Then this is my pachanoi cristate
As you can see this one unfortunately had gotten some white stuff on it too. It had a part left below rotting, because it was touching the soil. I cut the rotting part of. I hope it will be fine.
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Re: Would this peyote contain enough mescaline etc to trip from? [Re: clapauc]
#16191469 - 05/06/12 06:14 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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So from the info I gathered, the six or more pups around IMG_jpg_5048 would be more potent than the larger parent plant.
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Re: Would this peyote contain enough mescaline etc to trip from? [Re: Buster_Brown]
#16191485 - 05/06/12 06:17 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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curious to hear explanation
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Buster_Brown said: So from the info I gathered, the six or more pups around IMG_jpg_5048 would be more potent than the larger parent plant.
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