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uninc4life2010
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My thoughts on complexing blotter.
#16026525 - 03/31/12 09:43 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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I had ran across some 25i freebase in the past and took it by dissolving the compound in ethyl alcohol, then soaking blotter paper in the 25i solution. I dosed each blotter at roughly 500ug 25I. My friends and I experienced mixed results, some people had a great experience, others claimed that it was very weak, and few visuals were present. My experience was so so, and could've been better. I kept playing with it over a few weeks, but still with mixed results.
I just recently learned that one needs blotter complexed with HPBCD in order for the 25I freebase to be effective. Apparently the 25I has a difficult time passing through the skin and into the bloodstream, so HPBCD is required to facilitate this. I just ordered some HPBCD for this purpose, and am prepared to try a second time.
From what I understand a good ratio of 25i to hpbcd is 1:9. For the purpose of even numbers, say I have 100mg 25i, I can mix this with 900mg hpbcd in 50ml or so of everclear. My question is as follows: would it be acceptable to just lay the appropriate amount of blotter paper in this complexed alcohol solution to achieve quality complexed blotter, or is there another more effective method?
I have heard of other people wetting their blotter, evenly spreading hpbcd on the surface, and then applying liquid 25I and allowing it to soak. This may be a great method, but just dipping it in a complexed alcohol solution just seems to be a little easier.
Any thoughts or help would be greatly appreciated.
edit: Also, another method that might be effective would be to lay the blotter in a 25I solution as I normally have, then spread a thin layer of hpbcd powder on the surface of the paper while it still is a bit damp (before all the everclear has evaporated). Just a thought.
Edited by uninc4life2010 (03/31/12 09:59 PM)
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Re: My thoughts on complexing blotter. [Re: uninc4life2010]
#16026605 - 03/31/12 09:57 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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your way IS simpler and easier.
sounds good
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uninc4life2010
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Re: My thoughts on complexing blotter. [Re: leafing]
#16026622 - 03/31/12 10:00 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
leafing said: your way IS simpler and easier.
sounds good
Any success personally?
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Re: My thoughts on complexing blotter. [Re: uninc4life2010]
#16026630 - 03/31/12 10:01 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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i dont do drugs anymore
but i have read extensively on it and heard great results the way you're thinking of doing it.
get back at us
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uninc4life2010
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Re: My thoughts on complexing blotter. [Re: leafing]
#16026665 - 03/31/12 10:11 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
leafing said: i dont do drugs anymore
but i have read extensively on it and heard great results the way you're thinking of doing it.
get back at us
Yeah man, I just didn't get great results from uncomplexed blotter, because I just didn't know that HPBCD was required to make it effective. Once I get my hpbcd in the mail, I'll do a trip report and note the difference between the two, using the same method of applying the compounds to the paper. Everything seems to have a learning curve to it.
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Re: My thoughts on complexing blotter. [Re: uninc4life2010]
#16026683 - 03/31/12 10:15 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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+1
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Re: My thoughts on complexing blotter. [Re: leafing]
#16031000 - 04/01/12 08:08 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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Complexing the drug is not your easiest option, and it's completely unnecessary in my experience. Just salt it with an acid, vinegar, citric, muriatic or any other. I made ~650µg blotters of 25i-nbome citrate and they are very effective, strong ++ to +++ for the few people who've tried them, comparable to maybe 100-120µg of acid. Also, no need to keep it more than 10 minutes against your gums, brush your teeth or any other nonsense. I even swallowed my saliva and didn't notice a decrease in potency, so it must be somewhat active orally. But that's only from 4 trials so far, so don't take my word for it. PM me if you want to know how I proceed exactly, but broadly, you'll have to dissolve your freebase in a solvent (ethanol? a little more than your paper will absorb) with an equimolar/excess amount of acid, stir, fry, enjoy. The best and fastest way to lay blotters is to have a tray the same size as your paper (or the around way around) so you can just soak it and evaporate (I double boil the tray, 25i seems pretty stable).
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