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Democratic women seek a state ban on vasectomies for men
    #15849009 - 02/22/12 06:31 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

This is actually pretty clever.

“Thousands of children are deprived of birth in this state every year because of the lack of state regulation over vasectomies,” said Rep. Yasmin Neal, author of the bill. “It is patently unfair that men can avoid unwanted fatherhood by presuming that their judgment over such matters is more valid than the judgment of the General Assembly, while women’s ability to decide is constantly up for debate throughout the United States.”



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Re: Democratic women seek a state ban on vasectomies for men [Re: shadowplay]
    #15849016 - 02/22/12 06:32 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

:nonono: what the fuck is wrong with these fucking people!? It's  my sperm, i can share it with whoever i want. These chicks obviously don't get laid and declared vendetta.


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Re: Democratic women seek a state ban on vasectomies for men [Re: King Klick] * 1
    #15849023 - 02/22/12 06:34 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

They're not serious. They're trying to make a point.

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Re: Democratic women seek a state ban on vasectomies for men [Re: King Klick]
    #15849025 - 02/22/12 06:34 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

If Rick Scrotusum gets elected as President, he is ready to mandate bedroom cameras to make sure you don't use rubbers when you fuck.


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Re: Democratic women seek a state ban on vasectomies for men [Re: King Klick]
    #15849027 - 02/22/12 06:35 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

The act is really more of a satire made to criticize abortion restrictions.

House Minority Leader Stacey Abrams added, “The Republican attack on women’s reproductive rights is unconscionable. What is more deplorable is the hypocrisy of HB 954’s author. If we follow his logic, we believe it is the obligation of this General Assembly to assert an equally invasive state interest in the reproductive habits of men and substitute the will of the government over the will of adult men.”

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Re: Democratic women seek a state ban on vasectomies for men [Re: King Klick]
    #15849033 - 02/22/12 06:35 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I don't even want kids.

I'm gonna get one as soon as I can.

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Re: Democratic women seek a state ban on vasectomies for men [Re: King Klick] * 3
    #15849037 - 02/22/12 06:35 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

They are comparing vasectomy with abortion?

Wouldn't tubal ligation be a more appropriate comparison? I just don't get it. :shrug:


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Re: Democratic women seek a state ban on vasectomies for men [Re: shadowplay]
    #15849045 - 02/22/12 06:37 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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shadowplay said:
This is actually pretty clever.

“Thousands of children are deprived of birth in this state every year because of the lack of state regulation over vasectomies,” said Rep. Yasmin Neal, author of the bill. “It is patently unfair that men can avoid unwanted fatherhood by presuming that their judgment over such matters is more valid than the judgment of the General Assembly, while women’s ability to decide is constantly up for debate throughout the United States.”
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the woman's right to decide isnt up for debate, it's guaranteed under roe v wade

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Re: Democratic women seek a state ban on vasectomies for men [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #15849048 - 02/22/12 06:38 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

There are those that want to turn that over.

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Re: Democratic women seek a state ban on vasectomies for men [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #15849054 - 02/22/12 06:39 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

True, but:

"This afternoon, the House Judiciary (Non-Civil) Committee will take up HB 954, a measure that would prohibit abortions on women who are more than 20 weeks pregnant. Current law prohibits abortions after the second trimester, or about 24 weeks."

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Re: Democratic women seek a state ban on vasectomies for men [Re: shadowplay] * 1
    #15849068 - 02/22/12 06:42 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Women can get their tubes tied if they like, no problem.


I personally think it's unfair that only a woman has a choice to abort the baby. As a man, if I get a woman pregnant and don't wish to raise the baby or pay child support, it should be my right to abort the baby.

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Re: Democratic women seek a state ban on vasectomies for men [Re: Jwlst]
    #15849096 - 02/22/12 06:47 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Unless the woman signs off on ever receiving child support for that baby.


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Re: Democratic women seek a state ban on vasectomies for men [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #15849108 - 02/22/12 06:50 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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shadowplay said:
This is actually pretty clever.

“Thousands of children are deprived of birth in this state every year because of the lack of state regulation over vasectomies,” said Rep. Yasmin Neal, author of the bill. “It is patently unfair that men can avoid unwanted fatherhood by presuming that their judgment over such matters is more valid than the judgment of the General Assembly, while women’s ability to decide is constantly up for debate throughout the United States.”
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the woman's right to decide isnt up for debate, it's guaranteed under roe v wade




And yet it is debated in every election cycle, in Congress, and state legislatures all the time.  In addition, there have been several high profile cases clarifying and modifying the ruling in Roe v. Wade.

Seems like the discussion is open to me :shrug:


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Re: Democratic women seek a state ban on vasectomies for men [Re: Le_Canard]
    #15849117 - 02/22/12 06:51 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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There are those that want to turn that over.





and in 40 years how many times has it come close to being overturned it even
actually back in the courts... from what I've seen, the abortion argument is
no more than a liberal scare tactic."the rebublicans are trying to ban
abortion" in actuality, they're not doing shit on abortion, conservatives
dont believe in legislation from the bench or encroachment of the federal
government into our personal lives. issues like abortion and prohibition
belong on the state level, not the federal level

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Re: Democratic women seek a state ban on vasectomies for men [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #15849124 - 02/22/12 06:54 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Abortion belongs to the decision of the parents. No law should concern your body.


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Re: Democratic women seek a state ban on vasectomies for men [Re: Le_Canard]
    #15849126 - 02/22/12 06:54 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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King Klick said:
:nonono: what the fuck is wrong with these fucking people!? It's  my sperm, i can share it with whoever i want. These chicks obviously don't get laid and declared vendetta.



Quote:

ToiletDuk said:
They're not serious. They're trying to make a point.





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Re: Democratic women seek a state ban on vasectomies for men [Re: fbi365]
    #15849147 - 02/22/12 06:57 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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fbi365 said:
Quote:

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shadowplay said:
This is actually pretty clever.

“Thousands of children are deprived of birth in this state every year because of the lack of state regulation over vasectomies,” said Rep. Yasmin Neal, author of the bill. “It is patently unfair that men can avoid unwanted fatherhood by presuming that their judgment over such matters is more valid than the judgment of the General Assembly, while women’s ability to decide is constantly up for debate throughout the United States.”
]





the woman's right to decide isnt up for debate, it's guaranteed under roe v wade




And yet it is debated in every election cycle, in Congress, and state legislatures all the time.  In addition, there have been several high profile cases clarifying and modifying the ruling in Roe v. Wade.

Seems like the discussion is open to me :shrug:




then surely you can show us these debates, not something in the
presidential debates, those congressional debates, the modifications,
what were they really? what was changed?

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Re: Democratic women seek a state ban on vasectomies for men [Re: King Klick]
    #15849157 - 02/22/12 06:59 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Abortion belongs to the decision of the parents. No law should concern your body.





and if there's no law protecting the right of women to terminate the
pregnancy then what's left for them if it's outlawed, go to another
state? have a back alley abortion?

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Re: Democratic women seek a state ban on vasectomies for men [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #15849291 - 02/22/12 07:27 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

edit:  I don;t need to get involved in an abortionn debate on the shroomery.


I'll just say I did't think it was very clever.  I thought it was pretty stupid actually.

Edited by Beefy1 (02/22/12 07:38 PM)

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Re: Democratic women seek a state ban on vasectomies for men [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #15849437 - 02/22/12 08:09 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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ToiletDuk said:
There are those that want to turn that over.





conservatives dont believe in legislation from the bench or encroachment of the federal
government into our personal lives.




:rofl:  Okay.  But I think it really depends on what it is.  Environmental regulation, then you might be right.  But when it comes to many things that can be considered a "sin" in policy debates, then you are so far from correct. 

You can read about the cases since Roe V Wade here


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