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Stepping into the fire (Ayahuasca Documentary)
    #15842696 - 02/21/12 01:17 PM (12 years, 29 days ago)



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Re: Stepping into the fire (Ayahuasca Documentary) [Re: JackofSpades]
    #15842735 - 02/21/12 01:27 PM (12 years, 29 days ago)

Ayahuasca tourism is such a sham. :facepalm:


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Re: Stepping into the fire (Ayahuasca Documentary) [Re: muistrue]
    #15842822 - 02/21/12 01:54 PM (12 years, 29 days ago)

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Ayahuasca tourism is such a sham. :facepalm:




this documentary has nothing to do with that.


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Re: Stepping into the fire (Ayahuasca Documentary) [Re: muistrue]
    #15842831 - 02/21/12 01:58 PM (12 years, 29 days ago)

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Ayahuasca tourism is such a sham. :facepalm:




make it in your own house like a real american
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Re: Stepping into the fire (Ayahuasca Documentary) [Re: k00laid]
    #15842845 - 02/21/12 02:01 PM (12 years, 29 days ago)

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JackofSpades said:
this documentary has nothing to do with that.




I just re watched the trailer in case I was mistaken but yep that's exactly what it's about.

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Ayahuasca tourism is such a sham. :facepalm:




make it in your own house like a real american
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:hippie:




:thumbup:


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Re: Stepping into the fire (Ayahuasca Documentary) [Re: muistrue]
    #15843282 - 02/21/12 03:49 PM (12 years, 29 days ago)

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JackofSpades said:
this documentary has nothing to do with that.




I just re watched the trailer in case I was mistaken but yep that's exactly what it's about.

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k00laid said:
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Ayahuasca tourism is such a sham. :facepalm:




make it in your own house like a real american
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:hippie:




:thumbup:





I guess we have a different definition of ayahuasca tourism. Ayahuasca tourism to me is people going down to Peru without any respect or understanding of what the medicine is and taking it "as just another thing to do" since they are there--such as visiting Machu Picchu. This video is more or less an antithesis to that. The film is about searching out ayahuasca in Peru looking for existential answers and transformative healing.

The film follows the story of two people. One of them is a man dying from cancer with a few months left to live, looking to open himself up to a deeper perspective on life. The other is a former wall street broker who is looking to straighten his life out from hedonistic greed, stress, depression, and become a better father. He winds up having a life altering experience where he receives a message from the plant medicine to build a retreat center to help anyone who needs it, which he then does, literally taking all of his life savings and constructing this retreat center with the help of the indigenous community (shimbre ...google it)

The film is about the transformative power of ayahuasca and how it can be used to help and heal others. Writing it off as a sham before you watch it is contempt prior to investigation, which is ironic because the film discusses how people just disregard the medicinal properties of ayahuasca as bullshit without even taking the time to see what its all about. I'm not saying you're discrediting ayahuasca in and of itself. But if retreat centers in the amazon, which you would presumably dub as "ayahuasca tourism", help and heal people with severe mental illness and traumas than how can you refer to them as a "sham"?


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Re: Stepping into the fire (Ayahuasca Documentary) [Re: JackofSpades]
    #15843322 - 02/21/12 03:57 PM (12 years, 29 days ago)

I'm sure they're not all like that but I remember seeing the piece they did on that guy in the psychedelic episode of Drugs Inc. and it made it seem like he was starting an ayahuasca business down there to profit off of people seeking healing from ayahuasca. Not that there's something inherently wrong with that but sham was the first thing that came to mind when I was watching it. You make a good point though I'll watch the documentary.


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Re: Stepping into the fire (Ayahuasca Documentary) [Re: muistrue]
    #15843444 - 02/21/12 04:24 PM (12 years, 29 days ago)

theres also sorts of shaman tourism

i watched one where they took these people up some mountains to like a hot spring or something

except its COLD AS FUCK OUTDISE

and they make them like drinking this mescaline tea through there nose.

shit was so weird.

everyone was a pussy about it

and the dude was like just chugging this drink through his fucking nose.


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Re: Stepping into the fire (Ayahuasca Documentary) [Re: muistrue]
    #15843905 - 02/21/12 06:20 PM (12 years, 29 days ago)

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I'm sure they're not all like that but I remember seeing the piece they did on that guy in the psychedelic episode of Drugs Inc. and it made it seem like he was starting an ayahuasca business down there to profit off of people seeking healing from ayahuasca. Not that there's something inherently wrong with that but sham was the first thing that came to mind when I was watching it. You make a good point though I'll watch the documentary.




Cool, :thumbup:

I'm curious to hear what you think of it.


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Re: Stepping into the fire (Ayahuasca Documentary) [Re: JackofSpades]
    #15845187 - 02/21/12 10:09 PM (12 years, 29 days ago)

Just watched it. Pretty cool, thanks for posting.

Gosh though, what an unlikable bunch of personalities.

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Re: Stepping into the fire (Ayahuasca Documentary) [Re: OnePerEyeM8]
    #15845250 - 02/21/12 10:22 PM (12 years, 29 days ago)

i dont get the problem with any psychedelic tourism?

I mean thats what Leary did with mushrooms in mexico, Mckenna as well :shrug:


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Re: Stepping into the fire (Ayahuasca Documentary) [Re: tracedwards313]
    #15845383 - 02/21/12 11:00 PM (12 years, 29 days ago)

if im not mistaken maybe i took it differnt then others but does he not state they take anyone/bring anyone with out a charge. That it is purely a healing center?

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Re: Stepping into the fire (Ayahuasca Documentary) [Re: creativeshroomer]
    #15845408 - 02/21/12 11:06 PM (12 years, 29 days ago)

he did say that...but who knows

you should try to go there for free, then let me know if it turns out for ya :grin:


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Re: Stepping into the fire (Ayahuasca Documentary) [Re: tracedwards313]
    #15845975 - 02/22/12 02:22 AM (12 years, 28 days ago)

archived, will watch later


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Re: Stepping into the fire (Ayahuasca Documentary) [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #15846170 - 02/22/12 05:10 AM (12 years, 28 days ago)

Watched half of it yesterday I enjoyed it, some really nice videography. I met someone on tour about a year ago (I think January 2011 right before Jam Cruise) and he told me about someone who paid for him to go to the Amazon and take Ayahuasca in a massive healing center and he did say Shimbre (but I wouldn't remember that w/o this movie). So just from that conversation, I would say that the guy must be legit enough to actually fly strangers down for healing. maybe he is authentically doing his part to change the world in the way he can...The guy I met had nothing but nice things to say about the center and the people there...

Going to finish the documentary tonight or tomorrow time allowing...

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