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To put it simply I'm dealing with some tingling in my finger, feet. My body just feels out right weak, when I stand I almost feel like I'm gonna fall or a sinking sensation almost.
The stupid thing is my doctor hasn't been able to figure this out, all we've found it is that I am vitamin D defiecient, but I doubt this is simply vitamin d defecincy plus I'm taking vitamins. I'm afraid I might have some sort of muscle disorder. I have had costochondritis now for months but never before has my body just gotten heavy on me like this, it's very weird. I could be a little depressed sometimes but even so this much physical weakness I feel like something is up. It's also hard to sleep. Does anyone know what the right type of doctor could be for this? Really any ideas would be appreciated. I'm 23 and to say the least costochondritis has killed my year and made me much more solidtary. If this can be figured out or fixed that would be a relief. Thanks.
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Scarab74 Warminatrix Registered: 07/06/09 Posts: 1,554 Loc: Conchs & Coconuts, USA Last seen: 9 years, 11 months |
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Try a neurologist first to rule out vpnervous system issues?
-------------------- ~Scarab74 We are such stuff as dreams are made of. W. Shakespeare - The Tempest
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Anonymous #1 |
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Quote: Guess that may work, it feels so physical though but guess that could be possible. edit: reading on neurology it sounds like the right way to go. Thanks Edited by Anonymous (02/19/12 07:37 PM)
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Scarab74 Warminatrix Registered: 07/06/09 Posts: 1,554 Loc: Conchs & Coconuts, USA Last seen: 9 years, 11 months |
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I do hope you feel better soon regardless of what the problem really is!
-------------------- ~Scarab74 We are such stuff as dreams are made of. W. Shakespeare - The Tempest
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Anonymous #1 |
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Thank you.
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cateyes Registered: 12/16/03 Posts: 2,754 |
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not that their standards make much sense but are you deficient or insufficient? what are your vitamin d numbers? are you the same OP who discussed costochondritis a while ago? if so can you direct me to that thread so that i can see the progression of your posts? are you eating foods that can cause any type of inflammation what so ever? low vitamin d can be playing a very important role in this. i'm not suggesting this is your sole problem but vitamin d deficiency is one of the most serious to have in the long haul. and MD's and researchers who i have great respect for are saying the 30-100 is low and that the high limit should actually be considered the low of the appropriate scale. but this is just the beginning of the debate because the labs and the AMA have slid the scale over time, in other words lowering it over time to match lab demographics... if you are experiencing some sort of neuropathy maybe it is a good idea to see a neurologist, especially if your MD is unable to answer your questions or admits he/she has no answers.
you could have severe allergies to foods that a standard IgE test will completely miss. you could have a delayed or hyper response and these two types of allergic reactions are completely unique from one another but the most common problem is delayed and if your eating the wrong foods your body will remain in a continuous inflammatory state and someone might finally throw their hands up in the air and label you with fibromyalgia or chronic fatigue syndrome or something along those lines if no one can actually draw the right conclusion... if it was you who posted in the past and i have a strong feeling it is you direct us to that thread and we'll try and go from there. K~~~
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hey, yea. same guy. cant find the anonymous thread but did find this one -
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/ Thanks for the help. i'm actually trying to refrain from gluten to see if it helps but my bodies sort of been in pain all day and lately i fet this heavy feeling often when I walk around. tommorow im going to try to get an appointment somewhere maybe with neurologist or doctor that specializes in arthritis and fybromyalgia, etc. For the vitamin d my doctor said its a little low and i should take 2000 IU a day. Sometimes I may eat cereal or occasional chocolste but right now I'm not touching any of that. At the moment my chest feels so inflamed im not gonna eat much of anything till i figure more out. Right this second tho I've hardly gotten sleep in the past 24-48 hours so that mite be making it worse but certainly whatever i have seems to have progressed and I have a major headache today too. i was prescribed moxicillin because of a sinus headache i has yesterday im actually a little concerned if its bad for my body but mite tske more later. anyway Im guessing maybe fibro, chronic fatigue seem it could make sense. will see what happens i guess. well Im bout to try to pass out Edited by Anonymous (02/20/12 12:25 AM)
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cateyes Registered: 12/16/03 Posts: 2,754 |
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Quote: well when i said eventually you may be diagnosed with fibro or chronic fatigue i wasn't supporting the idea/diagnosis, it's just the nature of the prognosis of this type of final diagnosis... both of these disorders are completely reversible... and you yourself used the term "deficiency"... deficiency by allopathic standards means your readings were below 20 and i've already stated that the integrative's are saying that the 30-100 scale is wrong. your doctor placed you on 2000 IU's per day for a deficiency when your body is capable of producing up to 10,000-15,000 IU's with a 15-20 minute exposure to a high output sun box.... my original vitamin d deficiency was 10 and i was placed on 50,000 IU's every other day and 10,000 IU's on every day in between for 3+ months and my d levels were recently retested at 78 or whatever... if you are truly deficient and your MD placed you on just 2000 IU's per day you are not being served well my friend, your doctor is completely clueless. and to place you on amoxicillin for a head ache is beyond the pale, unless you honestly believe this is being caused by some kind of infection but this may turn out to be some kind of blessing as it will kill off any bacteria in your gut tract also which is good because i'm going to eventually suggest an awesome probiotic to build up healthy gut flora which is critical for combating any type of inflammation. it's not uncommon for someone with your issues to have an imbalance between good and pathogenic bacteria and taking an anti-biotic cleans house so to speak so that you can start off with nothing but the good stuff in place. you can make an appointment if you feel you need to but you might want to wait a day or so until you find out what your vitamin d levels actually are. at that point I'd tell you what I'd do if it were me and you can take this information to an integrative MD and see how they feel if you're not comfortable with my advice, which is totally understandable. it's just that you've come this far and waiting a few extra days won't hurt anything in my opinion. K~~~
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Anonymous #1 |
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Quote: I mite might be able to know what my vitamin d levels are in the morning. Im gonna try to call the dr's office and see if they can tell me. Only reason I'm a little anxious maybe to see a specialist is cause it seems like it's gotten much worse in the past week or two and if it keeps up This way I don't see how I can really function. I even missed a class last week cause besides maybe lacking sleep I was afraid if I walked to class I would've gotten that heavy feeling and just felt weird and unsble to concentrate the whole time. It is a relief if those disorders can be reversed and even to find a diagnosis if it turns out to be the case would kind of be a relief to, so I have a way to get it all sorted out so to speak. Also on the topic of bacteria I think I'm gonna start buying some yogurt, from reading up on amoxicillin it seems a lot of ppl say yogurt is good cause of the pro biotics I think, and they taste good, so that probably is something im gonna check out. edit: I actually forgot to mention I did get an upper endoscopy and pretty sure nothing came up on it but do have a follow up appointment, not sure if the biopsies they did will show anything but will see what the Dr. says. Do feel a bit better after sleeping tho. Also gonna try to get sunlight whenever possible Edited by Anonymous (02/21/12 12:34 AM)
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Anonymous #1 |
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for what it is worth the Dr's office told me my vitamin d level is 28. im also trying to stay mostly gluten free seems like that may also help a little read up a little on gluten free diets a lot of people seem to advocate them
Edited by Anonymous (02/21/12 12:33 AM)
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cateyes Registered: 12/16/03 Posts: 2,754 |
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Quote: i'm not telling you to do this but i would completely eliminate ALL sugar, dairy, wheat/gluton, red meat, soy and anything containing corn, especially high fructose corn syrup for at least 1-2 months. i know this sounds radical but the goal is to reduce inflammation and the only way to determine what your allergic to is to either find an allergist who is willing to perform an IgG as well as a standard IgE allergy test or eliminate every possible food that has ever been linked to inflammation. once your balanced which will occur if you eliminate these foods you can begin to introduce each one back into your diet one at a time and wait at least two weeks because in all likelihood you have delayed allergic food reactions which is at the root of your kind of problems. i had delayed food allergies and treated it on my own without being aware of this very common underlying condition, but the changes were profound when i decided to go vegan... inflammation is the foundation of ALL disease and once you slip into a perpetual inflammatory state it's all down hill from there unless there is intervention... by eliminating these foods you are going to feel like absolute shit for 2-4 weeks depending on the level of food dependence and inflammation. energy levels and possible head aches and increased body aches do happen in some but rest assured your inflammation will be being addressed right out of the gate. right now we're taking a very educated guess you are inflamed to some degree because it is obvious but the only real way to accurately determine the level of inflammation is to have a c-reactive protein test done and not many MD's are willing to have this type of test done unless there is clear evidence or an existing underlying condition like lupus or chronic heart disease. odds are you would test high on this test because even diabetics who can convince their MD's to do the test, test very high many times and are always on the radar... rely on water, at least 8 glasses a day. you can use rice and almond milk in place of dairy. what is dairy? poor protein, calcium and maybe a bio weak vitamin d? fuck that, dairy also contains hormones and anti-biotics and fucking puss because it's impossible for it not to be present due to the nature of factory farming, but it only contains a limited amount of puss the USDA will say. they'll say we established maximum allowable limits in order to protect you!!! plus the milk producing cattle were fed grains in place of grass which placed the animal itself in a perpetual inflammatory state and we drink it's milk and consume it's flesh... YUM!!! as you begin to feel better you can introduce high quality cheeses and organic yogurts or begin to rely on goat dairy down the road just use it sparingly. many vegetables are awesome sources of calcium like kale for instance or spinach although in order to get ALL of the calcium benefits of spinach it should be steamed to a degree... Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Here's a Nutritional Value Calculator that Owls posted recently... It's currently displaying the nutritional value of a sweet potato... notice this food is highly anti-inflammatory? it is high in sugars though which is why it's on the moderate use chart. i'm not saying you have candida, but it is a very common issue those with your problems face so limiting the amounts of simple carbs will starve the yeast IF it is a problem but following this type of diet you'll be minimizing inflammation and allowing your body to produce it's own sugar energy on it's own which it was designed to do... Nutrition Data Calculator: Know Your Foods... Quote: you say your using vitamins which is good... hopefully it is a high quality, high potency vitamin and mineral supplement. I'd take one before breakfast and one before dinner and when you're feeling better you can reduce down to one per day or none at all as this will be all up to you at that point in time... i would take 1 gram of vitamin c three times per day and a high quality fish oil supplement if you can afford it because it is high in omega3's... you were given a prescription for some sort of sinus infection but if you haven't used it cool because i want you to start using the following probiotic... this is a good price on eBay... i have found it cheaper when you buy two at a time but right now there are no 2 bottle sales. this is good for 90 days when used as instructed. once you receive the bottle use the antibiotic to kill all the bacteria in your gut... once your done with the prescription begin to use the probiotic as instructed. this will begin to recolonize your digestive tract with nothing but desirable bacteria... this particular probiotic has 13 different strains of beneficial bacteria with a very high bacteria count per capsule. once your done with the 30 day supply continue to use it for good but only use one capsule before each meal at that point. by doing this you will always insure good bacteria dominate the gut... if you miss days or go into weeks where you're not using it, no big deal but use it every day until your feeling well again so figure on purchasing at least two bottles throughout all of this... my health food store wants $48.00 per bottle for this shit, so you see buying it off eBay makes a lot of sense... we buy it in the 216 capsule bottle because you end up saving so real money doing so... 20 or more dollars actually... Garden of Life PRIMAL DEFENSE ULTRA Probiotic Formula 90 Caps ULTIMATE DIGESTIVE HEALTH FORMULA! SHIPS WORLDWIDE! you don't have to do this but for what it costs consider using a digestive enzyme supplement before each meal until you feel good again, then you can stop and rely on the natural enzymes found in the foods... you can get a months supply for as low as $6.00-8.00 for a months supply... (edit) definitely begin to use curcumin capsules in place of turmeric... follow instructions on the bottle but don't hesitate to use it more often... papaya and pineapple are good once your out of the woods because they are pretty high in sugar content and right now you want to minimize sugar intake... some form of meditation is definitely a great idea as it will help you chill or be a benefit when it comes to focusing... i prefer mindfulness over standard meditation myself... also always focus on breathing when you can focus, breathing int through your nose and out of your mouth and with each breath focus on breathing from the diaphragm literally raising the area including/above your belly and below your chest as this will eventually become auto pilot breathing and help move lymph fluid more effectively with each breath you take... as you begin to feel better you need to begin to perform aerobic style exercise each day if possible and using the same breathing strategy... always stretch before and after... and last but not least your vitamin d deficiency or insufficiency according to them... 2000 IU's is a fucking joke man... to give you some example of what i'm saying, spending 15-20 minutes under a high output sun box shining on your face you body can produce up to 15,000 IU's on it's own... i was at 10 and was placed on 50,000 IU's every other day and 10,000 IU's on the remaining days in between for 3+ months and my levels rose to about 78 or so and my MD still considers me low... i'm not suggesting that you begin to use higher doses right now but once your inflammation is under control i definitely would recommend AT LEAST 20,000 IU's per day and be retested within 2-3 months... but you really need to ask your MD why he/she isn't placing you on higher doses because you'll never get there unless the summer comes and you get plenty of sunlight in order to properly skin convert... on a really sunny day with 40% or more of your body exposed to sunlight your body can easily produce 40-50,000 IU's during a 4 hour period... i don't understand the logic of only taking 2000 IU's and you need to get them to commit in writing that this is all you need if they refuse to write you a prescription for 50,000 IU capsules... but like i said, first things first and that is to get your inflammation under control... K~~~ Edited by cateyes (02/21/12 01:26 PM)
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Anonymous #1 |
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Awesome thanks. I plan to look through that list more when I have more time. Anyway I guess with the vitamin d, I'm gonna try to get as much sunlight as possible. I'm not sure if you're saying to take that many thousands IU in pills but if so that's pretty crazy, but guess my focus will be to get sunlight. I mean in the past when I had defeciency (which was fixed up back then) that sunlight was the main focus to get 10-15 minutes of sunlight a day. My doctor said besides the vitamin d defeciency depending how it looks in a month or two he would do more blood tests if it was still defecient . I might consider going to a neurologist if I find one that my insurance would cover. I feel it might be worth it, along with the sunlight, vitamin d and change of diet. Neurologist because of weird off balance sensation i sometimes have when sitting or walking.
I actually found an interesting neurologist called mind care where i live which sounds interesting but i am very skeptical of going to a guy like this to mess with my brainwaves lol, so if i go it will definetely be a more professional type place if I go. Anyway hope to get plenty of sunlight these next few days. I could ask my doctor bout a bigger prescription but i guess if i get plenty of sunlight maybe it wouldn't matter so much? It could be my doctor isn't so versed in vitamin d defeciency? Not sure exactly why he prescribed 2,000 IU over tens of thousands. Maybe he thinks the sunlight will make up for it or could be he doesn't get medical info or as much of it from the internet like many of us do. The wealth of information online is pretty amazing to say the least. It should probably be a new standard for doctor's to keep up with medical information on the internet, I certainly would if I was a doctor. Not saying my doctor doesn't though, but it would make sense to be the standard. Edited by Anonymous (02/22/12 02:24 AM)
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Anonymous #1 |
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just thought i should update, but i got a celicacs blood test and that came out negative so no celiacs here. still getting vitamin d and sun when possible. still my body feels a little weak and i feel like i just dont have normal energy for being 23 like im afraid to push my body to do anything but otherwise not so bad, just makes me little worried sometimes. i guess it mite even be two months since i got my vitamin d test, maybe time to check that again soon.
anyway just wanted to update this. peace people Edited by Anonymous (03/17/12 10:56 PM)
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