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OfflinePowerPlants
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Interconnection of Everything
    #15695474 - 01/20/12 10:35 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

These words sprouted within "my" mind and are now in yours. When someone speaks, sound is birthed from within that body and is heard within others. Separation is a myth, I am you and everyone else is me. When the mind looks outward, it sees seemingly separate forms. When it turns within, the connection is revealed. Treat yourself with respect, all of yourself.

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Re: Interconnection of Everything [Re: PowerPlants]
    #15695478 - 01/20/12 10:36 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Damn mirror neurons.  :shakefist:


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Re: Interconnection of Everything [Re: The Phleg] * 1
    #15695748 - 01/21/12 12:06 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Interconnection of Everything [Re: FunkMasterShroom]
    #15695886 - 01/21/12 12:53 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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PowerPlants said:
These words sprouted within "my" mind and are now in yours. When someone speaks, sound is birthed from within that body and is heard within others. Separation is a myth, I am you and everyone else is me. When the mind looks outward, it sees seemingly separate forms. When it turns within, the connection is revealed. Treat yourself with respect, all of yourself.




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Re: Interconnection of Everything [Re: quinn]
    #15695887 - 01/21/12 12:54 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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quinn said:
being extremely unoriginal doesn't actually make you one with everyone :sadyes:




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Re: Interconnection of Everything [Re: quinn]
    #15695944 - 01/21/12 01:20 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Its a good thing then that I don't care about being original. I care only to help. And the realization that separation is a mental idea only, helps to dispel much fear of the "others" and the "world out there".

Besides, how can a wave of the Ocean be original? The Ocean is the Origin, not the wave. For peace to be, this false idea of separateness must go.

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Re: Interconnection of Everything [Re: PowerPlants] * 1
    #15696045 - 01/21/12 02:24 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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PowerPlants said:
These words sprouted within "my" mind and are now in yours. When someone speaks, sound is birthed from within that body and is heard within others. Separation is a myth, I am you and everyone else is me. When the mind looks outward, it sees seemingly separate forms. When it turns within, the connection is revealed. Treat yourself with respect, all of yourself.





If you are me then I now know why I am disgusted with myself much of the time. :wink:


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Re: Interconnection of Everything [Re: Icelander]
    #15696217 - 01/21/12 04:51 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Treat yourself with respect, all of yourself.

sure we are all interconnected but this isn't going to make anyone respect someone else. it's in our nature.



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let's fuel the robots with psilocybin.

cez said:
everyone should smoke dmt for religion.

dustinthewind13 said:
euthanasia and prostitution should be legal and located in the same building.

White Beard said:
if you see the buddha on the road, rape him, then kill him. then rape him again.

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Re: Interconnection of Everything [Re: PowerPlants]
    #15696405 - 01/21/12 07:04 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I would be interested in knowing if there is anything outside of this apparently all encompassing web of unifying connectivity, any candidates ?

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Re: Interconnection of Everything [Re: Icelander]
    #15697287 - 01/21/12 12:34 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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Icelander said:
If you are me then I now know why I am disgusted with myself much of the time. :wink:




Hehe, in reality, you are never disgusted with yourself, only your idea of yourself, which is in the mind. Before this idea of yourself sprouted in the mind, you gave a clear reflection of your true nature, as a child. When you look towards the mind to reveal yourself, you will always be fooled, until you turn the mind inward toward the witness of mind, which is your true essence, your innermost self. The mind is a mirror, outward reflects change, inward reflects peace. Look within, and see if its true, see if the mind becomes still and all the frustration of an ever changing idea of yourself is silenced.

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Re: Interconnection of Everything [Re: tribesman]
    #15697309 - 01/21/12 12:40 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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this false idea of separateness must go.



is that idea so false? Even if it goes does that automatically replace it with Connectedness?

I don't think the Idea of separateness must go persay, It just must develop sotospeak.
The Universe through physical observation -is- that things in the material Universe are Independent, and separate. But through further/deeper examination one begins to see that all these separate pieces are all actually profoundly interconnected, and quite dependent upon everything else to even exist.
But it's not just one or the other, it's then Realizing the Interdependent nature of everything. You cannot experience alternate aspects of -Yourself- without there being some kind of separation/alienation for you to observe the other. Even when looking at your hand, you can distinguish it as separate then the rest of your body, but still connected.

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I would be interested in knowing if there is anything outside of this apparently all encompassing web of unifying connectivity, any candidates ?



Well apparently anything before big-bang, or after the Universe ends, cannot directly effect the Universe in this now (or any moment of it's Now).
So that bags to differ if anything Outside of this reality, can directly effect anything within..

So that means can we even explore anything beyond this Reality?, whether or not there even is something..


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To get to the other side.

"Adapt.
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Accommodate."

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Re: Interconnection of Everything [Re: tribesman] * 1
    #15697353 - 01/21/12 12:53 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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tribesman said:
I would be interested in knowing if there is anything outside of this apparently all encompassing web of unifying connectivity, any candidates ?




I wonder the same thing about inside. Is there anything inside this apparently all encompassing web of connection? The search always comes up empty.

Maybe that's why it can be said, "As within so without."


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Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain

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Re: Interconnection of Everything [Re: FunkMasterShroom]
    #15697381 - 01/21/12 12:59 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

---Even if it goes does that automatically replace it with Connectedness?

Connectedness is always there behind you, separation is in front, in the mind. The waves crash and return to the Ocean.

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Re: Interconnection of Everything [Re: PowerPlants]
    #15697788 - 01/21/12 02:40 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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PowerPlants said:
---Even if it goes does that automatically replace it with Connectedness?

Connectedness is always there behind you, separation is in front, in the mind. The waves crash and return to the Ocean.




And they are coexistent- Interdependent..

But to use a different metaphor.
the Droplet to the Sea.. One and the same, though vastly different, and separate.
The droplet cannot exist without the ocean to have created it, but can the ocean exist without the droplet there to be separate from it, to recognize it, reflect with it, and absorb back into it?


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Why did the chicken cross the road?
To get to the other side.

"Adapt.
Adjust.
Accommodate."

"Professional help is being thought." - Bill Hicks

It would be hilarious... if it wasn't so sad...

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Re: Interconnection of Everything [Re: FunkMasterShroom]
    #15697966 - 01/21/12 03:27 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

---The droplet cannot exist without the ocean to have created it, but can the ocean exist without the droplet there to be separate from it, to recognize it, reflect with it, and absorb back into it?

Ahh very good, absolutely. Without the difference between the droplet and the Sea there could be no knowledge or reflection of its grand existence. It would be unconscious because of the lack of difference. Experience in a 'separate' form is necessary to reflect the Ocean of Being. A small idea of separation and one flows with the Great Ocean, a great idea of separation and one feels secluded and alone. So, we must reflect the Ocean more than we reflect our little droplets in order to perceive the Bigger Picture. Well done.

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Re: Interconnection of Everything [Re: PowerPlants]
    #15698071 - 01/21/12 03:52 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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So, we must reflect the Ocean more than we reflect our little droplets in order to perceive the Bigger Picture.




It's all about degree's of variation.. Like on a radio-dial, and/or a even a volume dial..
On the radio-dial, you must attune just right to get the fullest/clearest signal-
While with the volume, one extreme or the other, it's either too quiet, or too loud- Discordance, and creates too much parallel- one must find just the right variance in volume, to harmonize with their natural accordance to get the fullest experience.


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Why did the chicken cross the road?
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"Adapt.
Adjust.
Accommodate."

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Re: Interconnection of Everything [Re: tribesman]
    #15698290 - 01/21/12 04:44 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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tribesman said:
I would be interested in knowing if there is anything outside of this apparently all encompassing web of unifying connectivity, any candidates ?




A large portion of the universe is forever isolated and explicitly not causally linked to anything we do.  The portion of the universe which we are in is only connected or causally linked to a minority subset of the universe.

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Re: Interconnection of Everything [Re: FunkMasterShroom]
    #15698916 - 01/21/12 07:07 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I didn't even mention causality :shrug:, I suggested something outside and separate from the universe. I had a complete blank page in my head, and didn't mean to infer anything specific.


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Re: Interconnection of Everything [Re: Kickle]
    #15698951 - 01/21/12 07:15 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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Kickle said:
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tribesman said:
I would be interested in knowing if there is anything outside of this apparently all encompassing web of unifying connectivity, any candidates ?




I wonder the same thing about inside. Is there anything inside this apparently all encompassing web of connection? The search always comes up empty.

Maybe that's why it can be said, "As within so without."





I've been thinking a lot about duality lately, and it means different things to different people. To some it's about mind/body, to some, good/evil, others the existing/non-existing, and to some it is about union/separation, I could go on; masculine/feminine, finite/infinite. I have about fifty pages of A4 with all my musings and notes on, mostly it looks like gibberish, but it's more like the working out from a maths problem. Still it's all just speculative and hypothetical.

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Re: Interconnection of Everything [Re: DieCommie]
    #15698963 - 01/21/12 07:17 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

How do you know this Die ?

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