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 madpixies
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 Help with very possible psilocybe cyanescance i.d 
#15408133 - 11/22/11 01:28 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hi Im a noobie on here. Please guys im looking for an i.d on these beauties. I found them today and im almost deadsure they are a positive for psilocybe cyanescence however since im new to cyans and much more familiar with liberty caps i wanted to get a positive i.d from someone who knows cyans! I am in the south of u.k. They are growing on woodchips clustered together, dark brown sporeprint, young caps are darker orange older dryer caps are straw/tan ranging in size from 1cm to 3cm, gills much the same colour as cap except in very old specimens which are dark brown. the caps are very wavy and concave. Stems are about 3cm to 6cm tall and white/buff yellow tan colour and they are bruising blue all over themselves caps and stem. I just dont know how to add the pics of these beauties from my folder on here onto the text page (driving me nuts!!) Please help with adding the pics ? Thankyou for your time 
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 maynardjameskeenan
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Re: Help with very possible psilocybe cyanescance i.d [Re: madpixies]
#15408143 - 11/22/11 01:31 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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The pictures in your gallery are of psilocybe cyanescens.
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madpixies
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Oh great! Thanx for the i.d. just had to make sure and get that final okay! much appreciated...
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maynardjameskeenan
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Re: Help with very possible psilocybe cyanescance i.d [Re: madpixies]
#15408205 - 11/22/11 01:46 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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I would wait for a thumbs up from a trusted identifier before you consume anything.
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madpixies
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Agreed, that would be the smart
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Re: Help with very possible psilocybe cyanescance i.d [Re: madpixies]
#15408280 - 11/22/11 02:02 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yup, you got it! Nice find 
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Ieponumos
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Quote:
maynardjameskeenan said:
I would wait for a thumbs up from a trusted identifier before you consume anything.
Also when dealing with cyans, but sure to spore print ALL OF THEM. Tubarias and Galerinas have been know to confuse and poison.
As for printing, aluminum foil works great IME.
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Re: Help with very possible psilocybe cyanescance i.d [Re: Ieponumos]
#15408489 - 11/22/11 02:50 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sure, but with galerinas and the deadly's surely they dont blue like the psylocybes ? cos these babies are all blue man! 
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madpixies
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Re: Help with very possible psilocybe cyanescance i.d [Re: madpixies]
#15408507 - 11/22/11 02:53 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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@suchen: Thanx man! appreciated, im so excited about this find
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Re: Help with very possible psilocybe cyanescance i.d [Re: madpixies]
#15408530 - 11/22/11 02:57 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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@leponumus: Thats not to say im not being careful, i respect your advice and accept it kindly
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Ieponumos
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Re: Help with very possible psilocybe cyanescance i.d [Re: madpixies]
#15408751 - 11/22/11 03:40 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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madpixies said:
Sure, but with galerinas and the deadly's surely they dont blue like the psylocybes ? cos these babies are all blue man!
You might be surprised how many people still pick others that llike vaguely like them despite the lack of blue bruising and continue mix their batches. If they all bruise blue potently, I wouldn't worry so much.
But if you're picking hundreds it's still not a bad idea to print any iffy ones.
It's only out of sincere care and concern that I say this. Just be safe. That's all I really be sayin'. 
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madpixies
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Re: Help with very possible psilocybe cyanescance i.d [Re: Ieponumos]
#15408851 - 11/22/11 03:57 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey man! I hear ya! and i totally respect what you're saying. I pick many edibles too so i can appreciate just where you're coming from, god forbid you pick a real nasty, GOT TO BE CAREFUL! Thanx again to you for posting and helping me with a safe i.d. (i do realise how important it is to get it right) The exciting thing for me here though is they're really blueing and so im pretty sure its all goooooood! I've been truly blessed have both Liberty's and now very possibly cyans growing on my patch!
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Re: Help with very possible psilocybe cyanescance i.d [Re: Ieponumos]
#15409699 - 11/22/11 06:29 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ieponumos said:
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maynardjameskeenan said:
I would wait for a thumbs up from a trusted identifier before you consume anything.
Also when dealing with cyans, but sure to spore print ALL OF THEM. Tubarias and Galerinas have been know to confuse and poison.
As for printing, aluminum foil works great IME.
Hey Lep. I hope you don't mind me mentioning, just for the sake of other first time posters, that the spore print you posted is NOT a psilocybe print. Rather, it's what to look out for if you think you might have a potentially dangerous look alike.
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Ieponumos
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Re: Help with very possible psilocybe cyanescance i.d [Re: mountainplayer]
#15410376 - 11/22/11 08:36 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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mountainplayer said:
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Ieponumos said:
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maynardjameskeenan said:
I would wait for a thumbs up from a trusted identifier before you consume anything.
Also when dealing with cyans, but sure to spore print ALL OF THEM. Tubarias and Galerinas have been know to confuse and poison.
As for printing, aluminum foil works great IME.
Hey Lep. I hope you don't mind me mentioning, just for the sake of other first time posters, that the spore print you posted is NOT a psilocybe print. Rather, it's what to look out for if you think you might have a potentially dangerous look alike.
I know. It was intended to illustrate to the statement above the photo. I should have clarified that that was not a Psilocybe print, but I figured the OP had the ability to make that distinction on his/her own considering I had just admonished the OP to make such a distinction.
Plus the person has experience picking libs, so he/she claims, so I figured they had experience of the color of Psilocybe spores. EDIT: At least I hope the person would take the time to research and make the distinction.
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As for printing, aluminum foil works great IME.
I was only intending to illustrate the above statement. The print itsef was a Conocybe, possibly, C. rickenii print.
Edited by Ieponumos (11/22/11 08:39 PM)
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Re: Help with very possible psilocybe cyanescance i.d [Re: Ieponumos]
#15410454 - 11/22/11 08:48 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nice patch man, you can also so the spores on top of the caps of some of your shots in situ.
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Ieponumos
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Re: Help with very possible psilocybe cyanescance i.d [Re: Ieponumos]
#15410477 - 11/22/11 08:51 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Now that I think about it, the ability of you to quickly point out that the spore color means   exemplifies how well aluminum foil works for determining spore color.
Anyways, thank you for pointing that out. That's good Karma. 
EDIT: OP, your spore color should be purple, like in your photo. NOT ORANGE. JUST PURPLE.
Edited by Ieponumos (11/22/11 08:56 PM)
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madpixies
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Re: Help with very possible psilocybe cyanescance i.d [Re: Ieponumos]
#15410923 - 11/22/11 10:50 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks guys. So much appreciated, thanks for your guidance, your time and help  . Yes i am very experienced in libs, so i know the psilocybe sporeprint, however i was quite new to the Galerina's and theirs because you clearly dont have the same problems with picking liberties!SO THANKYOU i appreciate you're guys help, your knowledge and input. @Freshshrooms yes! glad you picked up on that, in my pics you can see some lovely black purple spore deposits on the other caps! better than my spore print actually . I've done a load of research this evening on Galerina's and apart from not having met any personally yet im clear on the distinctions: Galerina's orange colour stem, cyans white, galerinas rusty brown spore deposit, cyans purple/brown, galerinas have a veil or tiny evidence of one, cyans not, and galerinas dont bruise blue because of lack of presence of psilocin, cyans bruising blue due to presence of psilocin. Pass the test ? Thanks again to all for their time and help with this, much appreciated, and PLEASE ANYONE IN THE KNOW PLEASE DO COMMENT
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Re: Help with very possible psilocybe cyanescance i.d [Re: madpixies]
#15413080 - 11/23/11 01:23 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey anyone with experience of cyans ?? what is the best methods of drying and preserving them and retaining most of their potency ? also how much of their potency is usually known to be lost on drying ? im guessing they're far more unstable than libs due to their bruising and high psilocin content
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maynardjameskeenan
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Re: Help with very possible psilocybe cyanescance i.d [Re: madpixies]
#15413184 - 11/23/11 01:53 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Use a food dehydrator if at all possible at a low temperature -115F , if not a fan over a 24 hour period should work. Even when dried Ps. cyanescens are still very potent.
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Great! Thankyou
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