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2cp first pshycadelic trip. help.?!
    #15371306 - 11/14/11 08:43 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Okkkaaayyyy.!
Sooo, I was supposed to take acid at disneyland, and my very trusted friend tells me hey we got 2cp insteadd.! Soo I look into it. I've taken acid once buuut nothing happen but I felt alittle high. But anyways that's not the point of this question.! How much should I take.??? Ill be at disneyland all day from start to end and I need to comeback to my parents somewhat funtionable. I blaze and take E a lot. Idk if that'll help at all. I know its probably a stupid idea but

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Re: 2cp first pshycadelic trip. help.?! [Re: LoveSexDrugsLSD]
    #15371335 - 11/14/11 08:47 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

We can't give you dosage advice.  Asking for or giving dosage advice is against the rules.

Here's erowid.  They might be able to tell you. :wink:

So you're taking 2C-P as your first psychedelic?  Brave one, aren't you? :lol:  Have fun.  It's a fairly gentle trip if you don't overdo it, but it lasts like 15 hours. 

Have fun.


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Re: 2cp first pshycadelic trip. help.?! [Re: LoveSexDrugsLSD]
    #15371341 - 11/14/11 08:49 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I'd like to add, if you don't feel it at first, DO NOT take more.  It takes 3 hours for the trip to start coming on.  The biggest mistake people make with this stuff is waiting an hour, and then taking more because they don't feel it.

If you have a sensitive stomach, you will probably puke.  2C-P makes me puke every time.  You will probably get 1-2 hours of nausea/discomfort, and then 15 hours of awesome.


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Re: 2cp first pshycadelic trip. help.?! [Re: BothHands]
    #15371344 - 11/14/11 08:49 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Ahaha brave or stupid, I guess ill find out Wednesday x) ohwell, yeahh, ill look at good dosages. I just don't want a bad trip from to much you know.?

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Re: 2cp first pshycadelic trip. help.?! [Re: LoveSexDrugsLSD]
    #15371356 - 11/14/11 08:51 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Andd sounds like a lot of codine mixed with LSD ahaha one good long puking session then pure joy.!

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Re: 2cp first pshycadelic trip. help.?! [Re: LoveSexDrugsLSD]
    #15371432 - 11/14/11 09:05 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

i love puking, you feel so good afterwards

man, i wanna take 2c-p at disneyland. Im jealous, and you're probably gonna have a really good time lol

good vibez

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Re: 2cp first pshycadelic trip. help.?! [Re: Adolin]
    #15371520 - 11/14/11 09:20 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

That's what's I wann hear right there x) ahah thanks Gresh.

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Re: 2cp first pshycadelic trip. help.?! [Re: LoveSexDrugsLSD]
    #15371985 - 11/14/11 10:46 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

2cp is a really gentle trip on the mind, i dissolved 100mg into 100 ml of demineralized water and took what should of been 20mg if it was evenly dispersed in the liquid, made for a rough first 2 hours but was the best 20 hours of tripping ive ever had, extremely visual but the mindset was alot more controllable than most trips i have taken, it seemed more introspective thoughts would come if encouraged where as i was just thinking holy jesus look at that thing most of the time

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Please don't take what i said as dosage advice it was probably alot larger of a dose than needed dosage advice can be found on erowid though,

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Re: 2cp first pshycadelic trip. help.?! [Re: PoopyGonzales]
    #15374128 - 11/15/11 12:18 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

20 mgs.? That's insane.! Sounds like a bomb time, I think ill need to start off small though ahaha but if all goes as planned its gonna happen tomorrow at disney land. I'm fucking excited. Ill let you guys know if its bomb or bad. Ill also probably right in trip report.

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Re: 2cp first pshycadelic trip. help.?! [Re: LoveSexDrugsLSD]
    #15374204 - 11/15/11 12:45 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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20 mgs.? That's insane.! Sounds like a bomb time, I think ill need to start off small though ahaha but if all goes as planned its gonna happen tomorrow at disney land. I'm fucking excited. Ill let you guys know if its bomb or bad. Ill also probably right in trip report.




20MG actually sounds perfect.
2C-x's are Phenethylamines, and are way less visual than Tryptamines, IME.

I've gone up to 48MG on 2C-i, and had few minor visuals. I get more off of one tab of LSD.


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Re: 2cp first pshycadelic trip. help.?! [Re: ArtieFartie]
    #15374422 - 11/15/11 01:34 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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20MG actually sounds perfect.
2C-x's are Phenethylamines, and are way less visual than Tryptamines, IME.

I've gone up to 48MG on 2C-i, and had few minor visuals. I get more off of one tab of LSD.





This is 2C-P.

You trying to kill him?  The 2C-P dose is much, much, much lower than the 2C-I dose.  That's why dosage advice isn't allowed.  Because if he had taken 20mg after your suggestion that the dose would be "great" he probably would have gone into a 35 hour insane trip from hell with mild cardiotoxicity and extremely uncomfortable vasoconstriction.  Doses like that hospitalize people.


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Re: 2cp first pshycadelic trip. help.?! [Re: ArtieFartie]
    #15374628 - 11/15/11 02:17 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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LoveSexDrugsLSD said:
20 mgs.? That's insane.! Sounds like a bomb time, I think ill need to start off small though ahaha but if all goes as planned its gonna happen tomorrow at disney land. I'm fucking excited. Ill let you guys know if its bomb or bad. Ill also probably right in trip report.




20MG actually sounds perfect.
2C-x's are Phenethylamines, and are way less visual than Tryptamines, IME.

I've gone up to 48MG on 2C-i, and had few minor visuals. I get more off of one tab of LSD.




Yayy someone else who thinks 2C-i isn't as great as people think it is! LOL

I did around 40mg and was disappointed. Don't get me wrong, I guess it was a good time DURING.
WORST headache of my life after I came down, for a good couple of hours.


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Re: 2cp first pshycadelic trip. help.?! [Re: BothHands]
    #15374878 - 11/15/11 05:07 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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20MG actually sounds perfect.
2C-x's are Phenethylamines, and are way less visual than Tryptamines, IME.

I've gone up to 48MG on 2C-i, and had few minor visuals. I get more off of one tab of LSD.





This is 2C-P.

You trying to kill him?  The 2C-P dose is much, much, much lower than the 2C-I dose.  That's why dosage advice isn't allowed.  Because if he had taken 20mg after your suggestion that the dose would be "great" he probably would have gone into a 35 hour insane trip from hell with mild cardiotoxicity and extremely uncomfortable vasoconstriction.  Doses like that hospitalize people.




I'm sorry.
I wasn't suggesting him to do any dose, I was just saying 20MG sounds perfect, for me anyways.

That dose wouldn't kill you, him, or I. I do realize that 2C-P, is the "mother" of all 2C's; but, there's no way in hell that 2C-P is 3x more lethal than all other 2C's, be real.


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Re: 2cp first pshycadelic trip. help.?! [Re: ArtieFartie]
    #15374931 - 11/15/11 05:14 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Three times more lethal?  Easily.  The dose-response curve is so incredibly steep that it's likely much more than 3 times as lethal.  Have you taken 2C-P before?  If it's pure and not degraded, I can guarantee your dose will be half that.

Sure, it won't kill him unless he has some pre-existing problems, but it could very well hospitalize him.  20mg would likely show some moderate to severe cardiotoxicity in a normal person.


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Re: 2cp first pshycadelic trip. help.?! [Re: ArtieFartie]
    #15374962 - 11/15/11 05:19 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Im gonna wait about 20 years before i do ANY of the 2c's. Theres not enough known about them yet to have a real opinion.

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Re: 2cp first pshycadelic trip. help.?! [Re: BothHands]
    #15375012 - 11/15/11 05:25 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Three times more lethal?  Easily.  The dose-response curve is so incredibly steep that it's likely much more than 3 times as lethal.  Have you taken 2C-P before?  If it's pure and not degraded, I can guarantee your dose will be half that.

Sure, it won't kill him unless he has some pre-existing problems, but it could very well hospitalize him.  20mg would likely show some moderate to severe cardiotoxicity in a normal person.




Ah, just did some further research on 2C-P specifically.

The normal dose range I found off of erowid based reports were anywhere from 8-11MG.

I just read one, where the guy took 14MG and had a very intense trip.:eek:

Interesting,
Sorry about bitching about it's potency.
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Re: 2cp first pshycadelic trip. help.?! [Re: ArtieFartie]
    #15375033 - 11/15/11 05:29 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, I went through 500mg of the stuff, and my highest dose was 12mg.  It was a massive massive dose, and I tripped for a good 20 hours.  And the difference between 11mg and 12mg is absolutely staggering.  The dose-response curve is enormous.  One needs to be very careful with this stuff.


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Re: 2cp first pshycadelic trip. help.?! [Re: LoveSexDrugsLSD]
    #15375036 - 11/15/11 05:30 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Ahaha brave or stupid, I guess ill find out Wednesday x) ohwell, yeahh, ill look at good dosages. I just don't want a bad trip from to much you know.?




if you're gonna have a bad trip... it will be because you're taking a heavy psychedelic, for your first time, in a public place, that's packed to the nuts with kids and families and shit, in broad daylight... knowing you have to talk to your parents at some point... :facepalm:


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Re: 2cp first pshycadelic trip. help.?! [Re: LuSiD9]
    #15375041 - 11/15/11 05:31 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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LoveSexDrugsLSD said:
Ahaha brave or stupid, I guess ill find out Wednesday x) ohwell, yeahh, ill look at good dosages. I just don't want a bad trip from to much you know.?




if you're gonna have a bad trip... it will be because you're taking a heavy psychedelic, for your first time, in a public place, that's packed to the nuts with kids and families and shit in broad daylight... knowing you have to talk to your parents at some point... :facepalm:




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Re: 2cp first pshycadelic trip. help.?! [Re: underfliptown]
    #15376307 - 11/15/11 08:37 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Ahahah yeah, but I gotta start somewhere. We picked wednsday cuz we knew it'd be less crowded. It also helps that its winter. I'm not taking aheavy dosage either. Just basic. And ill be gone 10-12 hours so ill hopefully be not as hard hit as it was earlier. So in a sence I think ill be okay. Ahahah and thanks both hands, I was actually really confused for a second there.

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