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President Obama advertises on NORML’s YouTube Channel * 2
    #14865658 - 08/03/11 02:49 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Remember when we were told that “legalization isn’t in the president’s vocabulary?”

Remember when Mr. Obama laughed off a suggestion that marijuana legalization could help the economy?

Remember when he emphatically stated he would not pursue a strategy of decriminalization of marijuana?

Yeah, we do, too.

So imagine our surprise at NORML to find an ad for President Obama’s 2012 re-election campaign nestled in the prime ad spot on our YouTube channel: NORMLtv (http://youtube.com/natlnorml).

What’s the campaign strategy for the marijuana smoker vote, Mr. Obama?  Keeping at the head of the DEA one of Mr. Bush’s administrators?  Maintaining the Bush-era policy of raiding medical marijuana providers?  Escalating numbers of marijuana arrests on your watch?

Or will it just be, “Look, you think I’m bad, imagine what happens if (fill in GOP nominee) wins!  I just want to force pot smokers into costly rehab they don’t need on the threat of prison.  (Fill in GOP nominee) wants to (fill in terrible threat we’re already experiencing now)!”

You want the absolute guaranteed votes of 90% of the 25 million American adults who use cannabis annually in America?

Convince Congress to pass and then you sign Barney Frank and Ron Paul’s Ending Federal Marijuana Prohibition Act.

It doesn’t cost you anything.  Marijuana is still illegal in all fifty states and 99% of all marijuana arrests take place at the state and local level.  It just means marijuana is no longer a federal issue; states are free to set up any marijuana regulations they choose.  The people in marijuana friendly states will support you more and the ones who hate pot still think you’re a secret Muslim agent from Kenya anyway.

Well, I take that back.  Your contributors from Big Pharma might not like you endorsing the competition.

UPDATE:  Apparently, based on comments below, I should’ve explained how BlogAds work. NORML didn’t “accept” advertising from the Obama campaign.  We offer up a piece of screen real estate to the BlogAds company.  They sell advertising packages to third parties, like the Obama campaign, which promise to place their ads on websites matching certain demographics and content keywords.  So we don’t even know who or what is going to appear up there as an ad (within limits; obviously there isn’t going to be a phone sex ad or Klan rally promotion going up there… we can limit certain types of ad content.)

It’s possible that the ad algorithm just saw “within 50,000 on Alexa”, “large youth demo of readers”, and “Congress / House / Senate / Obama”  on our website and automatically placed Obama’s ad there because he wants to reach young politically active people on popular websites.  In fact, I seem to recall some “Marijuana: The Anti-Drug” ads showing up on our BlogTalkRadio page in the early days of NORML SHOW LIVE.  I’ve seen ONDCP ads show up on other pro-marijuana sites.

We’re not a 20th century newspaper; it’s not as if Obama’s campaign team called and said, “Hey, NORML, how about we support you by advertising and you support us by accepting the ad.  The day the ad appeared on NORMLtv was the first time we saw it there and probably just as shocking to the president.

http://blog.norml.org/2011/08/02/president-obama-advertises-on-normls-youtube-channel/

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Re: President Obama advertises on NORML’s YouTube Channel [Re: skatealex2]
    #14865723 - 08/03/11 03:21 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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skatealex2 said:
We’re not a 20th century newspaper; it’s not as if Obama’s campaign team called and said, “Hey, NORML, how about we support you by advertising and you support us by accepting the ad.  The day the ad appeared on NORMLtv was the first time we saw it there and probably just as shocking to the president.




lol

Obama had almost 4 years to "change" this country, honestly I have yet to see anything good come from it.  Not saying he is to blame for everything bad, but you really can't give him much credit for doing good.


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Re: President Obama advertises on NORML’s YouTube Channel [Re: skatealex2]
    #14866086 - 08/03/11 06:59 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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skatealex2 said:
 The day the ad appeared on NORMLtv was the first time we saw it there and probably just as shocking to the president.





This so called "headline" has just voided itself with this statement...

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Re: President Obama advertises on NORML’s YouTube Channel [Re: Sea_Goat]
    #14866098 - 08/03/11 07:04 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Its seems from and outsiders view that he's going to stay president.Because people are afraid of change.It's funny that her hasn't done anything in like 4 years and now he's suddenly pulling out all the stops and really trying to get your vote.

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Re: President Obama advertises on NORML’s YouTube Channel [Re: hecticpicnic]
    #14866208 - 08/03/11 07:51 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

He may legalize it in his second term- maybe  Presidents ususally do "unpopular" things in their second term.

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Re: President Obama advertises on NORML’s YouTube Channel [Re: 2jew4u]
    #14866607 - 08/03/11 10:23 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

It actually kinda pisses me off that Obama or his campaign organizers or whoever actually had the nerve to try to boost his campaign on advertise on the Youtube page of an organization whose cause he basically told to fuck off.


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He may legalize it in his second term- maybe  Presidents ususally do "unpopular" things in their second term.




[Well first, the President can't just legalize it by himself, although there are a lot of things he could do to help like not raiding medical marijuana dispensaries, and state-sponsored legalization regimes should any states legalize it in November.]

But this is probably what he wants legalization voters to think - then he'll just screw them over again once he's reelected.  In his defense, even if he wanted(s) to legalize marijuana it would be really hard for him to do so.  He probably wouldn't want to be known as the first black President AND the President that helped marijuana get legalized.  That would reinforce racial stereotypes.  But still...I wouldn't trust this guy to be of any help in any way in terms of legalizing marijuana, now or in the next 4 years.


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Re: President Obama advertises on NORML’s YouTube Channel [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #14866700 - 08/03/11 10:56 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Or how about Ron Paul or Gary Johnson, you know people who have actually supported, and created legislation to get cannabis legalized?  You know, the people who aren't about trying to being popular and win votes.  Instead of trying to sink to the lowest common denominator like everyone else; they actually have their own beliefs.


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Re: President Obama advertises on NORML’s YouTube Channel [Re: MidRange]
    #14866741 - 08/03/11 11:10 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Agreed


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Re: President Obama advertises on NORML’s YouTube Channel [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #14867227 - 08/03/11 01:24 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Fuck him and everyone else who thought he was going to actually change shit and voted for him because he is half black and muslim. He is just a shit puppet just like the (recent)past and future presidents. If you think that he actually is at the top of the command than you are grossly unaware of how things run.

He can't just one day say,"ok I think I will legalize marijuana." We have treaties with the U.N and countless others that disable him from just signing a few bills and thats that the deed is done. But he definitly could make things alot better which he failed to do which makes him a liar because he said he would stop the raids on mmj dispensaries.

Vote Ron Paul or Ralph Nader if he decides to give it another go, these brave individuals WILL bring change!

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Re: President Obama advertises on NORML’s YouTube Channel [Re: skatealex2]
    #14867254 - 08/03/11 01:31 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Perhaps, as with gay marriage, his position is "evolving."


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Re: President Obama advertises on NORML’s YouTube Channel [Re: Silversoul]
    #14867277 - 08/03/11 01:36 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah.  It evolves into whatever he thinks will get him votes.  How's that Guantanamo Bay thing working out for ya'?


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Re: President Obama advertises on NORML’s YouTube Channel [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14867300 - 08/03/11 01:42 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Silversoul said:
Perhaps, as with gay marriage, his position is "evolving."




I think Obama's gone too far already. Once you wage war on medical marijuana and turn down decriminalization I don't think you can really get much worse on the topic. :shrug:

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Re: President Obama advertises on NORML’s YouTube Channel [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14867311 - 08/03/11 01:45 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Fucking cock tease! I was all excited about tha headline n u just went n kicked me in the balls. Interesting news but false advertising.

Also seeing as how most dont know how site ads are placed many might just take as his support in NORML. He may feel some extra political pressure to update his position in the matter: heres ta hoping  :bigjoint:

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Re: President Obama advertises on NORML’s YouTube Channel [Re: 2jew4u]
    #14867557 - 08/03/11 02:39 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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He may legalize it in his second term- maybe  Presidents ususally do "unpopular" things in their second term.




This is true in a sense, but the president is only a small part in the legalization of a drug. Congress comes first, its hard as hell to get both the house and senate to agree to legalizing marijuana, but then they have to get him to sign it... and if he vetoes it, its probably going to die.

But they definitely do more unpopular things in the second term considering there is no 3rd term..

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Re: President Obama advertises on NORML’s YouTube Channel [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14867779 - 08/03/11 03:25 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Yeah.  It evolves into whatever he thinks will get him votes.  How's that Guantanamo Bay thing working out for ya'?




That is true, he still lets them send People on vacation there,I hear the waves are killer for water boarding, and a bonus of the electrically  charged atmosphere who would complain, kinda like buying a time share, few hours of torture and u get a vacation-

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Re: President Obama advertises on NORML’s YouTube Channel [Re: 2jew4u]
    #14867875 - 08/03/11 03:45 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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[I hear the waves are killer for water boarding, and a bonus of the electrically  charged atmosphere who would complain, kinda like buying a time share, few hours of torture and u get a vacation-




:laugh2:


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Re: President Obama advertises on NORML’s YouTube Channel [Re: Uzziel]
    #14868014 - 08/03/11 04:17 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Uzziel said:
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2jew4u said:
He may legalize it in his second term- maybe  Presidents ususally do "unpopular" things in their second term.




This is true in a sense, but the president is only a small part in the legalization of a drug. Congress comes first, its hard as hell to get both the house and senate to agree to legalizing marijuana, but then they have to get him to sign it... and if he vetoes it, its probably going to die.

But they definitely do more unpopular things in the second term considering there is no 3rd term..




I don't see it as something that he would do in his 2nd term; it hasn't been a pet project of his. If anything, he would do something related to healthcare. Also, not to be cynical, but he only cares about votes. Drug law reform is something that is always on the backburner as well, so it is never really touched. We are in the middle of a financial crisis so politicians aren't even thinking about the ethics of sending someone to jail for smoking a plant.

Don't expect marijuana reform to come from the president either: anyone who gets that far can't do much and will be conservative on the issue because they would get crucified by the media.

Marijuana reform first comes from the cities (lowest enforcement), then county, then the state. Once a threshold is reached, then the government will approve. If you want to enact change, vote local.


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