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why is it I cant contemplate time or anything with numbers when I'm trippin?
    #14804026 - 07/21/11 04:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Just wondering if anyone might be able to tell me why it is I cant contemplate time or numbers when im trippin...? This only happens when im trippin really hard. When I am, I'll try to think "what time is it?" and I never get that answer, and even if a sober person told me, I wouldn't be able to even understand it...Its almost as if im turned into an animal, the only difference is I dont go around attacking shit and trying to eat it, and i dont shit and piss in the floor lol. But what Im sayin is animals have no sense of time, and definitely cant count...IDK, maybe im just nuts and that's just me trippin...? Do any of you experience the same thing? thanks

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    #14804035 - 07/21/11 04:05 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: why is it I cant contemplate time or anything with numbers when I'm trippin? [Re: Mr.FunGuy]
    #14804072 - 07/21/11 04:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

If I'm having a good Level 4-5, I can look at my clock, and I swear by it, what seems like 1 or 2 hours will go by, and it's still the same time.


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Re: why is it I cant contemplate time or anything with numbers when I'm trippin? [Re: Earth Child]
    #14804154 - 07/21/11 04:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

LOL @ that pizza shit...SO TRUE...I was gonna give some examples like money, but figured you would get what I meant. at least im not crazy and that effect is shared. About the time goin slow thing...thats kinda different than what I was talkin about but is also soo true...I think its just cuz you have soo many thoughts and shit comin at you at once that it takes forever to process it all, therefore making time seem really slow...Just a thought...

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Re: why is it I cant contemplate time or anything with numbers when I'm trippin? [Re: Mr.FunGuy]
    #14804176 - 07/21/11 04:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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LOL @ that pizza shit...SO TRUE...I was gonna give some examples like money, but figured you would get what I meant. at least im not crazy and that effect is shared. About the time goin slow thing...thats kinda different than what I was talkin about but is also soo true...I think its just cuz you have soo many thoughts and shit comin at you at once that it takes forever to process it all, therefore making time seem really slow...Just a thought...



I feel what you're saying though man. I think it's because things like money and the man made concept of time ('o-clock) are so unnatural and illusions, ya know?

You're in touch with something deep.. a completely natural spiritual experience during a trip.. you know, like the true meaning of existence, and your body and mind just have no interest in dealing with things of that sort.


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Re: why is it I cant contemplate time or anything with numbers when I'm trippin? [Re: Mr.FunGuy]
    #14804201 - 07/21/11 04:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I know exactly what you mean...sometimes I can even do numbers, but then as soon as I relate them with time all comprehension goes out the window.  This is a roughly translated internal dialogue from the other day, tripping on 3 hits:


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Okay how long have I been tripping? I started at 1:45.  It's now...umm...I think that says 4:00.  So that's like...fuck.  Okay let's make it 2:00.  2:00-4:00 is..uhmm...okay, so 4-2 is 2.  Shit, but what does that have to do with the time?  Oh yeah its the same as if you just use numbers.  Okay so I've been tripping...uhmmm....like two hours.





Lol...this was a serious dilemma at the time.  I'm pretty sure it took me several minutes to get it worked out.

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Re: why is it I cant contemplate time or anything with numbers when I'm trippin? [Re: tokinman21]
    #14804349 - 07/21/11 05:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

well my vision gets SOOOO fuckin blurry, I could only read the time on a flavor flav clock lol...hell, it would probably take big ben for my googly eyed ass to read it....the main reason I say this is cuz Im always tryin too look at my cell phone screen and see the time...IMPOSSIBLE..I'll be tryin to hold that shit far as I can away from my face lol..good shit tho..fuck time

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Re: why is it I cant contemplate time or anything with numbers when I'm trippin? [Re: Mr.FunGuy]
    #14804477 - 07/21/11 05:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You become semi-retarded on these drugs.  It's not just numbers and time that become distorted concepts, its all of your thought processes.  The real bitch rears her ugly head when you mistake your befuddled and nonsensical thoughts for novel and significant findings.  Separating the shit from shinola is quite a monumental task for some, even when the trip wears off.


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Re: why is it I cant contemplate time or anything with numbers when I'm trippin? [Re: Mr.FunGuy]
    #14804965 - 07/21/11 07:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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well my vision gets SOOOO fuckin blurry, I could only read the time on a flavor flav clock lol




This is when you know you're :trippnballs:


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    #14805145 - 07/21/11 07:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: why is it I cant contemplate time or anything with numbers when I'm trippin? [Re: AnonymousRabbit]
    #14805209 - 07/21/11 08:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I have the same problem... time distortion is very common on psychedelics.

I've had a few heart jolting moments on high doses when I looked at the clock, looked away, experienced a thought that seemed to last for eternity, looked back at the clock and realized only one minute had gone by. Then the realization hits that I dosed an hour ago and I still have a loooooooong trip ahead of me.

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Re: why is it I cant contemplate time or anything with numbers when I'm trippin? [Re: Subconscious]
    #14805227 - 07/21/11 08:05 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Time exists because of perception.

Drugs change perception.

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Re: why is it I cant contemplate time or anything with numbers when I'm trippin? [Re: Joolz]
    #14805275 - 07/21/11 08:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Time exists because of perception.

Drugs change perception.

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I disagree.

Time is relative to an individuals perception, but the individuals perception isn't what causes time to "exist" in the first place.

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Re: why is it I cant contemplate time or anything with numbers when I'm trippin? [Re: Joolz]
    #14805321 - 07/21/11 08:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Time exists because of perception.

Drugs change perception.

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Short and sweet.  I'd say you solved this case with impressive clarity and brevity.  You're going places, son.

@subconscious, the drugs distorted the perception of time from his typical consensus reality standpoint.


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Re: why is it I cant contemplate time or anything with numbers when I'm trippin? [Re: joemolloy]
    #14805365 - 07/21/11 08:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Time only exists because we have a little clock in our head that goes "tick, tick, tick". Luckily, our brains are smart enough to find that the "tick" in our head also lines up with the planets moving, which causes days and seasons and the whole calender and "time" as we have it today.

Time definitely only exists because we perceive it though. We, as humans, define everything. So we of course are going to define the planets and stars and day and night and the difference between one moment in history and another. So, we developed the clock.

Then you take the drugs and it all means nothing. Bahahahahhaah! YES PLEASE.


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Re: why is it I cant contemplate time or anything with numbers when I'm trippin? [Re: Joolz]
    #14805475 - 07/21/11 08:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Time only exists because we have a little clock in our head that goes "tick, tick, tick". Luckily, our brains are smart enough to find that the "tick" in our head also lines up with the planets moving, which causes days and seasons and the whole calender and "time" as we have it today.

Time definitely only exists because we perceive it though. We, as humans, define everything. So we of course are going to define the planets and stars and day and night and the difference between one moment in history and another. So, we developed the clock.

Then you take the drugs and it all means nothing. Bahahahahhaah! YES PLEASE.




We developed the clock as a futile way of measuring time. I agree time is an amorphous, strange thing... but I believe it is still something that exists outside of our perception.

Things happen in a certain order... if I die today, I personally will stop perceiving time, but all evidence suggests that the world is going to continue moving forward.

Evidence suggests that things happened on earth millions of years before I was even born, therefor time was in existence before I ever perceived it.

I understand what you're trying to say... and I agree to a certain extent. But time is a "real" thing, even if human perception of it may be very wonky to say the least.

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Re: why is it I cant contemplate time or anything with numbers when I'm trippin? [Re: Subconscious]
    #14805490 - 07/21/11 09:02 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Eh, I guess, but at the same time something was there to perceive time, so time existed. Time exists in everyone's mind, just understand that its in your brain as a little clock that ticks along. Yes, things happen before and after our lifetime, but there is also something there perceiving time, whether it was human or not.

So I guess we can agree on it technically existing but not existing? Idk, whatever.

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Re: why is it I cant contemplate time or anything with numbers when I'm trippin? [Re: Subconscious]
    #14805901 - 07/21/11 10:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Quote:

Joolz said:
Time only exists because we have a little clock in our head that goes "tick, tick, tick". Luckily, our brains are smart enough to find that the "tick" in our head also lines up with the planets moving, which causes days and seasons and the whole calender and "time" as we have it today.

Time definitely only exists because we perceive it though. We, as humans, define everything. So we of course are going to define the planets and stars and day and night and the difference between one moment in history and another. So, we developed the clock.

Then you take the drugs and it all means nothing. Bahahahahhaah! YES PLEASE.




We developed the clock as a futile way of measuring time. I agree time is an amorphous, strange thing... but I believe it is still something that exists outside of our perception.

Things happen in a certain order... if I die today, I personally will stop perceiving time, but all evidence suggests that the world is going to continue moving forward.

Evidence suggests that things happened on earth millions of years before I was even born, therefor time was in existence before I ever perceived it.

I understand what you're trying to say... and I agree to a certain extent. But time is a "real" thing, even if human perception of it may be very wonky to say the least.




Ok,so his point still stands really. Time doesn't exist because of perception, but it's our only way of experiencing it, and because these drugs alter perception, your experience of time will also be altered.

Also, this " Things happen in a certain order... if I die today, I personally will stop perceiving time, but all evidence suggests that the world is going to continue moving forward. " is not really a good argument because it's basically blind assumption.



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Re: why is it I cant contemplate time or anything with numbers when I'm trippin? [Re: Racinette]
    #14805950 - 07/21/11 10:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I believe time is something far beyond human logic. I don't think we'll truly ever understand time.


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Re: why is it I cant contemplate time or anything with numbers when I'm trippin? [Re: Mr.FunGuy]
    #14807123 - 07/22/11 06:22 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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But what Im sayin is animals have no sense of time, and definitely cant count



Yes, they do and yes they can. First off if you ever had a dog and have given him food on a regular schedule he will expect his food at that time and he will wine if your late. The same can be said if you walk him at certain times. Now dolphins and monkeys have been trained to count and even do basic math as well as various other things. Don't make preposterous statements about the intelligence of animals because you obviously have no idea what your talking about.


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