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Invisiblespud
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the dream herb (Calea zacatechichi)
    #1457000 - 04/14/03 12:21 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

im thinking about ordering some cuz its sooooooooooooo damn cheap and it would be cool to control when you have lucid dreams. only thing is i dont really know if i should believe that it works. does anyone have any experience with Calea zacatechichi? if so did it work?

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Re: the dream herb (Calea zacatechichi) [Re: spud]
    #1457664 - 04/14/03 04:25 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

What about maybe using calea as an ayahuaska admixture? If it's true that you are on DMT while in REM sleep and calea has an effect on REM sleep it shouldnt be such a bad combo.

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Re: the dream herb (Calea zacatechichi) [Re: psychopsilocyber]
    #1457875 - 04/14/03 05:52 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

interesting psycho... your mckenna audio library link doesn't work dude.

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Re: the dream herb (Calea zacatechichi) [Re: Dogomush]
    #1458052 - 04/14/03 07:04 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

psycho, The only problem with that is...you most likely won't fall asleep, I know i can't while on any hallucinogens, even syrian rue. Better dreaming comes with practice, Calea can help. Salvia has also made me have more intense dreams.

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Re: the dream herb (Calea zacatechichi) [Re: CockyMandrill]
    #1458381 - 04/14/03 08:30 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Sleeping with a Nicotine patch on makes me have weird vivid dreams.


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Re: the dream herb (Calea zacatechichi) [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1458409 - 04/14/03 08:37 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

you can sleep with that thing on i thought it made it hard to sleep? thats what the comercials where the chick kicks the giant cigaretteass says. also the big cig is smoking a cig doesnt that make him a canibal or something? peace

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Re: the dream herb (Calea zacatechichi) [Re: blaze2]
    #1458979 - 04/14/03 11:24 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

you want fucked up dreams? Try malaria pills. Careful, though, because they might make you really depressed and you might commit suicide. That's why so many backpackers kill themselves when they travel in tropical countries... and they say acid is dangerous cause you might think you can fly and jump off a cliff...

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Re: the dream herb (Calea zacatechichi) [Re: Dogomush]
    #1459201 - 04/15/03 01:21 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

did you see that 60minutes on larium(malaria drug). with the woman that just randomly started stripping on a safari in the truck with the guide she was married by the way. the first thing the guide said wasn't "hey nice knockers" it was "is she on larium?" and they say that it isnt dangerous. crazy pharm. companys. anyways never take larium there are better alternitives to it. with less chance of crazyness. peace

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P.S. larium is the drug the military gave to everyone before shipping out up until the current conflict in iraq. several marines killed their wives from going crazy on this drug. if the military found it unsafe then you know that it is bad.


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"peace is not maintained through force it is acheived through intelligence." Albert Einstein

"Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one."
Thomas Jefferson

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." --Thomas Jefferson

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Invisiblepsychopsilocyber
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Re: the dream herb (Calea zacatechichi) [Re: CockyMandrill]
    #1460964 - 04/15/03 03:58 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

>you most likely won't fall asleep
That wasn't my point, my point was if DMT is what you are on while naturally dreaming, and calea somehow effects this, maybe it will effect the DMT during a waking trip also.

Dogomush: My Mckenna library works just fine, cut and paste if it doesnt work for you.

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