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Master Shake
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Motionless Electronic Generator(MEG)

#14136438 - 03/17/11 12:08 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Check out this new technology being created by this Filipino inventor, Ismael Aviso.

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here's a link to the web site if you would like to read more about this

http://dimensionalbliss.com/2011/03/04/aviso-solid-state-generator-makes-hundreds-of-watts/

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Carl: Heh, how about you crack it open with your teeth, and see if it is?
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DieCommie

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Re: Motionless Electronic Generator(MEG)

[Re: Master Shake]
#14136528 - 03/17/11 12:26 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Investor/inventor? lol, At least he will be among the investors that get ripped of.

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Re: Motionless Electronic Generator(MEG)

[Re: DieCommie]
#14136563 - 03/17/11 12:32 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

133% efficiency violates the laws of thermodynamics as we know them. Free energy IS IMPOSSIBLE. Show me the math behind this and I'd be more apt to believe it.

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Re: Motionless Electronic Generator(MEG)

[Re: SS32]
#14136589 - 03/17/11 12:38 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Here is the math,

$Formula: 0$

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Master Shake
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Re: Motionless Electronic Generator(MEG)

[Re: SS32]
#14136594 - 03/17/11 12:39 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Ive been trying to find somewhere that can tell me how it all works aswell, but I doubt I would be able to find it, cause as you heard the in video when he said "the classified parts" im asuming he doesnt want to many people to know how it all works. At least not yet any ways..

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SS32 said:
Show me the math behind this and I'd be more apt to believe it.

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Master Shake: Hark! The first firefly of the summer solstice! Fetch my royal net! Oh. Hey.
Carl: Yeah.
Master Shake: You dropped something.
Carl: Eh, that's okay. I don't need it anymore.
Master Shake: What if it's a golden egg?
Carl: Heh, how about you crack it open with your teeth, and see if it is?
Master Shake: (chomps) Ugh, it's not!
Carl: (laughs) Sucker.

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Master Shake
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Re: Motionless Electronic Generator(MEG)

[Re: SS32]
#14136613 - 03/17/11 12:44 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

http://peswiki.com/index.php/PowerPedia:Motionless_Electrical_Generator

this link takes it further and more indepth. maybe this will give you the information your looking for.

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Master Shake: Hark! The first firefly of the summer solstice! Fetch my royal net! Oh. Hey.
Carl: Yeah.
Master Shake: You dropped something.
Carl: Eh, that's okay. I don't need it anymore.
Master Shake: What if it's a golden egg?
Carl: Heh, how about you crack it open with your teeth, and see if it is?
Master Shake: (chomps) Ugh, it's not!
Carl: (laughs) Sucker.

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Re: Motionless Electronic Generator(MEG)

[Re: Master Shake]
#14136639 - 03/17/11 12:52 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

show me the apparatus and i'll tell you if it works. 133% efficiency sounds like bs.

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Re: Motionless Electronic Generator(MEG)

[Re: Master Shake]
#14136640 - 03/17/11 12:52 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Ehhh it still doesn't do a very good job of explaining the mechanics behind it, but from what I can gather, it sounds like it uses a magnetic field to induce current and a current to induce the magnetic field. The grammar is poor and there are numerous spelling errors as well, which gives little credence to what they're saying. The fact of the matter is perpetual motion machines do not exist.

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Did he dream about dragons? Did he dream about deer? Did he whisper he names of friends who were near?
What songs did they play, and how far away? Why did he whisper, why did she scream?
What does the sound of a screen door mean?
Who talks on the hill? Who goes to the cellar, can you feel the chill? Where does the river, when will the wind?
How far are the mountains? Where do they end? Why would the church?
Did the service begin? Tell me who died, and tell me who cried.
Help me hide in the skin of a deer, my zippered-up bag in the mouth of a stag so swiftly I go through rows of does,
it flows, it flows, it flows, it flows all over the hill where the green grass grows.

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dummy
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Re: Motionless Electronic Generator(MEG)

[Re: SS32]
#14136645 - 03/17/11 12:53 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

but if that was the case not only would it have to be a transient process, given e&m theory as we know it, but it also wouldn't fucking work. lol

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Re: Motionless Electronic Generator(MEG)

[Re: dummy]
#14136657 - 03/17/11 12:56 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Even if it did work, there is always resistance and resistance means that efficiency greater than 1 is impossible. Even an idealized process produces an efficiency of 1.0

Efficiency = output / input

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Did he dream about dragons? Did he dream about deer? Did he whisper he names of friends who were near?
What songs did they play, and how far away? Why did he whisper, why did she scream?
What does the sound of a screen door mean?
Who talks on the hill? Who goes to the cellar, can you feel the chill? Where does the river, when will the wind?
How far are the mountains? Where do they end? Why would the church?
Did the service begin? Tell me who died, and tell me who cried.
Help me hide in the skin of a deer, my zippered-up bag in the mouth of a stag so swiftly I go through rows of does,
it flows, it flows, it flows, it flows all over the hill where the green grass grows.

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Master Shake
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Re: Motionless Electronic Generator(MEG)

[Re: dummy]
#14136669 - 03/17/11 12:59 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Plea

Quote:

dummy said:
but if that was the case not only would it have to be a transient process, given e&m theory as we know it, but it also wouldn't fucking work. lol

Could you please give me an example of a Transient Process? And how could it not work?

Im not a physicist, I just think (if it is real) that this is really interesting technology.

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Master Shake: Hark! The first firefly of the summer solstice! Fetch my royal net! Oh. Hey.
Carl: Yeah.
Master Shake: You dropped something.
Carl: Eh, that's okay. I don't need it anymore.
Master Shake: What if it's a golden egg?
Carl: Heh, how about you crack it open with your teeth, and see if it is?
Master Shake: (chomps) Ugh, it's not!
Carl: (laughs) Sucker.

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Re: Motionless Electronic Generator(MEG)

[Re: Master Shake]
#14136702 - 03/17/11 01:06 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

A transient process is one where one or more variables are changing with time. Think of a process where the contents inside the boundaries are heating up at an exponential rate. But what I think he was saying is that using an electric field to induce a magnetic field and visa versa accomplishes nothing.

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Did he dream about dragons? Did he dream about deer? Did he whisper he names of friends who were near?
What songs did they play, and how far away? Why did he whisper, why did she scream?
What does the sound of a screen door mean?
Who talks on the hill? Who goes to the cellar, can you feel the chill? Where does the river, when will the wind?
How far are the mountains? Where do they end? Why would the church?
Did the service begin? Tell me who died, and tell me who cried.
Help me hide in the skin of a deer, my zippered-up bag in the mouth of a stag so swiftly I go through rows of does,
it flows, it flows, it flows, it flows all over the hill where the green grass grows.

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dummy
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Re: Motionless Electronic Generator(MEG)

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#14136732 - 03/17/11 01:13 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

i'm saying that to induce an electric current in a conductor you need the magnet to move. thats what current e&m theory says. thats why generators have rotors (they spin magnets about stationary coils of conductive wires or vice versa.) that movement means the process is transient because the relative position of the generator's components changes in time.

what this guy is talking about; inducing current via magnet and using that current to enduce a magnetic flux would not work, as someone stated before me, due to resistance.

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Master Shake
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Re: Motionless Electronic Generator(MEG)

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#14136838 - 03/17/11 01:37 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

How does the Tesla Coil work? wasnt it able to power lights in the near by city where he was working on the massive Coil, with out cords?
And could the Tesla coil be considered "Free Energy"

Sorry for so many question, I just want to have a better understanding of this stuff.

thanks.

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Master Shake: Hark! The first firefly of the summer solstice! Fetch my royal net! Oh. Hey.
Carl: Yeah.
Master Shake: You dropped something.
Carl: Eh, that's okay. I don't need it anymore.
Master Shake: What if it's a golden egg?
Carl: Heh, how about you crack it open with your teeth, and see if it is?
Master Shake: (chomps) Ugh, it's not!
Carl: (laughs) Sucker.

EVERYTHING I POST IS FICTION

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unknown1123
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Re: Motionless Electronic Generator(MEG)

[Re: Master Shake]
#14136918 - 03/17/11 01:52 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

:popcorn:

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Re: Motionless Electronic Generator(MEG)

[Re: Master Shake]
#14136930 - 03/17/11 01:55 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Master Shake said:
How does the Tesla Coil work? wasnt it able to power lights in the near by city where he was working on the massive Coil, with out cords?
And could the Tesla coil be considered "Free Energy"

Sorry for so many question, I just want to have a better understanding of this stuff.

thanks.

Energy transmitted wirelessy is no where near free energy. The energy still has to be produced in the firstplace.

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Re: Motionless Electronic Generator(MEG)

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#14136962 - 03/17/11 02:06 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

BeverageFace said:
Energy transmitted wirelessy is no where near free energy. The energy still has to be produced in the firstplace.

ok. so how does the tesla coil work?

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Master Shake: Hark! The first firefly of the summer solstice! Fetch my royal net! Oh. Hey.
Carl: Yeah.
Master Shake: You dropped something.
Carl: Eh, that's okay. I don't need it anymore.
Master Shake: What if it's a golden egg?
Carl: Heh, how about you crack it open with your teeth, and see if it is?
Master Shake: (chomps) Ugh, it's not!
Carl: (laughs) Sucker.

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Re: Motionless Electronic Generator(MEG)

[Re: Master Shake]
#14136978 - 03/17/11 02:09 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Master Shake said:Im not a physicist, I just think (if it is real) that this is really interesting technology.

If by interesting you mean "Changes the laws of physics as well as revolutionizes the way humans do everything", then yes, it would be interesting.

It's not though. It's old news. Perpetual motion ideas (and the scams that go along with them) have been around since people have been building machines more complicated than wheelbarrows.

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Re: Motionless Electronic Generator(MEG)

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#14137004 - 03/17/11 02:15 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

SS32 said:
A transient process is one where one or more variables are changing with time. Think of a process where the contents inside the boundaries are heating up at an exponential rate. But what I think he was saying is that using an electric field to induce a magnetic field and visa versa accomplishes nothing.

So its basically it is generating the same amount of energy as it is using?

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Re: Motionless Electronic Generator(MEG)

[Re: Master Shake]
#14137006 - 03/17/11 02:15 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Master Shake said:
Quote:

BeverageFace said:
Energy transmitted wirelessy is no where near free energy. The energy still has to be produced in the firstplace.

ok. so how does the tesla coil work?

through capacitors and mass energy release 60hz--80hz??
u still need a power source

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