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OfflineOregonChronic
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Drying Cubensis Fat Wet Stems
    #14054856 - 03/02/11 02:04 PM (13 years, 20 days ago)

Ive picked and dried cyanescens and they dried pretty quick but drying cubensis is a bitch compared to cyans. The big fat stemmed ones take forever to dry and the stems almost stay wet for more than a few days. I even ripped the stem open on one i picked lastnight so it would dry quicker and it is drying WAY quicker.

What should i do with a cubensi thats been under the fan for 2-3 days and the stem is still clearly wet. Should i cut a slit in the stem to dry it quicker? Or just put them in a desiccant chamber while that wet?


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Re: Drying Cubensis Fat Wet Stems [Re: OregonChronic]
    #14054891 - 03/02/11 02:12 PM (13 years, 20 days ago)

Does cutting the stems do any harm? I sliced my last grow in small spaghetti pieces, looks better and drys fast, not sure if it was a good idea but i don't see a way that could harm them.


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Re: Drying Cubensis Fat Wet Stems [Re: Odd]
    #14054933 - 03/02/11 02:21 PM (13 years, 20 days ago)

Split stems in half to dry faster. Large caps can also be cut in half or fourths to make them smaller.
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Re: Drying Cubensis Fat Wet Stems [Re: Odd]
    #14054984 - 03/02/11 02:28 PM (13 years, 20 days ago)

Well the most it would do is oxidize the psilocin making it stain really blue and most likely less potent the more blue it goes...

I cut the wet ass stem open on one of them and it was DARK blue on the inside of the stem and wet. The stems are taking forever to dry just under a fan. I think i might slit all the stems open so they dry quicker. Thnx RR :super:

What could i use as a desiccant? Other than silica gel packs? I remember reading somewhere someone baked epsom salt in the oven to dry it out and use it as a desiccant?

Will that work or is there any other ghetto ways of dessicanting?


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Re: Drying Cubensis Fat Wet Stems [Re: OregonChronic]
    #14055062 - 03/02/11 02:41 PM (13 years, 20 days ago)

There's a few different types of desiccant, like activated clay, calcium chloride, and calcium sulfate (gypsum) too, actually, but silica gel is probably the easiest to find and use for your purposes.

Why don't you want to use the silica gel packets?

If I were you, i'd invest in a decent dehydrator. Or two. You really can't go wrong if you intend on keeping with this hobby. Just my :twocents:


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Re: Drying Cubensis Fat Wet Stems [Re: OregonChronic]
    #14055363 - 03/02/11 03:41 PM (13 years, 20 days ago)

a hot lightbulb and a pc fan, with a screen suspende over a pan of silica cat litter.
rig it all up inside an old tub or cardboard box. i did it that way untill i found a
cheap dehydrator at salvation army.

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Re: Drying Cubensis Fat Wet Stems [Re: Fungal growth]
    #14055646 - 03/02/11 04:39 PM (13 years, 20 days ago)

Can i use this silica gel desiccant called "Cannette Sorb-It" in an airtight container? Thats my shirt threads its sitting on to give a size comparison

There is tiny tiny holes in the top to let air/moisture in but the holes seem to small...


Can i just put this thing in the bottom of a mason jar and put the mushrooms in and seal and expect it to suck the moisture out?

How exactly "airtight" does the container have to be? How long would i have to leave in the desiccant chamber?


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Re: Drying Cubensis Fat Wet Stems [Re: OregonChronic]
    #14056203 - 03/02/11 06:18 PM (13 years, 20 days ago)

if you have about 100 of them maybe.
sad, i know, but i've gone through the shoe department at wal-mart
taking the little silica packets out of the shoeboxes.
but really, you can get a bucket of the same stuff in the form of
cat litter for about $10. it has color indicating beads and can be regenerated in an oven
when the blue beads turn pink.

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Re: Drying Cubensis Fat Wet Stems [Re: Fungal growth]
    #14056220 - 03/02/11 06:22 PM (13 years, 20 days ago)

Are you in the U.S.?  If so they sell DAMP RID at all home depot's, and lowes, and also in most wal marts, publix carries it, shit it's everywhere.  Plus it's cheap and effective as hell.  Otherwise get a food dehydrator at wally world or sears....Also if it's not near your grow area, a space heater behind the small fan will increase drying dramatically, if used carefully.  I found this out inadvertently while heating the grow room during the winter.


And for fuck's sake quit pillaging shoe boxes


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Re: Drying Cubensis Fat Wet Stems [Re: Harold Hole]
    #14056261 - 03/02/11 06:30 PM (13 years, 20 days ago)

damp rid can't be regenerated like silica and drierite therefore damp-rid eats my balls.
but yeah, some sort of heat source behind a fan is basically a ghetto dehydrator
and works.

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Re: Drying Cubensis Fat Wet Stems [Re: Fungal growth]
    #14056326 - 03/02/11 06:44 PM (13 years, 20 days ago)

Thats funny.... damp rid is like 9 bucks for a bucket, and if your drying box is sealed, that shit will last for fucking 6 months. So to avoid either the 9 bucks or switching it out you bake and microwave regenerateable stuff.  I was just making a recommendation, I've looked for and never even found dri-right here.  I can say I dry a hefty amount of shit and my drying cooler nearly always cracker dries in 24 hrs, and I haven't changed that shit in forever. :shrug:Plus dont you have to bake that regeneratable shit for hours, or microwave forever?  Sounds like that "eats balls" to me


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Re: Drying Cubensis Fat Wet Stems [Re: Harold Hole]
    #14056376 - 03/02/11 06:53 PM (13 years, 20 days ago)

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Thats funny.... damp rid is like 9 bucks for a bucket, and if your drying box is sealed, that shit will last for fucking 6 months. So to avoid either the 9 bucks or switching it out you bake and microwave regenerateable stuff.  I was just making a recommendation, I've looked for and never even found dri-right here.  I can say I dry a hefty amount of shit and my drying cooler nearly always cracker dries in 24 hrs, and I haven't changed that shit in forever. :shrug:Plus dont you have to bake that regeneratable shit for hours, or microwave forever?  Sounds like that "eats balls" to me




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Re: Drying Cubensis Fat Wet Stems [Re: Hakim0777]
    #14056446 - 03/02/11 07:08 PM (13 years, 20 days ago)

if i remember correctly, its like 45 minutes at 450f for drierite, 20 minutes at 250f for
silica. i had to order the drierite online, works the best out of the 3 but for the price
$25 for 5 lbs, plus shipping) you might as well shell out for a dehydrator. ime silica
beads are the best bet, i should say i was trying to use the damprid during a very humid summer,
which probably shortened its effectiveness. but i dont like how it turns to liquid
and was always wondering if the shrooms re-absorb the liquid.
but in the end if i had known how much faster and easier a food dehydrator is to
use i would have bought one from the rip. check thrift stores, i got my excalibur 5 tray for $3.99.

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Re: Drying Cubensis Fat Wet Stems [Re: Fungal growth]
    #14056698 - 03/02/11 07:52 PM (13 years, 19 days ago)

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if i remember correctly, its like 45 minutes at 450f for drierite, 20 minutes at 250f for
silica. i had to order the drierite online, works the best out of the 3 but for the price
$25 for 5 lbs, plus shipping) you might as well shell out for a dehydrator. ime silica
beads are the best bet, i should say i was trying to use the damprid during a very humid summer,
which probably shortened its effectiveness. but i dont like how it turns to liquid
and was always wondering if the shrooms re-absorb the liquid.
but in the end if i had known how much faster and easier a food dehydrator is to
use i would have bought one from the rip. check thrift stores, i got my excalibur 5 tray for $3.99.




See, using the power, taking the time to heat up my oven to bake some chemicle desiccant for nearly an hour, waiting for it to cool, this all sounds like shit i have to do.  Im at the hardware store all the time anyways, so I'll pay 9 bucks, dump my old shit, and pour in new.  Job done.  Plus dirt and shit sometimes gets in there so what do you do, wash AND bake your rechargeable stuff?  Sounds super :thumbdown:


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Re: Drying Cubensis Fat Wet Stems [Re: Harold Hole]
    #14056810 - 03/02/11 08:12 PM (13 years, 19 days ago)

One additional word:

If you are concerned about the chemical content of these materials,
then I have heard nothing to be concerned about, except for the blue beads.
They use a cobalt based material (an isotope?) which is unhealthy.

No worries.  Just do not let your fruits touch them.

Take care,

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Re: Drying Cubensis Fat Wet Stems [Re: Harold Hole]
    #14056842 - 03/02/11 08:19 PM (13 years, 19 days ago)

y the hell would you wash desiccant?
anyways, i meant no offense, i just dont care for damp-rid.
im cheap, and would rather make a single purchase and recycle what i buy
rather than toss it out and buy more. you use it for a week, pop it in the oven,
take it out and repeat. if dirt falls in your desiccant so what? your shrooms
shouldnt be touching it anyway.
i guess it depends which you would rather spend, time or money.

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Re: Drying Cubensis Fat Wet Stems [Re: Fungal growth]
    #14056991 - 03/02/11 08:48 PM (13 years, 19 days ago)

I slice my stems in 8...

Caps I DOnt cut though


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Re: Drying Cubensis Fat Wet Stems [Re: Patlal]
    #14057033 - 03/02/11 08:57 PM (13 years, 19 days ago)

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y the hell would you wash desiccant?
anyways, i meant no offense, i just dont care for damp-rid.
im cheap, and would rather make a single purchase and recycle what i buy
rather than toss it out and buy more. you use it for a week, pop it in the oven,
take it out and repeat. if dirt falls in your desiccant so what? your shrooms
shouldnt be touching it anyway.
i guess it depends which you would rather spend, time or money.




I should have said "clean" not "wash", sorry... too much dank.  Of course my fruits dont touch my desiccant, although they do sit directly above it, so of course shit falls on it just like most large desiccant chambers, and over time without any sort of method to clean it must become filthy.  I just didn't think the 10 dollar cost of damp rid would be a problem for anyone requiring a huge mushroom dryer, lmao, although as anyone who is serious in this hobby knows, time is very valuable.  I work full time, and am a full time mycologist among several other things.  I am already a slave to my research and like most busy bulk growers would tell you, time IS money. And also if you have your oven on for 4 extra hours per month, don't you think it's costing you more in electricity, then it costs me in desiccant, therefore making the cheapness superfulous? JUST SAYIN

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One additional word:

If you are concerned about the chemical content of these materials,
then I have heard nothing to be concerned about, except for the blue beads.
They use a cobalt based material (an isotope?) which is unhealthy.

No worries.  Just do not let your fruits touch them.

Take care,

JD




Arent these the same type of chemicals that are in shoe boxes in the packets that clearly say DO NOT EAT ?  Don't you eat things cooked in your oven?  I'm still not sure I want to bake chemicals in my oven or microwave, when i regularily eat things that spend hours in there....


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Re: Drying Cubensis Fat Wet Stems [Re: Harold Hole]
    #14057394 - 03/02/11 10:17 PM (13 years, 19 days ago)

Not at the same time anyway....

I found this:

"Be aware that the silica dust is not good for you if inhaled and that the cobalt indicator is thought to be a carcinogen so don't regenerate the gel in the oven with your food."

Good luck,

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Re: Drying Cubensis Fat Wet Stems [Re: Javadog]
    #14058439 - 03/03/11 04:59 AM (13 years, 19 days ago)

Quote:

Javadog said:
Not at the same time anyway....

I found this:

"Be aware that the silica dust is not good for you if inhaled and that the cobalt indicator is thought to be a carcinogen so don't regenerate the gel in the oven with your food."

Good luck,

JD




Exactly, so don't you think during the baking process, your dusty desiccant will leave dusty desiccant residue inside your oven, which could easily fall on say, a turkey? Now your munching down dessica-turkey, and your busting your ass to bake desiccant.  I'm sorry, but this rechargeable stuff just seems silly...


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