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brutalstrudel
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HBWR seed question
#14003983 - 02/21/11 09:13 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Okay well I'm about to receive about 25 HBWR seeds and I'm curios if it is a good or bad thing to take 12 seeds at one time?
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cartm4n
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I think I would start off with a lower dose than that. I just recieved my package of 50 seeds and plan on starting off with 4 seeds and adjust as needed.
You should read up on erowid a little bit about HBWR, they can be overwhelming if too many are taken and they are a vasoconstrictor.
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brutalstrudel
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Re: HBWR seed question [Re: cartm4n]
#14004100 - 02/21/11 09:34 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oh believe me I have researched them lol I want to trip amount to a good trip. I've tripped on several other things like shrooms, LSD, DXM, MDMA, dramamine, and morning glories. Morning glories didn't get me quite where I needed to be and I took a heavy dose on 2 separate occasions..
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sunset_mission
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Here I am!
I ordered me 100 HBWR seeds about 2 weeks ago and am currently down to 60ish. Potency varies with batch (my strain is Hawaiian from IAS, pretty potent as far as I can tell) so the standard dose should be 5-6 which - if you're fortunate - will result in an experience of desired strength. Note that LSA is typically less visual than LSD unless mixed with cannabis... then it's an OEV free-for-all. Other than that it's more of a heavy mindfuck.
12 seeds right off the bat would probably overwhelm you. Also, scrape off the fuzzy outer coating of the seeds, take a Benadryl 45 minutes prior and have some weed on hand; all this is to counteract the nausea which many cannot handle.
You may also feel a slight 'cramping' in your leg. This is due to the vasoconstriction that the LSA causes, it is normal.
Enjoy 'em! They're one of my favorite allies to date, and I hope they treat you well.
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Pyroshroom
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sunset_mission said: Here I am!
I ordered me 100 HBWR seeds about 2 weeks ago and am currently down to 60ish. Potency varies with batch (my strain is Hawaiian from IAS, pretty potent as far as I can tell) so the standard dose should be 5-6 which - if you're fortunate - will result in an experience of desired strength. Note that LSA is typically less visual than LSD unless mixed with cannabis... then it's an OEV free-for-all. Other than that it's more of a heavy mindfuck.
12 seeds right off the bat would probably overwhelm you. Also, scrape off the fuzzy outer coating of the seeds, take a Benadryl 45 minutes prior and have some weed on hand; all this is to counteract the nausea which many cannot handle.
You may also feel a slight 'cramping' in your leg. This is due to the vasoconstriction that the LSA causes, it is normal.
Enjoy 'em! They're one of my favorite allies to date, and I hope they treat you well.
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Moo456
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It depends on how experienced you are with tripping. Many people who are used to tripping would want to take at least 10 seeds. Unfortunately 10 seeds is where the sedation and vasoconstriction start getting bad. You will still feel lower doses, but it's more of a buzz than tripping.
You've tried morning glory before and it sounds like you aren't too sensitive to LSA's. If I were you I would take 8-10 seeds and then take 14-16 at a later date. There will be side effects, but you will get to see what LSA can do.
Also LSA combines with other drugs pretty well. Smoke weed, even drink alcohol if you feel like it.
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Re: HBWR seed question [Re: Moo456]
#14005189 - 02/22/11 12:48 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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I took 10. all my friends took 5. We all tripped, but mine was much stronger. I was also the only one who puked though. I think theyre kind of dumb unless you dose large. Definately take 12. If youve tripped lsd or shrooms before youll be fine.
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sunset_mission
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Even if you haven't taken LSD or shrooms before he'd be fine. LSA is a good intro-course on the psychedelic experience (it was my first psychedelic experience, not counting DXM) and in time can be one of the strongest.
And no, they're not dumb if you don't dose large. I occasionally utilize LSA as a nootropic/in microdoses and it helps tremendously. If I am going to tackle a difficult piece of literature (e.g. philosophy) or if I am attending a class that would require creative thinking (multimedia programming, art) 3-4 seeds prior is enough to get my brain in full throttle. Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds were actually used in Ayurvedic medicine to increase intelligence.
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I believe it's always a good idea to start off low.
Gauge your reaction, then up the dose as you see fit!
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brutalstrudel
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Re: HBWR seed question [Re: Cynosure]
#14064716 - 03/04/11 04:47 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well I already took the seeds I had. The first day I took 8 and threw up a little so i kept taking more. at the end of the day I had eaten 25 seeds and It was a decent trip not overwhelming or anything spectacular. then the other night i took 16 and it still wasnt strong enough (they were the Hawaiian strain from IAM) I did feel great, not many visuals but a really good body feel. Next time I plan on taking 20 to start with. I'm not too scared because I don't try to have ego death but I do overly welcome it because I want the experience.
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I disagree with the visual vs lsd part. I took 10 HBWR seeds from India or Africa from IAS, then another 200 or so morning glory seeds, the flying saucer variety also from the same source.
Besides the minor stomach irritation at + 40 minutes, the experience I'd say was just as powerful and just as pleasant. One thing to keep in mind was nothing happened for at least 2 hours, vs. Fungi / LSD / Mescaline kick in about at 40-50 minutes typically.
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iluvfungi is right, I have sometimes seen these take quite a while to kick in fully.
Also, OP, I think you are driving your tolerance up by not waiting long enough between doses, and thus not getting as far as you want.
I've worked with Hawaiian from IAS and they were great to me.
15 got pretty intense. Chewed thoroughly to mush and held down. (After fasting, and taking cola for nausea) Extractions are less efficient (you need more) but are definitely the best way to go.
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sunset_mission said: I occasionally utilize LSA as a nootropic/in microdoses and it helps tremendously. If I am going to tackle a difficult piece of literature (e.g. philosophy) or if I am attending a class that would require creative thinking (multimedia programming, art) 3-4 seeds prior is enough to get my brain in full throttle. Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds were actually used in Ayurvedic medicine to increase intelligence.
Thank you for posting this!
LSA-containing seeds have been one of my few "specialty study" areas in entheogenic ethnobotanicals, and I've long wondered about possible nootropic uses of seeds, but have always been unable to really test it for one reason or another.
I would love to hear more about your experiences with this, if you have more to share.
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Edited by CidneyIndole (03/04/11 11:08 AM)
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sunset_mission
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sunset_mission said: I occasionally utilize LSA as a nootropic/in microdoses and it helps tremendously. If I am going to tackle a difficult piece of literature (e.g. philosophy) or if I am attending a class that would require creative thinking (multimedia programming, art) 3-4 seeds prior is enough to get my brain in full throttle. Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds were actually used in Ayurvedic medicine to increase intelligence.
Thank you for posting this!
LSA-containing seeds have been one of my few "specialty study" areas in entheogenic ethnobotanicals, and I've long wondered about possible nootropic uses of seeds, but have always been unable to really test it for one reason or another.
I would love to hear more about your experiences with this, if you have more to share.
I have plenty.
My interest in the nootropical potential of LSA began about a year or 2 ago. I was bored at work and had gotten 3g of Heavenly Blues prior. I ingested them, not expecting any effects and an hour later began reading Beyond Good And Evil by Friedrich Nietzsche.
I managed to finish the entire book within 4 hours, chocked full with my own insights onto the topics and could retain much of what I read in my memory. This was my first experience with LSA as a smart drug.
In recent times I have utilized anywhere from 3-5 HBWR's for school around 6 times in total, namely for my Multimedia Programming class (HTML, web design, etc.) and my Art class. I am able to organize and work better with many lines of code on it. In Art whatever mental block I have lasts for only 10 seconds as ideas will ebb and flow in my mind for a looong time. There is creativity up the wazoo, at least 10x more than from cannabis. LSA tends to causes extreme time dilation, which in turns slows your thought process down to that of molasses. In this state one can better analyze during contemplation.
Alongside that there is a very noticeable euphoria present. I really tend to get involved with whatever task is at hand.
I cannot stress it enough... HBWR is an amazing ally when used correctly. It is not at all addictive nor detrimental (though I would not recommend daily usage of it). One doesn't even NEED to use it daily as the mental effects of LSA stay with you for around a week, the euphoria, the effects on thoughts, positive mood change, etc.
I can honestly say that this, plus daily meditation, plus my spiritual resurgence has allowed me to completely eliminate all lower vibrational negative emotions from my being; no anger, no hate, no greed, nada.
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Thank you for sharing that. I'm going to give this some thought.
A few years back I almost got to the state you describe. Interestingly, a period of regular MG sessions was a help in this process.
I've fallen so far since then.
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Are HBWR seeds illegal to buy in the USA?
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No, buying the seeds is completely legal.
However, extracting and possessing LSA is illegal.
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Re: HBWR seed question [Re: Cynosure]
#14067219 - 03/04/11 04:38 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you wanna get technical, consuming the seeds is illegal too. You're buying them to grow beautiful Hawaiian baby woodrose vines.
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Re: HBWR seed question [Re: Cynosure]
#14067220 - 03/04/11 04:38 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Consumption may also be considered illegal.
Of course, i eat all my seeds in dreams that took place 30 years ago on Mars.
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I ate 14 my first time... I didn't really 'trip' at all... I was fucked up with a severe case of nausea, no visuals what so ever... felt more like a nauseating sedative then anything.
the second time I ate 4 seeds from the same batch... and I tripped my fuckin balls off, the visuals rivaled LSD, and I only had slight nausea right at the beginning.
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Re: HBWR seed question [Re: LuSiD9]
#14067740 - 03/04/11 06:45 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks for the info everyone
Would one of you knowledgeable fellows like to point me to a a good extraction tek, or have anything to say on that yourselves? I traded for 250 hbrw's not too long ago, and have been contemplating what to do with them for awhile. I am going to give this nootropic idea a try though, thanks for the experience I had never read anything about that before.
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