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Husbands Who Abuse Their Wives Are Feminists
    #13730072 - 01/04/11 03:30 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Feminism is based on the idea that it is shameful to be a stay at home mother. Hence husbands who abuse their wives are feminists because they make it so it's irrational for women to be stay at home mothers... because a woman will not want to risk being a stay at home mother if she is worried their is the possibility her husband could become abusive. And some of the underlying resentment that inspires husbands to abuse their wives is the erroneous belief that being a mother isn't a real job.

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Re: Husbands Who Abuse Their Wives Are Feminists [Re: lines] * 2
    #13730215 - 01/04/11 04:00 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I don't know what to say lines?  Expect I don't see any rational for your premise and you don't know what feminist means. :shrug:


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Re: Husbands Who Abuse Their Wives Are Feminists [Re: lines]
    #13730423 - 01/04/11 04:40 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Feminists bitch about how they are oppressed by men, how in the hell do you figure that men who physically abuse (i.e. oppress) women are feminists? :confused:


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Re: Husbands Who Abuse Their Wives Are Feminists [Re: lines]
    #13730451 - 01/04/11 04:45 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Beating your wife would make her hate you and turn her into a feminist, so beating your wife is actually doing her a favor? Good point :thumbup:

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Re: Husbands Who Abuse Their Wives Are Feminists [Re: Diaboleros] * 1
    #13730508 - 01/04/11 04:53 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Beating your wife would make her hate you and turn her into a feminist, so beating your wife is actually doing her a favor? Good point :thumbup:




This seems to be the basic premise.

But is hate enough to liberate?

The "cycle of abuse" would suggest otherwise, it doesn't only pertain to women as well, but anyone (children, men) in abusive relationships.


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Re: Husbands Who Abuse Their Wives Are Feminists [Re: Poid]
    #13730590 - 01/04/11 05:04 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Feminists bitch about how they are oppressed by men, how in the hell do you figure that men who physically abuse (i.e. oppress) women are feminists? :confused:




Because oppressing women makes women bitch about being oppressed by men.

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Re: Husbands Who Abuse Their Wives Are Feminists [Re: lines] * 2
    #13730880 - 01/04/11 05:53 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

so that is like saying that Communists were Capitalists because they inspired America and other nations to promote Capitalism so much?


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Re: Husbands Who Abuse Their Wives Are Feminists [Re: Blondell_Letrange]
    #13731494 - 01/04/11 07:35 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Beating your wife would make her hate you and turn her into a feminist, so beating your wife is actually doing her a favor? Good point :thumbup:




This seems to be the basic premise.

But is hate enough to liberate?

The "cycle of abuse" would suggest otherwise, it doesn't only pertain to women as well, but anyone (children, men) in abusive relationships.



The cycle of abuse would indeed suggest otherwise, but this same cycle has led to the point where women stood of for themselves, and out of this cycle of abuse, feminism has come forth. There is no such thing as masculinism, because males do not get abused, so they don't need to stand up for their rights.

Conclusion: If you want to help your wife emancipate, beat the shit out of her.

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Re: Husbands Who Abuse Their Wives Are Feminists [Re: Diaboleros]
    #13731527 - 01/04/11 07:42 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Or you could treat her as your friend.


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Re: Husbands Who Abuse Their Wives Are Feminists [Re: Icelander]
    #13736815 - 01/05/11 06:17 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

lines
obviously feminism began as response to a form of prejudice, by gender.
as well as other movements appeared in response to other forms of prejudice, for example racial.

it's plain stupid not only to show that you are talking about something you know nothing about and even more to relate it with a serious matter like that.

and even if you had any intelligent fundament for what you said, you would be making a generalization...


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Re: Husbands Who Abuse Their Wives Are Feminists [Re: pouihi]
    #13736911 - 01/05/11 06:34 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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lines
obviously feminism began as response to a form of prejudice, by gender.
as well as other movements appeared in response to other forms of prejudice, for example racial.

it's plain stupid not only to show that you are talking about something you know nothing about and even more to relate it with a serious matter like that.

and even if you had any intelligent fundament for what you said, you would be making a generalization...




What od you disagree with me on and why? Can you be more specific in your criticism

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Re: Husbands Who Abuse Their Wives Are Feminists [Re: lines]
    #13737022 - 01/05/11 06:52 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Feminism is based on the idea that it is shameful to be a stay at home mother. Hence husbands who abuse their wives are feminists because they make it so it's irrational for women to be stay at home mothers... because a woman will not want to risk being a stay at home mother if she is worried their is the possibility her husband could become abusive. And some of the underlying resentment that inspires husbands to abuse their wives is the erroneous belief that being a mother isn't a real job.




"Feminism is based on the idea that it is shameful to be a stay at home mother" ??? in which encyclopedia did you dig that up??

husbands will beat their wives so they won't stay home??? hummm that's really accurate... maybe you should get some enlightenment about this kind of abuse before start joking about it


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Re: Husbands Who Abuse Their Wives Are Feminists [Re: pouihi]
    #13737567 - 01/05/11 08:21 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Feminists do believe that being a stay at home mother is shameful. Husbands who abuse their wives might not consciously identify as feminists but they serve the feminist agenda by discouraging women from being stay at home mothers.

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Re: Husbands Who Abuse Their Wives Are Feminists [Re: lines]
    #13737672 - 01/05/11 08:34 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Husbands Who Abuse Their Wives Are Feminists [Re: lines]
    #13740130 - 01/06/11 09:33 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Feminists do believe that being a stay at home mother is shameful. Husbands who abuse their wives might not consciously identify as feminists but they serve the feminist agenda by discouraging women from being stay at home mothers.




actually feminists believe that there can be more to a women than the role of a housewife, that women have the right to have an opinion and express it without fear of any reprisal, that women are as fit as man to perform any kind of work, that women aren't in anyway inferior or more incapable than man.
If a women chooses to have a hord of kids and give up a possible carrer, that doesn't make her dumber than anyone else, and sure as hell doesn't mean she hasn't got the right to an opinion or vote for example.

You giving an example of a typicall opressive force applied to a women is certainly not giving an example of an equal rights suporter.
Otherwise you can equally say that anyone who abuses any victim of prejudice is fighting for their rights, which would be stupid.


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Re: Husbands Who Abuse Their Wives Are Feminists [Re: lines]
    #13740509 - 01/06/11 11:04 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Feminists do believe that being a stay at home mother is shameful. Husbands who abuse their wives might not consciously identify as feminists but they serve the feminist agenda by discouraging women from being stay at home mothers.


How are they discouraging women from being stay at home mothers? Don't you think they enjoy having wives that they can beat and fuck whenever they please? The very last thing such a person would do is explicitly encourage his wife to GTFO...

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Re: Husbands Who Abuse Their Wives Are Feminists [Re: lines]
    #17774297 - 02/09/13 07:04 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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Feminists do believe that being a stay at home mother is shameful. Husbands who abuse their wives might not consciously identify as feminists but they serve the feminist agenda by discouraging women from being stay at home mothers.




This is something a feminist would not say.


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Re: Husbands Who Abuse Their Wives Are Feminists [Re: Penelope_Tree]
    #17774379 - 02/09/13 07:18 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Or a sane person. :lol:


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Re: Husbands Who Abuse Their Wives Are Feminists [Re: lines]
    #17776521 - 02/10/13 09:13 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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Or a sane person. :lol:




:lol:

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Feminism is based on the idea that it is shameful to be a stay at home mother.





Your premise is faulty and is not based on any factual definition.

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Hence husbands who abuse their wives are feminists because they make it so it's irrational for women to be stay at home mothers... because a woman will not want to risk being a stay at home mother if she is worried their is the possibility her husband could become abusive. And some of the underlying resentment that inspires husbands to abuse their wives is the erroneous belief that being a mother isn't a real job.




And your conclusion doesn't follow. Your entire argument is kind of like this:

Title: Bananas are purple
Argument: Since oranges are blue, then bananas must be yellow. Because bananas grow in Canada.

Abuse doesn't happen because the husband believes being a stay at home mother isn't a real job.. :facepalm: Abuse happens because the guy is usually quite broken and controlling and uses the abuse to break his partner so he (thinks he) is assured of her staying with him. Amusingly this leads to his partner hating him.


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Re: Husbands Who Abuse Their Wives Are Feminists [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #17776706 - 02/10/13 10:12 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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