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OfflineMoxyOx
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Those experienced with Nootropics...
    #13433103 - 11/04/10 09:37 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I have just recently ordered 30 grams of aniracetam and am stacking this with some lecithin and possibly some theanine. Is aniracetam alone going to help me study or would I need other nootropics to add onto this? Piracetam is out of the shopping supply lately because of some FDA banning unfortunately, but that still leaves all the other smart drugs still available.


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Re: Those experienced with Nootropics... [Re: MoxyOx]
    #13433733 - 11/04/10 12:25 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

You can find primaforce piracetam on amazon.

I just got aniracetam yesterday though and I think I like it even more.

I recommend buying some primaforce choline citrate rather than lecithin. It's tangy tasting and a good source, and cheap for the bulk powder.

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Re: Those experienced with Nootropics... [Re: lasttime]
    #13434891 - 11/04/10 04:28 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I've been using  piracetam and choline citrate for a couple weeks and honestly I cannot tell a difference. I don't want to discourage your use though if you believe its gonna work it probably will.


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Re: Those experienced with Nootropics... [Re: MoxyOx]
    #13445822 - 11/06/10 10:16 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

do these work?

How would they differ from say, coffee, or dexamphetamines?

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Re: Those experienced with Nootropics... [Re: seeker28]
    #13445971 - 11/06/10 10:50 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I've been taking 1.6 grams of piracetam daily for a year and 4 months and 3 days with a choline supplement.

I can't even explain how much it has helped. haven't tried any others but I will start shortly.

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Re: Those experienced with Nootropics... [Re: feifen]
    #13453125 - 11/08/10 10:42 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Try ani...GOOD SHIT.

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Re: Those experienced with Nootropics... [Re: lasttime]
    #13454183 - 11/08/10 03:01 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

i'd recommend a choline supp as well


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Re: Those experienced with Nootropics... [Re: owls]
    #13455127 - 11/08/10 06:06 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I'll definitely order some choline when I get the chance. I doubt lecithin is hardly a decent substitute...

Has aniracetam ever given anyone sinus infection? It seems I developed it hand in hand when I started taking the aniracetam but I'm more then certain it couldn't be the cause.

Thanks for the advice though fellas. :laugh:


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Re: Those experienced with Nootropics... [Re: seeker28]
    #13456374 - 11/08/10 09:43 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

seeker28 said:
How would they differ from say, coffee, or dexamphetamines?



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OfflineMoxyOx
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Re: Those experienced with Nootropics... [Re: seeker28]
    #13458525 - 11/09/10 11:43 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

It doesn't feel forced, more then anything it's like an enhancement. You'll just have to try it out yourself.


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Re: Those experienced with Nootropics... [Re: MoxyOx]
    #13462005 - 11/10/10 01:51 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Where would one order these from? Would one need a prescription? Are they legal in Australia? Sorry if I'm being annoying, you don't have to answer me, but if you are kind enough to inform me, would you be able to send me a PM, as I'm not sure vendors are linkable on the forums.

Thankyou :smile:

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Re: Those experienced with Nootropics... [Re: seeker28]
    #13464447 - 11/10/10 04:36 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

You'll have to check your own countries legality. I mean this stuff is all online and as far as I'm concerned it is almost completely legal in every sense. Anti-aging drugs aren't in need to be controlled, they can't really be abused.

Nonetheless, these things ROCK! I'm starting to really get the feel of it and I love it. :sun:


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Re: Those experienced with Nootropics... [Re: MoxyOx]
    #13473308 - 11/12/10 11:31 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Aniracetam makes me an FPS god

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Re: Those experienced with Nootropics... [Re: lasttime]
    #13480651 - 11/13/10 10:32 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

lasttime said:
Aniracetam makes me an FPS god



what's FPS?

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Re: Those experienced with Nootropics... [Re: seeker28]
    #13480660 - 11/13/10 10:34 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

first person shooter


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Re: Those experienced with Nootropics... [Re: Chodeson]
    #13505539 - 11/18/10 06:53 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Apparently Oxiracetam is the strongest but there's liek no information about it anywhere.

From what I've been reading about piracetam it seems it works for some people and not for others.. Other people talk about the different effects they get between different nootropics :\ I'm taking it all with a grain of salt


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Re: Those experienced with Nootropics... [Re: The Mad Shroomer]
    #13505547 - 11/18/10 06:55 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Well, it worked for me. I prefer this over an adderall a day. No way to really know aside from trying it yourself though!


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Re: Those experienced with Nootropics... [Re: MoxyOx]
    #13505737 - 11/18/10 07:40 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Hmm seems all my sources have removed *racetams from their product list :\


I have a 3yr old 250g tub of piracetam here but I'm not sure if it's safe now haha


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Re: Those experienced with Nootropics... [Re: MoxyOx]
    #14123698 - 03/15/11 04:25 AM (13 years, 18 days ago)

Awesome nootropic = taking a break from weed.

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Re: Those experienced with Nootropics... [Re: seeker28]
    #14146508 - 03/19/11 12:00 AM (13 years, 14 days ago)

I've used piracetam, aniracetam, centrophenoxine, deprenyl, modafinil, and hydergine.
I've added choline bitartate and/or lecithin as well.

I will come out clearly and unambiguously for one over all the others: modafinil (alertec) is amazing, and I'm furious they make it so hard to get. AMAZING. It's pure, clean awareness, without any speed or tweak. Just mental greased wheels. It's hard to describe, but it was always a great, smooth, harmonious sharpener.

Since I've tried the others in varying doses and combinations over time I've concluded that while they do seem to subjectively sharpen thoughts somewhat, it's effect for me has felt intermittent and mild.

The adding of hydergine to *racetams feels speedy, and I notice a shortness of temper while taking them together. Impatience. If I was having to stand guard somewhere at night, I'd try those together to keep an edge.

Piracetam alone (which I just restarted last week after several months off, as it happens) does in fact make a measurable difference to my mental state of awareness- I've started and stopped it enough times to notice it's more than placebo, but I will not go very far in touting it as a significant increase in much-- I experiment with these more for their brain health benefits than some belief in unlocking some secret fantasy door of hidden intelligence. That doesn't exist.

That said, the flow of ideas comes smoothly- more consistently, when it's quiet and I have the solitude of thought to use it. Daytime feels the same, and energy isn't affected.


My conclusion is that these drugs are useful for brain health, Deprenyl has very real long-term benefits that kick in as you age--google it-- but it's important to understand that it's low doses, and probably won't do much for you until your natural dopamine decline begins in your thirties/forties.

My feeling is that those describing dramatic felt affects may be starting from a significant deficit compared to those that feel little or nothing.

In other words, if you try it and it does nothing for you, then maybe you're already operating close to 100% and don't have much room to improve. Who knows- since the cocksucker moral zealots decree these simple things illegal there's far less formal and street info than there should be about these important substances.

I also suggest Qi gong, and/or Tai Chi for maximization of your mind and body. You would be surprised at the focus and mental dexterity you have already, obscured behind tension and distraction. These meditations will unlock your chi- your energy/essence in visceral and measurable ways.

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