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 jmt420
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 White fuzz. . . PICS . . everything good? 
#13389362 - 10/26/10 09:37 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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My friend has 2 brf cakes one birthed 3 or 4 day before the other using the same conditions. . One is Amazonian and the other is treasure coast if i remember correct. One started pinning in the jar and and now has has 3 or 4 pins and a 1 and a half inch one. The one that is not pinning is the first birthed, and been birthed a little over a week. . Humidity is unknown. .Temp is a bit low upper 60s at night to low 70s in day, using 17 watt under counter cfl 12/12 schedule in a shotgun . . .dunked and rolled both.
The non-pinner has ALOT of white on it compared to the one that has activity.
Why no pins with all the white on the first cake?
Does everything look okay?
Should the mycelium be fuzzy? Should there be fuzz on the stem
first pic was taken before misting. .
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Re: White fuzz. . . PICS . . everything good? [Re: jmt420]
#13389387 - 10/26/10 09:45 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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do you have 1/4" holes 2" apart on all six sides?
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jmt420
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Re: White fuzz. . . PICS . . everything good? [Re: k00laid]
#13389408 - 10/26/10 09:51 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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yup holes everywhere
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Re: White fuzz. . . PICS . . everything good? [Re: jmt420]
#13389420 - 10/26/10 09:53 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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is it lifted off the ground so that air can pass into the holes on the bottom?
is it in a closet?
cuz your shrooms look like they need more fresh air
but its just a guess
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Re: White fuzz. . . PICS . . everything good? [Re: k00laid]
#13389462 - 10/26/10 10:03 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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Have you been fanning? Their probably chocking with CO2.
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Re: White fuzz. . . PICS . . everything good? [Re: k00laid]
#13389467 - 10/26/10 10:04 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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the cakes look strange imo. probably contam on both.
i wouldnt eat the fruits from the second one; they look disgusting.
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jmt420 said:
Why no pins with all the white on the first cake?
Does everything look okay?
Should the mycelium be fuzzy?
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k00laid said:
do you have 1/4" holes 2" apart on all six sides?
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k00laid said:
is it lifted off the ground so that air can pass into the holes on the bottom?
is it in a closet?
you always answer question with other questions (that have nothing to do with what the op wants to know)?
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k00laid
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white fuzz is a sign of too much co2
too much co2 is usually caused by
1) not having 1/4" holes 2" apart on all six sides.
2) having your SGFC on the ground so air cannot pass through the holes on the bottom
3) having your SGFC in a closet or something similar where air does not flow naturally.
i think it was perfectly relevant IMO
next time ill just post "i think its too much co2"
and then wait for him to ask why or how to fix it.
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Edited by k00laid (10/26/10 10:10 AM)
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jmt420
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Re: White fuzz. . . PICS . . everything good? [Re: k00laid]
#13389639 - 10/26/10 10:45 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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The setup is in a closest
Lifted off the ground like a half inch (going to have him increase it to a inch)
gets fanned and misted 2 or more times a day(started using a vacuum 2 days ago)saw it on the site somewhere that someone prefers that
Do you guys think the fruits are bad? What looks so disgusting about them?
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Re: White fuzz. . . PICS . . everything good? [Re: jmt420]
#13389700 - 10/26/10 11:02 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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i dont think the fruits are bad.
just lacking some fresh air. due to the closet.
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Re: White fuzz. . . PICS . . everything good? [Re: k00laid]
#13389740 - 10/26/10 11:11 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok . . . .So there is no reason to worry about the fuzz. . .
I was going to say I have saw a lot worse fruits on here ppl claimed was good.
Out of the closet and elevated to 3 inches from the ground. .
Anything else that could be done?
What is the best air exchange method (fanning, hair dryer, vacuum?)
Think the non-pinner just could be a slow pinner due to strain traits?
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Re: White fuzz. . . PICS . . everything good? [Re: jmt420]
#13389773 - 10/26/10 11:20 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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also the group of 3 fruits, was all rather large pins when was dunked so that could make them have a wierd appearance?
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Re: White fuzz. . . PICS . . everything good? [Re: k00laid]
#13389786 - 10/26/10 11:22 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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Definitely a FAE problem possibly coupled with low temps.
Three to six times a day, fan, then mist, then fan again.
75F/23C to 80F/27C for fruiting.
Get the temperature up and increase the FAE by fanning more. Keep the closet door open and run an oscillating fan in the room where the closet is.
Keep an eye on those cakes for trich. It's hard to tell by the pics but you might have the beginning stages.
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Re: White fuzz. . . PICS . . everything good? [Re: jmt420]
#13389798 - 10/26/10 11:25 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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What is the best air exchange method (fanning, hair dryer, vacuum?)
I use a small fan that I hold in my hand.
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Re: White fuzz. . . PICS . . everything good? [Re: nexus1946]
#13390013 - 10/26/10 12:18 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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TRICH??? there is no greenish color anywhere . . . What are the beginning signs?
What are some good way to get heat up, a fish tank heater in a mason jar hasn't helped much all that i could think of right off.
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Re: White fuzz. . . PICS . . everything good? [Re: jmt420]
#13390026 - 10/26/10 12:22 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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White fuzz on stems is addressed all the time. Search!!!
RogerRabbit says:
"These fuzz on the stems threads occur at least twice a week, and invariably someone will say it's from too much humidity, which is wrong. Fuzz on the stems is normal, and there is no such thing as too much humidity. 100% humidity would be great if you could achieve it.
RR"
"I know. I've seen at least a hundred threads where someone says that, and then that wrong answer gets repeated, and repeated, and repeated. I've corrected the record on most, but sometimes I just don't have the energy to type it over and over again. Mushrooms are 100% composed of mycelium, and it's no surprise that various types of mycelium would be present in/on the fruits.
RR"
"The white fuzz at the base of stems is mycelium and has nothing to do with humidity or anything else you do.
RR"
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Re: White fuzz. . . PICS . . everything good? [Re: BHVreaper]
#13390044 - 10/26/10 12:25 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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im going to go against the grain and say your problem is an early birth. The jar birthed later is pinning fine, and the jar birthed earlier is obviously still rapidly producing more mycelium on the moisture around your cakes. Hence the big puffy balls on myc.
I've had the same problem myself. Not much you can do unless you want to crumble, case, and allow for the myc network to settle properly
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Re: White fuzz. . . PICS . . everything good? [Re: BHVreaper]
#13390104 - 10/26/10 12:33 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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jmt420 said:
TRICH??? there is no greenish color anywhere . . . What are the beginning signs?
What are some good way to get heat up, a fish tank heater in a mason jar hasn't helped much all that i could think of right off.
I'm not saying you have trich I'm saying watch for it. The beginning signs are sometimes pure white spots.
Turn the heat up in the house that will bring the heat up.
Did you let the cakes fully consolidate before birthing?
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BHVreaper said:
White fuzz on stems is addressed all the time. Search!!!
Umm yeah, great advice but it's not only on the stems.
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Re: White fuzz. . . PICS . . everything good? [Re: Kevin_X2]
#13390119 - 10/26/10 12:36 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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im going to go against the grain and say your problem is an early birth.
LOL! I didn't see this post when I posted. 
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Re: White fuzz. . . PICS . . everything good? [Re: Kevin_X2]
#13390380 - 10/26/10 01:28 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks for all of your help. . .
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BHVreaper said:
White fuzz on stems is addressed all the time. Search!!!
I did but there was so many different answers, I wanted to just try and get a clear answer. And specific to my conditions.
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Kevin_X2 said:
im going to go against the grain and say your problem is an early birth. The jar birthed later is pinning fine, and the jar birthed earlier is obviously still rapidly producing more mycelium on the moisture around your cakes. Hence the big puffy balls on myc.
The first pic/first birthed was full consolidated and IMO it was overdue to be birthed it was 1.5 - 2 weeks at 100%(due to lack of cash fo FC) the other cake was not completely colonized(about 98%) but was birthed because of the pins. Keep in mind that both are different strains could the different strain have anything to do with it?
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Did you let the cakes fully consolidate before birthing?
The yes the one that didn't pin was.
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Re: White fuzz. . . PICS . . everything good? [Re: jmt420]
#13391277 - 10/26/10 04:50 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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and anyone have any ways of keeping the fc warmer . . usually stays around 64-69
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