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pistachio shells for substrate?
    #13380616 - 10/24/10 02:44 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Well, I've been munching on a 5 pound bag of pistachios (uncolored) for the past few days and now have a huge pile of those hard outer shells. It made me wonder, has anybody ever tried using them for a substrate?

Or, what kind of mushrooms would be a likely candidate to try if one was to experiment with pistachio shells?


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Re: pistachio shells for substrate? [Re: sgctactics]
    #13380688 - 10/24/10 03:03 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

They are a bit wood like. So something that likes wood I would guess.

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Re: pistachio shells for substrate? [Re: Base Icks]
    #13380734 - 10/24/10 03:18 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

elephant mushroom.

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Re: pistachio shells for substrate? [Re: PinsWellWithOthers]
    #13380754 - 10/24/10 03:25 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I would try it out just for fun sounds interesting,
you may just be on to something dont let anyone come here and
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Re: pistachio shells for substrate? [Re: Barakanaten]
    #13380794 - 10/24/10 03:37 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Oysters might eat that if you prepped the shells right... :strokebeard:


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Re: pistachio shells for substrate? [Re: PinsWellWithOthers]
    #13380855 - 10/24/10 03:52 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I'm thinking of soaking them for a couple of days to soften them, then simmer for a bit before PCing them. I'm not sure how it would work for bulk substrates, though. That's a lot of pistachios (unless there are any pistachio lovers that can provide for the cause).


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Re: pistachio shells for substrate? [Re: sgctactics]
    #13380866 - 10/24/10 03:54 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Grind them first, then you won't have to soak as long.


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Re: pistachio shells for substrate? [Re: sgctactics]
    #13380885 - 10/24/10 03:59 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

yeah, and I suppose I could fit more in a jar then. But maybe I can do something like filling them up with sawdust or something. Who knows? They might like the little cup action. Inoculation shells anyone? :dancer:


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Re: pistachio shells for substrate? [Re: sgctactics]
    #13381413 - 10/24/10 05:33 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

theres a good chance they might have some anti-gobad stuff on the shells so soaking them over night might be a good thing to help remove this stuff. while i was carving pumpkins this year i was thinking of using the orange brains and the seeds in a sub which i think would work awesome when you think of how fast mold grows on a carved pumpkin.

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Re: pistachio shells for substrate? [Re: PinsWellWithOthers]
    #13381563 - 10/24/10 06:01 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I'm of course going to have to soak them, to give them some moisture and softness.
Man, I was just thinking the other day about that stuff. There no practical use for the slimy guts of a pumpkin, so if it can work, you got yourself an easy cheap substrate around this time of year. Maybe you could dry the guts and use it as a substitute for BRF.


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Re: pistachio shells for substrate? [Re: sgctactics]
    #24828135 - 12/05/17 02:55 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

I realize that I am reviving a very old post… But I am curious about this. No one seems to have followed up on whether or not pistachio shells can be used as a substrate. I’m sure that not all mushrooms would do fabulous, but maybe some strains or species?

I haven’t been active around here in a while, but I’m looking to get back into the hobby. I have many prints that are about 10 years old, but I would like to start seeing if I can have any success with those.

Similar to the original poster, I consume a lot of pistachios. Originally, I would wash them, let them dry, and then put them in my emulsifier to grind them up. After having some rinsed pistachio powder, I would throw it into the composter. I’m curious if this pistachio shell powder could be used as a supplement to brown rice flour,  or even as a substitute.  Could it potential he be better than sawdust when trying to grow shiitake? Or would the pistachio dust serve as a natural antifungal?

There’s also the possibility of leaving the shells whole.  I think the PF tech with cakes would not work well with whole pistachio shells. - which is basically where I am operating from. As a powder, I could easily substitute or add it to my traditional cake recipe.  However, if you’re doing a popcorn – type substrate, you might be able to soak the  pistachio shells before pressure cooking, and inoculate them directly…

I’m going to be making up some syringes this weekend, and efforts to rehydrate 10 year old spores… But I hope to make a variety of substrate jars to try this out. I would love to hear anyone’s opinion or feedback. Some  people have made comments on this post, but there never really seemed to be much follow up. Let me know what you guys think.


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Re: pistachio shells for substrate? [Re: prozak812]
    #25355900 - 07/30/18 12:54 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

I will attempt to grow mushrooms using pistachio shells as substrate.
For me this is a very good idea especially since I can get my hands on large amounts of pistachio shells on the way to be thrown away.

I’ll let you know what happens.

Meanwhile I found this book (pdf) that explains how it  can be done:

https://repository.library.fresnostate.edu/bitstream/handle/10211.3/118993/ChelseaZWEIGLE.pdf?sequence=1

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Re: pistachio shells for substrate? [Re: Doc_T]
    #25355915 - 07/30/18 01:04 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Doc_T said:
Grind them first, then you won't have to soak as long.




How to grind though? Lol good idea however...

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Re: pistachio shells for substrate? [Re: LetsGetSchwifty]
    #25355958 - 07/30/18 01:27 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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Doc_T said:
Grind them first, then you won't have to soak as long.




How to grind though? Lol good idea however...



Try a coffee/spice grinder.

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Re: pistachio shells for substrate? [Re: Evergreen888]
    #25920442 - 04/07/19 12:01 AM (4 years, 11 months ago)

I'm actually using whole white rice, pistachio shells, popcorn seeds, amnd spent coffee rn... I'll update on how it goes


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Re: pistachio shells for substrate? [Re: IvansFrost]
    #25920452 - 04/07/19 12:05 AM (4 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: pistachio shells for substrate? [Re: Marmie]
    #25920470 - 04/07/19 12:11 AM (4 years, 11 months ago)

Shit man, no one bumped to tell results


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Re: pistachio shells for substrate? [Re: IvansFrost]
    #25920472 - 04/07/19 12:12 AM (4 years, 11 months ago)

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I'm actually using whole white rice, pistachio shells, popcorn seeds, amnd spent coffee rn... I'll update on how it goes





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Re: pistachio shells for substrate? [Re: AyePlus]
    #25920512 - 04/07/19 12:37 AM (4 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: pistachio shells for substrate? [Re: LotKid]
    #25920535 - 04/07/19 12:56 AM (4 years, 11 months ago)

Why are so many people set on using formulas that are proven to not be beneficial? It seems like the last couple weeks here there have been so many "noob" questions/mid grows from people trying to use sterilized manure and straw for Cubensis substrates. All they have to show for are contaminates.

Gentlemen, never before in your life have you ever had the opportunity to so easily talk to the people who know what the fuck is going on. Prepping Coir and only pure Coir is so easy!

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