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CycleThoughts
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NFL 100 Greatest Players
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http://top100.nfl.com/
Here's some candidates that are left for the top 30
Brett Favre Dan Marino Joe Montana John Elway Warren Moon Dan Fouts Johnny Unitas Peyton Manning Tom Brady Jerry Rice Emmitt Smith Walter Payton Barry Sanders Lawrence Taylor Reggie White Adam Vinetari
Any others?
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zappaisgod
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OJ at 40? Bullshit. Jim Brown. Thurman Thomas. Lynn Swann. What the fuck is Vinateri doing there? He isn't a football player, he's a kicker.
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Re: NFL 100 Greatest Players [Re: zappaisgod]
#13352626 - 10/18/10 01:54 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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I know, but he's hit a lot of important, game winning kicks. I think they'll put him in the top 30, although that would really piss off Deon.
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no drew brees? when you come 8 yards shy of the all time passing yard record i think you deserve to be in leagues with at least kellen winslow.
and where is morten andersen? all time point scorer. if there should be any kicker, it should be morten andersen.
i didnt see pat swilling, or sam mills in there either, the core of easily one of the top 5 defenses all time.
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Dude, don't even try it.
Payton Manning is a football god, and Venateri definitely deserves to be above Anderson
You know how these lists go, it's like a high school election, it's all a popularity contest.
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Bree's might end up in the top 30 but he isnt there yet
Dont diss on Vinateri, he's probably the most clutch kicker in NFL history.
Zappa- OJ belongs right at 40. Know all the hype about Chris Johnson getting 2000 yards last year? Know who did it first. OJ back in 73' and did it while rushing for 6 yards per carry
12,000 yards of offense, 70 TD's in 11 years is pretty damn impressive
#12 all time in Yards Per Carry with 4.7 career #20 all time in Rushing Yards
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I though OJ should have been much higher, not lower.
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Just curious: what makes Manning a better QB than Brees? For that matter, what makes any player on this list ranked where they are? Is this not just people picking their favorite players?
I didn't go to the site, but 9 times out of 10, at least, these lists are completely retarded. Just like AFI 'top 100 movies' and Rolling Stone's "top 100 albums'. Sure, the people picking the names probably know a lot about whatever the list is (certainly more than myself) but it's still all a matter of opinion and popularity.
So I'm still curious, what makes Citizen Kane better than the Godfather (it's not better, AFI), what makes Pet Sounds by the Beach Boys better than Are You Experienced by Hendrix (it's not better, Rolling Stone) and what makes Manning better than Brees? (he isn't better)
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Re: NFL 100 Greatest Players [Re: cortex]
#13357386 - 10/19/10 01:12 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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how can the all time point scorer in the history of the nfl, not be in the top 100?
doesnt make sense.
and you need to listen to pet sounds.
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Because he's a fucking kicker.
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Re: NFL 100 Greatest Players [Re: zappaisgod]
#13357633 - 10/19/10 02:12 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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i think every position in the game should have at least 1 person, and morten andersen is the nfl's greatest kicker. no contest.
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Really? Who's your punter?
I don't think I agree with either of your assertions that every position should be represented or that Andersen was the best. Just the most. It is also an idiotic criteria, all time scoring leader. Here's the list: http://football.about.com/od/nflhistory/a/alltimescoring.htm 20 of them. All kickers, I believe, with the semi-exception of George Blanda. I think you might get your kicker in Blanda, anyway. Pure kickers? Fucking hell no. Hell fuck no.
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Re: NFL 100 Greatest Players [Re: cortex]
#13357853 - 10/19/10 03:02 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: I though OJ should have been much higher, not lower.
Gotcha, I thought you were arguing that he didnt belong on the list.
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cortex said: Just curious: what makes Manning a better QB than Brees? (he isn't better)
I hope you are joking. Or else you are really letting your bias getting the way of making an educated opinion
Anyone who isnt a Saints fan can acknowledge that Manning is better than Brees
Why? because he is better in every statistical category and has been the most consistent QB to ever play the game. When it's all said and done, he can arguably be the BEST QB to ever play the game.
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whats the chances of people disagreeing with a subjective ranking list?
Of course people are going to disagree. Who cares. It's a great show.
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Re: NFL 100 Greatest Players [Re: LiquidSmoke]
#13358118 - 10/19/10 04:04 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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You think Brees is better than Peyton Manning?
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i thought i had posted it on here somewhere, or maybe someone else did and i posted it somewhere else...
but anyway, last year when manning was given player of the year award someone showed a list of every imaginable statistic for a qb. stats like "completions over 20 yards to a TE on the left side"... there were about 200 categories and bress was #1 in about 90% and 2nd in the other 10% (of good stats, not most INTs).
while I dont think career-wise brees is better than manning, he was the best QB last year. also, manning has had a team built around him for his entire career, while brees really only got that going for him 3 years ago. i would also say that manning has had better receivers throughout his career, but that stuff is always hard to sell because did the receiver make the qb great, or the qb make the receiver great?
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Drew Brees threw a 70% completion rating last year, the highest ever in a season. Brees was underrated before last year and he's probably still underrated, but based on career, he's not even equal to Manning.
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Where is Otto Graham?
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Re: NFL 100 Greatest Players [Re: spock]
#13358414 - 10/19/10 05:13 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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Probably coming up in the top 30
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Only 2 players that started last decade. I don't like these lists because it's so impossible to unseat legends.
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