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CDE spindle shrooms
    #13236840 - 09/23/10 04:11 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Wanted to give this little guy a try. Now, for the organic bird seed. What is the essential ingredient in it that makes it good for substrate? is it millet seeds?

Alternatively, where can i buy the substrate already pre made?

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Re: CDE spindle shrooms [Re: saberlily]
    #13236884 - 09/23/10 04:24 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

You can use millet. Or really any grain.
But there's better ways than a CD spindle.


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Re: CDE spindle shrooms [Re: Doc_T]
    #13236926 - 09/23/10 04:33 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Im aware of that, just wanted to try something small.

I have some PF teks going right now and i think i will try a simple casing with 60/40 verm+coco coir in a short while as well

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Re: CDE spindle shrooms [Re: saberlily]
    #13236936 - 09/23/10 04:35 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Ok, that said all grains are about the same- but rye is the easiest to get right the first time.
Starting with rye berries is worth it, even if you end up buying them at the health store for too much.
Millet is smaller and lighter and trickier to work with compared to rye.


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Re: CDE spindle shrooms [Re: Doc_T]
    #13236956 - 09/23/10 04:40 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Ok thanks, will do

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Re: CDE spindle shrooms [Re: saberlily]
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Re: CDE spindle shrooms [Re: saberlily]
    #13236978 - 09/23/10 04:44 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Make your own, don't buy grain jars. It's like having your dinner flown in.
You have a pressure cooker? If not, get one. Thrift stores will have small ones for $10-15.


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Re: CDE spindle shrooms [Re: Doc_T]
    #13236991 - 09/23/10 04:47 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Yea i have a pressure cooker.

For a future casing, is it beneficial to buy the casing mix pre made or do it myself?

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Re: CDE spindle shrooms [Re: saberlily]
    #13237004 - 09/23/10 04:49 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Generally you won't case with cubensis, you'll spawn to bulk, then fruit that uncased.
But cased grains work fine. I've had great luck using premixed stuff, either Jiffy Mix Seed Starter or MGMC.
If you really get into casing later on, it's a lot cheaper to make your own.


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Re: CDE spindle shrooms [Re: Doc_T]
    #13237029 - 09/23/10 04:53 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Generally you won't case with cubensis, you'll spawn to bulk, then fruit that uncased.
But cased grains work fine. I've had great luck using premixed stuff, either Jiffy Mix Seed Starter or MGMC.
If you really get into casing later on, it's a lot cheaper to make your own.




what do you mean by spawn to bulk?

And what mushrooms do you generally case with?

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Re: CDE spindle shrooms [Re: saberlily]
    #13237066 - 09/23/10 04:59 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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what do you mean by spawn to bulk?

And what mushrooms do you generally case with?




You have a lot of reading to do! Here is one of my favorite posts:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11961453
The coir and poo/straw sections are about preparing bulk substrates.

The last time I grew  the 50/50 casing layer for cubes was all the rage and I had good results with it. Currently, the consensus seems to be that fruiting uncased is better for cubes.

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Re: CDE spindle shrooms [Re: blaaky]
    #13237088 - 09/23/10 05:04 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Not so much that "uncased is better" as that there's usually no particular benefit to it with cubes.*
Lots of species require casing and some are very specific in their demands. Cubes are just mellow.

*Except when casing grains.
Some people say that's outdated too, but I think it works great.


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Re: CDE spindle shrooms [Re: Doc_T]
    #13238262 - 09/23/10 08:56 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Do i was looking at your mono tub thread ( props, btw )

Could i use your WBS tek and use that as the spawn? I have a 12.5 gallon tub that I already had set up for a shotgun terrarium. It sounds like it would suffice seeing as i would need to tape the bottom anyway, correct?

For the substrate, perhaps a 60/40 verm coco coir?

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Re: CDE spindle shrooms [Re: saberlily]
    #13238329 - 09/23/10 09:08 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

And would it be at all worth doing a casing on PF tek cakes that are not fully colonized, as in, stopped growing?

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Re: CDE spindle shrooms [Re: saberlily]
    #13238623 - 09/23/10 10:02 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: CDE spindle shrooms [Re: saberlily]
    #13238666 - 09/23/10 10:14 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

you bump your own thread after 54 minutes?
I think you don't understand how this place works.


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Re: CDE spindle shrooms [Re: rave420]
    #13238682 - 09/23/10 10:18 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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you bump your own thread after 54 minutes?
I think you don't understand how this place works.




Nah, i was just doing it once before bed, i will check again in the morning

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Re: CDE spindle shrooms [Re: saberlily]
    #13239464 - 09/24/10 06:00 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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would it be at all worth doing a casing on PF tek cakes




No benefit to it.


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Re: CDE spindle shrooms [Re: Doc_T]
    #13239707 - 09/24/10 08:36 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

When you do Pf tek and dunk and roll them, the roll is esentially casing them.

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Re: CDE spindle shrooms [Re: Base Icks]
    #13239719 - 09/24/10 08:40 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

True.
No benefit to 'casing cakes' in the ordinary sense of the word as it's being used here; crumbling and casing.

You do want to roll or at least double-end case with verm.


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