|
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
|
woodwalker
Shroom State, Alumni
Registered: 08/10/10
Posts: 152
Loc: New England
|
ID request, northeastern us
#13031671 - 08/10/10 01:24 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
My first post so please be gentle.
1.
1a. I believe to be same species. same spore print.
gills white yesterday, reddish today. 1a.
1a.,1.
Habitat: Wood - Found in woods with lots of pine, maple, birch, ferns and
moss.growing from under leaves.
Gills: light brown to beige. The gills are close, unattached.
Stem: brown on smaller, light brown on larger, 3-5mm
Cap: light brown to dark brown.Looks like a breast w/nipple, 2.5 -3.5cm in
diameter.
Spore print color: a reddish brown.
Bruising: No color change was observed.
Location: Picked in Northeastern USA, maine.
Other information: smells a little spicy. My camera is old so apologize for the image quality (no macro capability). 2.
Habitat: deer trail in meadow on edge of woods
Gills: ??
Stem: white 2-4cm
Cap: white, several specimens, all different shapes sizes max approx 5cm.
Spore print color: ??
Bruising: No color change was observed.
Location: Picked in Northeastern USA, maine.
Edited by woodwalker (08/10/10 07:29 PM)
|
caphillkid
Coquus Boleti
Registered: 10/09/08
Posts: 4,666
Loc: Jet City
|
Re: ID request, northeastern us [Re: woodwalker]
#13031718 - 08/10/10 01:37 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
First one could be a Cortinarius species I guess.
2nd:
http://www.mushroomexpert.com/hypomyces.html
|
elprawn
Mushroom Guestimator
Registered: 10/17/09
Posts: 14,303
Loc: Ilford, England
Last seen: 2 years, 3 months
|
Re: ID request, northeastern us [Re: caphillkid]
#13031729 - 08/10/10 01:39 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Some gill shots would be nice.
|
woodwalker
Shroom State, Alumni
Registered: 08/10/10
Posts: 152
Loc: New England
|
Re: ID request, northeastern us [Re: caphillkid]
#13031801 - 08/10/10 01:56 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
thank you. yes there were several Amanita rubescens (what i believe to be....) in the same area.
I suspect these may be the host of this "alien" parasite. i failed to mention the white residue and powder that was rubbing off on the grass and leaves around it.
Edited by woodwalker (08/10/10 02:03 PM)
|
German Kahuna
Facepalmer of Stoopid
Registered: 10/31/08
Posts: 15,798
Loc: On a Chemical Vacation
|
Re: ID request, northeastern us [Re: woodwalker]
#13031972 - 08/10/10 02:21 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
That would be the mushroom's spores. And this Amanita doesn't have anything to do with the Hypomyces infestation. Hypomyces is an independent parasitic fungus.
-------------------- "Vegetarian" [ /ˌvedʒəˈteəriən/] - Ancient slang meaning "village idiot who can't hunt, fish or ride".
|
Bobzimmer
Crawlin' Kingsnake
Registered: 09/07/08
Posts: 8,696
Loc: NY
|
|
1 Entoloma 2 Hypomyces hyalinus 3 Amanita amerirubescens...what H. hyalinus likes to eat.
-------------------- Mr. Mushrooms said: I will confess something that should be quite obvious, CC. I love mushrooms, i.e. fungi. I really do. I am talking about a strong feeling, i.e. emotion, for them. I think they are beautiful. I even dream of them.
|
caphillkid
Coquus Boleti
Registered: 10/09/08
Posts: 4,666
Loc: Jet City
|
Re: ID request, northeastern us [Re: Bobzimmer]
#13032405 - 08/10/10 03:42 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Bobzimmer said: 1 Entoloma
You think? The print looks more rusty brown to me than pink, and I was leaning towards mycorrhizal.
|
woodwalker
Shroom State, Alumni
Registered: 08/10/10
Posts: 152
Loc: New England
|
Re: ID request, northeastern us [Re: Bobzimmer]
#13033164 - 08/10/10 06:35 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
absolutely agree with two and three. I'm still not sure about #1. Some fo the characteristics are in line with what i've been reading about Cortinarius(especially the spore print), but i've not been able to find a specific species that looks like the one i found. the spore print is definately rusty brown/reddish. I've done a lot of painting and the first color that came to mind when i did the print was sienna, but i wasn't sure how many people would be familiar with that color. thanks for the help so far. again, i apologize for the photo quality. I have a 35mm with a zoom, but i'm leary about the processing of the film. I will have better pictures of other species when i have access to a friend's digital SLR.
|
elprawn
Mushroom Guestimator
Registered: 10/17/09
Posts: 14,303
Loc: Ilford, England
Last seen: 2 years, 3 months
|
Re: ID request, northeastern us [Re: woodwalker]
#13033165 - 08/10/10 06:36 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
I'm not convinced the first ones are all the same species.
|
woodwalker
Shroom State, Alumni
Registered: 08/10/10
Posts: 152
Loc: New England
|
Re: ID request, northeastern us [Re: elprawn]
#13033180 - 08/10/10 06:40 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
that is possible. the spore prints had the same color. #1, 1a were found just on the other side of a stone wall near the Amanita amerirubescens. It's not possible that 1a is a young Amanita is it? no ring on stipe....
|
elprawn
Mushroom Guestimator
Registered: 10/17/09
Posts: 14,303
Loc: Ilford, England
Last seen: 2 years, 3 months
|
Re: ID request, northeastern us [Re: woodwalker]
#13033190 - 08/10/10 06:43 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
I think the first 3 are probably Entoloma or if there is wood under that moss, Pluteus. Gill shots are very important, though.
|
Big_Laughing_Jim
wanderer
Registered: 07/10/09
Posts: 204
Last seen: 13 years, 6 months
|
Re: ID request, northeastern us [Re: elprawn]
#13033208 - 08/10/10 06:48 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
1 + 1a both entoloma sp. imo
|
caphillkid
Coquus Boleti
Registered: 10/09/08
Posts: 4,666
Loc: Jet City
|
|
The spore print color seems to rule out Entoloma as well as Pluteus. The OP says it is rusty brown/reddish, and that's what the pic looks like to me also.
|
elprawn
Mushroom Guestimator
Registered: 10/17/09
Posts: 14,303
Loc: Ilford, England
Last seen: 2 years, 3 months
|
Re: ID request, northeastern us [Re: caphillkid]
#13033286 - 08/10/10 07:07 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
caphillkid said: The spore print color seems to rule out Entoloma as well as Pluteus. The OP says it is rusty brown/reddish, and that's what the pic looks like to me also.
Which is why I suspect more than one species. The little cap in that picture looks like it could be an Inocybe.
|
Bobzimmer
Crawlin' Kingsnake
Registered: 09/07/08
Posts: 8,696
Loc: NY
|
Re: ID request, northeastern us [Re: elprawn]
#13033343 - 08/10/10 07:22 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
The spore print color isn't brown enough for Inocybe. It looks pink to me and the gills aren't obviously free so....Entoloma. Plus the mushroom looks like an Entoloma.
-------------------- Mr. Mushrooms said: I will confess something that should be quite obvious, CC. I love mushrooms, i.e. fungi. I really do. I am talking about a strong feeling, i.e. emotion, for them. I think they are beautiful. I even dream of them.
|
woodwalker
Shroom State, Alumni
Registered: 08/10/10
Posts: 152
Loc: New England
|
Re: ID request, northeastern us [Re: elprawn]
#13033358 - 08/10/10 07:25 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
both 1 and 1a were found singly and not in clusters. 1 was a distance from 1a. the whole area where found consists of rotting wood covered by moss. the profile of 1 is what i thought would be helpful since it is so pronounced. i've looked at some pictures online of the possible species and some do look similar but nothing exact. I'm sure i can find another another time when i have the better camera. If so, i will post better pictures of the gills and stem. BTW the stems were hollow and wet. Looking at the spore print under simulated day light, it is imho definately not pink. definately rusty/chocolate brown. the gills on 1a were most certainly unattached to the stem.
|
elprawn
Mushroom Guestimator
Registered: 10/17/09
Posts: 14,303
Loc: Ilford, England
Last seen: 2 years, 3 months
|
Re: ID request, northeastern us [Re: Bobzimmer]
#13033360 - 08/10/10 07:26 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Bobzimmer said: The spore print color isn't brown enough for Inocybe. It looks pink to me and the gills aren't obviously free so....Entoloma. Plus the mushroom looks like an Entoloma.
I agree with you on Entoloma, Bob. That was my initial reaction when I saw the habitat and that distinctive cap shape. I just wanted to see the gills, is all.
As for the colour, I've never printed an Inocybe. The white balance is way off, in any case, so it's all much of a muchness.
|
Bobzimmer
Crawlin' Kingsnake
Registered: 09/07/08
Posts: 8,696
Loc: NY
|
Re: ID request, northeastern us [Re: elprawn]
#13033379 - 08/10/10 07:29 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
There's nothing chocolatey about that spore prink. It doesn't look pink to you, but that's what a "pink" spore print looks like. A very faint print would look more pink. Yours is nice and dark, so the other hues (brown) show up better.
-------------------- Mr. Mushrooms said: I will confess something that should be quite obvious, CC. I love mushrooms, i.e. fungi. I really do. I am talking about a strong feeling, i.e. emotion, for them. I think they are beautiful. I even dream of them.
|
woodwalker
Shroom State, Alumni
Registered: 08/10/10
Posts: 152
Loc: New England
|
Re: ID request, northeastern us [Re: Bobzimmer]
#13033661 - 08/10/10 08:27 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
ok. seems like some consensus here. any possibility of an exact match? I don't have any literature yet. I plan on getting a book for my region soon. thanks for the replies.
|
Bobzimmer
Crawlin' Kingsnake
Registered: 09/07/08
Posts: 8,696
Loc: NY
|
Re: ID request, northeastern us [Re: woodwalker]
#13033699 - 08/10/10 08:33 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
It kinda looks like Entoloma strictius...kinda.
-------------------- Mr. Mushrooms said: I will confess something that should be quite obvious, CC. I love mushrooms, i.e. fungi. I really do. I am talking about a strong feeling, i.e. emotion, for them. I think they are beautiful. I even dream of them.
|
|