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Offlinetangoking
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We can choose to abort a preborn baby, but not to smoke a marijuana cig our homes?
    #12269359 - 03/25/10 12:35 PM (14 years, 7 days ago)

The purpose of this post is to point out an inconsistency between abortion and marijuana laws. It does not take a pro-life or pro-choice position.

- In the U.S., one can legally choose to terminate a fetus, on the grounds that the government has no right to tell a woman what to do with their body. Yet, at the same time, marijuana laws do exactly that: they prevent one from choosing to inhale marijuana smoke into their body.

- In the case of abortion, the victim is clear: the baby/pregnancy. Where is the victim when a person smokes a marijuana cigarette?

- In the case of abortion, a potential human life is destroyed, yet it is legal. There is no blood when the marijuana smoker lights up.

This makes no sense to me. Does anyone else see the inconsistency in the law? In a free society, where a woman has the freedom to choose whether or not they give birth, is it not inconsistent for that same society to prevent a person from smoking a marijuana cigarette?


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Re: We can choose to abort a preborn baby, but not to smoke a marijuana cig our homes? [Re: tangoking] * 1
    #12269366 - 03/25/10 12:36 PM (14 years, 7 days ago)

Since when was the US law about common sense?


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Re: We can choose to abort a preborn baby, but not to smoke a marijuana cig our homes? [Re: Shroomism]
    #12269396 - 03/25/10 12:40 PM (14 years, 7 days ago)

You have to accept that the war on drugs is based on political motivation and not logical reasoning.
The government knows more about drugs than you could imagine.
They know the benefits, they know there are diseases and mental illnesses that can be cured by drugs under prohibition.
However, there are other motivations behind their actions.

Ask yourself why the U.S. owns patents on cannabanoids?

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Re: We can choose to abort a preborn baby, but not to smoke a marijuana cig our homes? [Re: Shroomism]
    #12269397 - 03/25/10 12:41 PM (14 years, 7 days ago)

blah blah blah blah we all know its bullshit blah blah blah

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Re: We can choose to abort a preborn baby, but not to smoke a marijuana cig our homes? [Re: LoveYourLife]
    #12269410 - 03/25/10 12:42 PM (14 years, 7 days ago)

Because they can't patent a plant.

:haha:


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Re: We can choose to abort a preborn baby, but not to smoke a marijuana cig our homes? [Re: DeadHearts]
    #12269448 - 03/25/10 12:50 PM (14 years, 7 days ago)

Comparing marijuana and abortion is not how to get it legalized.

Abortion and smoking are completely different subjects.

To argue to legalize something you must give the pros to it being legal and the cons to it being illegal.

Just like people who say marijuana should be legal because it is safer than alcohol... Thats not a reason to legalize marijuana thats a reason to prohibit alcohol.

There are enough pros to legalizing marijuana already, work with those facts.

Horrible comparison.

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Re: We can choose to abort a preborn baby, but not to smoke a marijuana cig our homes? [Re: Shroomism]
    #12269468 - 03/25/10 12:54 PM (14 years, 7 days ago)

Cannabis laws make no sense at all. It just goes to show you that your government CAN tell you what to do even if it makes no sense at all. We are not free people. It's a joke to say we are a free people. If you scream it loud enough people just believe what they hear. You can't even protest without the government telling you can. You have to ask permission and get a permit.


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Re: We can choose to abort a preborn baby, but not to smoke a marijuana cig our homes? [Re: Ganjabonga]
    #12269476 - 03/25/10 12:55 PM (14 years, 7 days ago)

Abortions are great and no matter the law I will smoke pot for the rest of my days. :billymaythumbup:

QFT! :trollz:


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Re: We can choose to abort a preborn baby, but not to smoke a marijuana cig our homes? [Re: Kada]
    #12269490 - 03/25/10 12:57 PM (14 years, 7 days ago)

Half the country supports war instead of health coverage for our citizens. Our priorities are indeed skewed.

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Re: We can choose to abort a preborn baby, but not to smoke a marijuana cig our homes? [Re: Gr8fulJ420]
    #12269500 - 03/25/10 12:59 PM (14 years, 7 days ago)

Pointing out inconsistencies in laws in this country is like shooting fish in a barrel :rolleyes:

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Re: We can choose to abort a preborn baby, but not to smoke a marijuana cig our homes? [Re: noticeofeviction]
    #12269505 - 03/25/10 01:00 PM (14 years, 7 days ago)

Quote:

noticeofeviction said:
Pointing out inconsistencies in laws in this country is like shooting fish in a barrel :rolleyes:




And or a waste of time.

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Re: We can choose to abort a preborn baby, but not to smoke a marijuana cig our homes? [Re: DeadHearts]
    #12269513 - 03/25/10 01:01 PM (14 years, 7 days ago)

Quote:

DeadHearts said:
Quote:

noticeofeviction said:
Pointing out inconsistencies in laws in this country is like shooting fish in a barrel :rolleyes:




And or a waste of time.




And.

I just find it a bit obvious

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Re: We can choose to abort a preborn baby, but not to smoke a marijuana cig our homes? [Re: Ganjabonga]
    #12269545 - 03/25/10 01:07 PM (14 years, 7 days ago)

Quote:

Ganjabonga said:
Comparing marijuana and abortion is not how to get it legalized. Abortion and smoking are completely different subjects. To argue to legalize something you must give the pros to it being legal and the cons to it being illegal.



I was neither arguing to legalize nor to keep it illegal. I was comparing abortion and marijuana laws, and pointing out what I saw as a legal inconsistency.

On one hand, we have abortion, where a person is granted the right to do what they want with their body--even at the cost of a potential human life. In contrast, marijuana is illegal, where a person may not do what they want with their body, despite the fact that there is no clear victim.

At risk of resorting to slang, this seems a bit "bass ackward" to me.

Quote:

Ganjabonga said:
Just like people who say marijuana should be legal because it is safer than alcohol... Thats not a reason to legalize marijuana thats a reason to prohibit alcohol.



Along these lines of thinking, for the law to be consistent:
both abortion and marijuana should be legal, or both abortion and marijuana should be illegal.


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Re: We can choose to abort a preborn baby, but not to smoke a marijuana cig our homes? [Re: tangoking]
    #12269574 - 03/25/10 01:13 PM (14 years, 7 days ago)

Well, good luck to Cali passing that legal recreational use of marijuana law.

[crosses fingers] Domino effect![/uncross]


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Re: We can choose to abort a preborn baby, but not to smoke a marijuana cig our homes? [Re: Wasteland]
    #12269582 - 03/25/10 01:14 PM (14 years, 7 days ago)

I'm registering and voting specifically for that :bonghit:

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Re: We can choose to abort a preborn baby, but not to smoke a marijuana cig our homes? [Re: tangoking]
    #12269586 - 03/25/10 01:14 PM (14 years, 7 days ago)

Lets just keep enabling ourselves by rationalizing everything in favor of our opinions. Only then can we continue aborting children and smoking pot with peace of mind. This thread sucks.


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Re: We can choose to abort a preborn baby, but not to smoke a marijuana cig our homes? [Re: Wasteland]
    #12269607 - 03/25/10 01:18 PM (14 years, 7 days ago)

Quote:

Wasteland said:
Well, good luck to Cali passing that legal recreational use of marijuana law.

[crosses fingers] Domino effect![/uncross]




Its great watching all the growers shitting right now because they might not be raking it in as much anymore. It will take away the black market and lower prices. :rofl2:

Great for me, not so great for my dealer! :rofl2:


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Re: We can choose to abort a preborn baby, but not to smoke a marijuana cig our homes? [Re: KillaFoRilla]
    #12269720 - 03/25/10 01:33 PM (14 years, 7 days ago)

My dealer is unreliable as fuck. I would love to call him and tell him that his services are no longer needed. lol


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