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AlphaFalfa
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Burn the Pedophiles!
#11693262 - 12/21/09 03:58 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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In a recent threat in a anonymous forum, someone brought up pedophilia in a very edgy fashion.
There were many in that thread that were spewing violent nonsense, saying disembowel them, etc. Even one was adament on these violent actions, even after a study was brought up which showed that pedophilia was premeditated by a history of being molested.
What are your thoughts on this? Why the violent rash nonsense?
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Re: Burn the Pedophiles! [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#11693282 - 12/21/09 04:02 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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They want to kill the karma of molestation. No molester, no molesting. Nothing personal...
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Re: Burn the Pedophiles! [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#11693340 - 12/21/09 04:09 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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AlphaFalfa said: In a recent threat in a anonymous forum, someone brought up pedophilia in a very edgy fashion.
There were many in that thread that were spewing violent nonsense, saying disembowel them, etc. Even one was adament on these violent actions, even after a study was brought up which showed that pedophilia was premeditated by a history of being molested.
What are your thoughts on this? Why the violent rash nonsense?
I think this "outrage" is a cover up. It's based in fear. I think that many people have feelings of wanting to fuck some underage person and feel deep shame for this. They then rage out in public to cover it, to say to the world,"I'm not like that". Happens a lot if you read the news.
We seem to feel that just having a feeling or desire is in itself wrong. But we are animals with sex drives and we all have sex urges and fantasies we might consider unsavory. But they are all normal imo.
Acting on some of them is the real problem.
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Poid
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Re: Burn the Pedophiles! [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#11693537 - 12/21/09 04:38 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Icelander said: Acting on some of them is the real problem.
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Re: Burn the Pedophiles! [Re: Poid]
#11694246 - 12/21/09 06:26 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Icelander said: Getting caught acting on them is the real problem.
Just kidding of course...
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Poid
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Re: Burn the Pedophiles! [Re: deCypher]
#11694256 - 12/21/09 06:28 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylanfireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Icelander
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Re: Burn the Pedophiles! [Re: deCypher]
#11694357 - 12/21/09 06:42 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Depends on how rich you manage to get money boy.
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Poid
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Re: Burn the Pedophiles! [Re: Icelander]
#11694369 - 12/21/09 06:44 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylanfireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Noteworthy
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Re: Burn the Pedophiles! [Re: Poid]
#11695265 - 12/21/09 09:17 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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What I am interested in is whether the problem is that pedophiles are lusting after children, that they are either physically or emotionally hurting the children, or that they are interacting with the children at all, that makes people so angry...
I just think theyre rapists
and rapists are bad, yeah, but apparently theyre everywhere
and then you gotta ask 'well was it an uncomfortable experience'
I mean what about someone who looks at kiddy porn. are they really doing anything wrong? Maybe, if these kids are being forced into it and the venture is funded by this audience member
Meh I just think that kids should know what is appropriate or not with another adult and if an adult forces something on a child then it is rape pure and simple, with the added weight of abusing responsibility as an adult in care, in many cases
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Re: Burn the Pedophiles! [Re: Noteworthy]
#11695311 - 12/21/09 09:25 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Noteworthy said: Meh I just think that kids should know what is appropriate or not with another adult and if an adult forces something on a child then it is rape pure and simple, with the added weight of abusing responsibility as an adult in care, in many cases
It really should be up to the child; when I was a kid, I would definitely not have minded fooling around with a girl who is my age right now (20).
I agree with Sigmund Freud's theory of polyhmorphous perversity, which simply states that humans are born with the ability to derive sexual pleasure from any object; assuming that this theory is true, then that means there's nothing unnatural about being sexually attracted to children.
But yeah, rape is bad.
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Re: Burn the Pedophiles! [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#11695485 - 12/21/09 09:47 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Disclamer: I am not a pedophile.
However I do like jailbait, 15+.
Poast:
Not all pedos are rapists, and seeing as humans can achieve orgasm at ANY age I personally see the stigma against pedophilia as just that a stigma.
If sex is consensual why get so pissed about it?
However I can see why it must be illegal, and no laws arent there to distinguish "right" from "wrong" but to keep social order (which is the same purpose your learned sense of morality serves).
Children are very easily manipulated in to doing things they dont want to do and then never talking about it.
This is why it's illegal, not because there is some magical age when sex goes from being a horrendous atrocity the fitting punishment for which is death to the most beautiful thing in the world.
Why if people thought like that it would be illogical and ridiculous.
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Poid
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awesomebastard said: If sex is consensual why get so pissed about it?
Homo sapiens are incapable of giving consent until they're 18 years old.
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awesomebastard said: However I can see why it must be illegal, and no laws arent there to distinguish "right" from "wrong" but to keep social order (which is the same purpose your learned sense of morality serves).
Would you care to explain how laws which prohibit adults from having sex with a child "keep social order", since you are making this claim?
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awesomebastard said: Children are very easily manipulated in to doing things they dont want to do and then never talking about it.
Not necessarily.
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awesomebastard said: This is why it's illegal, not because there is some magical age when sex goes from being a horrendous atrocity the fitting punishment for which is death to the most beautiful thing in the world.
I'm not sure if that's the only reason why it's illegal...
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awesomebastard said: Why if people thought like that it would be illogical and ridiculous.
Yeah, it would be...
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Re: Burn the Pedophiles! [Re: Poid]
#11695566 - 12/21/09 09:58 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Poid said:
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awesomebastard said: If sex is consensual why get so pissed about it?
Homo sapiens are incapable of giving consent until they're 18 years old.
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awesomebastard said: However I can see why it must be illegal, and no laws arent there to distinguish "right" from "wrong" but to keep social order (which is the same purpose your learned sense of morality serves).
Would you care to explain how laws which prohibit adults from having sex with a child "keep social order", since you are making this claim?
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awesomebastard said: Children are very easily manipulated in to doing things they dont want to do and then never talking about it.
Not necessarily.
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awesomebastard said: This is why it's illegal, not because there is some magical age when sex goes from being a horrendous atrocity the fitting punishment for which is death to the most beautiful thing in the world.
I'm not sure if that's the only reason why it's illegal...
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awesomebastard said: Why if people thought like that it would be illogical and ridiculous.
Yeah, it would be...
I think you need to rethink how you read my posts.
I dont create all these little paragraphs because I'm starting a new topic but because I'm making my post easier to read.
Most of the questions you asked are already awnsered if you think even the tiniest bit and most of the statements you made are a result of you taking the sentence out of context.
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Poid
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Ok.
I'm just examining the specific claims which you are making, regardless of the context; if you don't want to respond to my rebuttals to your claims, then I suppose that is your choice.
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylanfireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
Edited by Poid (12/21/09 10:02 PM)
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abysmal
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Re: Burn the Pedophiles! [Re: Poid]
#11695839 - 12/21/09 10:37 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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silly pedos..
girls do not become attractive until the age of consent.
when will they ever learn?
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Re: Burn the Pedophiles! [Re: abysmal]
#11696116 - 12/21/09 11:18 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think horrible torture should be the punishment because I guarantee that there would be less pedophiles acting on their desirs.
For example if the punishment for taking LSD was 7 years in prison... I'd probably still do it.
If the punishment was wild animals eating me alive, and I survived... only to be shot in the head a few days later... I probably wouldn't.
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RationalEgo
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Re: Burn the Pedophiles! [Re: aghorrorag]
#11696948 - 12/22/09 02:30 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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A long sentence in jail is a sufficient punishment as we all know the kind of justice these sick individuals get in a place like that.
I'm actually a supporter of capital punishment but not for crimes such as these. We also now have chemical castration drugs available so when they get out of prison so we can be reassured of the unlikelihood of crimes of that nature being repeated.
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Lakefingers
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The only thing castration would reassure is that they cannot use their sexual organs as before to commit the crimes. Other objects and means can be found to their ends.
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RationalEgo
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Lakefingers said: The only thing castration would reassure is that they cannot use their sexual organs as before to commit the crimes. Other objects and means can be found to their ends.
I was under the impression that castration eliminated sexual desires.
But sure, we cannot be certain that these people will not re-offend anyway, which is why they should receive harsh sentences and be monitored extensively upon release.
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Lakefingers
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I'm not educated in this area of criminology or psychology, but I thought castration was removing the testicles (producers of testosterone), ovaries or sexual organs, or to rend someone of their power. I suppose if we had very good medication, cut off a male offender's penis and testes, and beat their pedophilic drives into submission then we'll have castrated them so repeat offense is highly unlikely. We must remember though, pedophilia is not driven purely by hormones, but rather fantasy/psychological make-up and that even those castrated after puberty can get erections, have orgasms and sexual fantasies which they can act upon.
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