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 The population issue 
#11691418 - 12/21/09 10:48 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just to start this one off here's a graph representing the situation.
Any questions/answers or ideas in general are welcome.
I'm trying to establish an understanding as to the meaning of the population boom of the human organism on earth... any comparison to similar situations with other organisms is welcome. They may be on a micro-, meso- or macro-scale as you see fit.
Thanks in advance.
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 Re: The population issue [Re: Ahimsa]
#11691447 - 12/21/09 10:54 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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See the terrorists were just doing us a favor.
People need to stop having fucking kids. It's getting a little ridiculous.
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See the terrorists were just doing us a favor.
People need to stop having fucking kids. It's getting a little ridiculous.
how did you get overpopulation from that graph?
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I didn't, I just didn't realize there were actually 8-9 billion people in the world. I got the concept of overpopulation just by looking around. People are having kids all the time and most of them really don't know what they are getting into. Got a friend that wants 13 fucking kids and she doesn't even take care of the 3 she's got correctly. It sickens me.
The 300 million or so we have in the states is already wayyy too much, if I were in China I probably would have gone on a murdering spree by now with absolutely no regrets...the world needs population control before shit gets way too out of hand.
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I didn't, I just didn't realize there were actually 8-9 billion people in the world. I got the concept of overpopulation just by looking around. People are having kids all the time and most of them really don't know what they are getting into. Got a friend that wants 13 fucking kids and she doesn't even take care of the 3 she's got correctly. It sickens me.
that isn't overpopulation, that's not being responsible. Having a kid and not wanting it isn't overpopulation. Overpopulation is too many humans for the earth to handle. See: Carrying capacity
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Re: The population issue *DELETED* [Re: Ahimsa]
#11691632 - 12/21/09 11:25 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Post deleted by senyaReason for deletion: i didnt read the forum rules.
Edited by senya (12/21/09 12:37 PM)
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Oh no they want the kids, that's the problem people are having kids just to have them without even thinking about the responsibility it requires. The reason I bring this up is because this is the cause of overpopulation and that's how you deal with a problem you find it's roots and you deal with it.
But more on the subject, Earth actually can't handle us, we pollute it's ozone, we unleash the power of the sun on it's surface, and we destroy nature and build on top of it all just so we can live our happy little useless lives.
Humans are parasites and need to be dealt with accordingly in my opinion, we don't deserve life any more than any other creature.
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Re: The population issue [Re: senya]
#11691674 - 12/21/09 11:30 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't care what you think, fact is I agree with you but there's no flaming in this forum. If you can't debate without a personal attack then get the fuck out of here.
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highdroponics said:
I didn't, I just didn't realize there were actually 8-9 billion people in the world. I got the concept of overpopulation just by looking around. People are having kids all the time and most of them really don't know what they are getting into. Got a friend that wants 13 fucking kids and she doesn't even take care of the 3 she's got correctly. It sickens me.
that isn't overpopulation, that's not being responsible. Having a kid and not wanting it isn't overpopulation. Overpopulation is too many humans for the earth to handle. See: Carrying capacity
I think over population has more meaning then just carrying capacity no matter what the dictionary sez. So it's going to be subjective for me based on my perception of quality of life.
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Re: The population issue [Re: Icelander]
#11691758 - 12/21/09 11:44 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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It is true we have not reached our carrying capacity, but with the help of modern science we are slowly on our way to reaching it. I don't know why humans don't understand this idea of natural selection and adaptation. We have relied these natural processes for the history of mankind, but now science has made it possible to preserve our genetic fuckups and allow them to pass on their genes. No matter how "evil" it might sound, the weak must die and the strong live on to proliferate the race. What we have allowed is the ruining of our gene pool by not allowing nature to run its course. I'm do not advocate any human kill another human (I'm not talking genocide here), but when someone is born who should've died you are going against nature and allowing the weakening of our gene pool. And in today's age, people with the best genes are not reproducing like rabbits, it's the poor, uneducated and physically inept. And as a whole our genes are weakening by the horrible, preservative laden foods we eat the predispose our bodies to cancers unseen in indigenous peoples, and the synthetic drugs we are force feed in light of natural alternatives that have been made illegal. God bless America.
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In China the population is so high each family is legally only allowed 1 child.
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This guy speaks some truth!
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In China the population is so high each family is legally only allowed 1 child.
Which is why they're facing a population crisis and the government is relaxing this limitation and even actively campaigning for couples to have more children in some areas.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/11/AR2009121104378.html
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There is no problem, population is self correcting. Whether that correction be disease, famine, or our own genocide. No one will make it, everybody is gonna die. This planet is TOTALLY fucked. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but your life's history, and all of human history, will be forgotten, meaningless, useless, insignificant.
I hope you're having fun.
Edited by xFrockx (12/21/09 11:58 AM)
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Ok, you sound like a liberal hitler, but maybe you think about why the "weak people" are what they are.
Edited by xFrockx (12/21/09 12:00 PM)
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But more on the subject, Earth actually can't handle us, we pollute it's ozone, we unleash the power of the sun on it's surface, and we destroy nature and build on top of it all just so we can live our happy little useless lives.
Did the Earth tell you that, personally?
Seriously, I am interested to know how exactly you managed to find out that the Earth can't handle us.
Also, you sound like we're not supposed to be here, and that we shouldn't build stuff, and live our lives exactly how we need and want. What gave you this impression?
It cracks me up when people say stuff like "we're not supposed to be here", "we're not supposed to do that", and other ridiculous claims, while they're still living, breathing and polluting themselves. Who says we're not supposed to do these things, and who says people even have to care about their environment?
Is a huge meteorite not supposed to hit planets, completely destroying them, just because it's going on it's "little useless" journey"?
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Isn't the earth useless without us? All the stupid animals are totally usless without humans. We are what gives things use. Man is the measure.
Edited by xFrockx (12/21/09 12:01 PM)
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Re: The population issue [Re: senya]
#11691859 - 12/21/09 12:01 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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oh so you think you know it all huh? you sound like an asshole and you probably are since youre so concerned that somebody interpreted a graph differently than you. the people who are having too many kids are the ones who are contributing to creating an overpopulated earth. some peoples description of "overpopulation" may differ from yours and its not like youre the fucking dictionary anyway. the earth currently has almost 7 billion people and at the rate we are going today, we will become overpopulated before this century is over.
rofl ok
Overpopulation is a condition where an organism's numbers exceed the carrying capacity of its habitat... Overpopulation does not depend only on the size or density of the population, but on the ratio of population to available sustainable resources.
case and point, the graph said nothing about the ratio of people to resources.
calm down bro ur vibes arent very hetty
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Edited by learningtofly (12/21/09 12:10 PM)
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Re: The population issue [Re: xFrockx]
#11691867 - 12/21/09 12:04 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Most likely true.
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What we have allowed is the ruining of our gene pool by not allowing nature to run its course. I'm do not advocate any human kill another human (I'm not talking genocide here), but when someone is born who should've died you are going against nature and allowing the weakening of our gene pool.
Your subjective judgment of a weakening gene pool does not hold up.
No one knows what genetic traits will be selected for, no do any of us really know what genetic traits each of us possess. Phenotype =/= genotype.
Evolution decides, not you. And unless you've learned to see the future, there is no telling what is a valued trait or not in the eyes of an ever changing world. Intelligence could very well be a trait that wipes everyone out, not something to be desired  We don't know at all whether or not humans are adaptive creatures yet -- we haven't been around that long.
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