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veils opening before the fruits get big
    #11599067 - 12/06/09 08:26 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

the veils are opening when the fruit is only about 2-3 inches tall they are not getting that big .. can i do something to improve the size of my fruits

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Re: veils opening before the fruits get big [Re: mountainman01]
    #11599072 - 12/06/09 08:27 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Fruits mature when they want its genetics. Use Gypsum next time it helps with bigger fruits

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Re: veils opening before the fruits get big [Re: Shea25]
    #11599086 - 12/06/09 08:30 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

How deep is your substrate? That plays a large factor in size.


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Re: veils opening before the fruits get big [Re: dancefloordale]
    #11599112 - 12/06/09 08:33 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

so does moisture content in your sub
too dry or wet can cause small fruits

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Re: veils opening before the fruits get big [Re: dancefloordale]
    #11599114 - 12/06/09 08:34 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

this is my first time to do this so I used the pf teck brf cakes

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Re: veils opening before the fruits get big [Re: mountainman01]
    #11599119 - 12/06/09 08:35 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Yea I thought so add gypsum like I said 1 tablespoon per 5 jars

This link shows you how to mix it in your cakes http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11585613/fpart/1

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Re: veils opening before the fruits get big [Re: Shea25]
    #11599134 - 12/06/09 08:36 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Don't expect big fruits from cakes. It just doesn't happen (rarely).


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Re: veils opening before the fruits get big [Re: mountainman01]
    #11599137 - 12/06/09 08:37 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

one table spoon of gypsum per 5 jars will really make that much of a difference? Where can gypsum be bought?


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Re: veils opening before the fruits get big [Re: dancefloordale]
    #11599150 - 12/06/09 08:39 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Not true I got these off cake






Just get some ordinary dry wall smash it up then powderize it. or you have get it from nurseries. I really find that gypsum makes a difference

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Re: veils opening before the fruits get big [Re: Shea25]
    #11599173 - 12/06/09 08:42 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Right. I didn't think those were big. Most look to be around 2-3 inches unless you've got some monster plates there.


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Re: veils opening before the fruits get big [Re: dancefloordale]
    #11599185 - 12/06/09 08:44 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

First dinner plate it just over 11 inches square it is a big plate the round one is in the sink with other dishes on top of it so I have no idea how big it is.

Theres a few monsters ( for cakes that is) I find every flush at least give a few big guys

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Re: veils opening before the fruits get big [Re: Shea25]
    #11599212 - 12/06/09 08:47 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

It's good to put dry wall in your mix? o_O

shea, didn't you grow that cake in a bottle FC?


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Re: veils opening before the fruits get big [Re: Shea25]
    #11599218 - 12/06/09 08:48 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

In general, cakes will always give smaller shrooms than bulk. You're right though, they do pump out larger ones sometimes.

To the OP, fruit size does not really matter, but if you want consistently larger shrooms, you'll need to move to bulk.

Drywall is gypsum.


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Re: veils opening before the fruits get big [Re: Sagescruffy]
    #11599226 - 12/06/09 08:49 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

how would you go about getting dry wall and then grinding it up into a powder?


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Re: veils opening before the fruits get big [Re: Sagescruffy]
    #11599229 - 12/06/09 08:50 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Yep I did. in dry wall is gypsum which is calcium sulfate which is very beneficial to mushroom development.

I smash it up in a bag with a hammer then peel most the paper off it then coffee grind it.

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Re: veils opening before the fruits get big [Re: Sagescruffy] * 1
    #11599252 - 12/06/09 08:53 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I don't have a coffee grinder, what else could I use to ground it up? Have you done a side by side comparison of gypsum vs no gypsum?


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Re: veils opening before the fruits get big [Re: Sagescruffy]
    #11599256 - 12/06/09 08:54 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

a blender

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not sure what GE and FAE are but i should probably get some.

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Re: veils opening before the fruits get big [Re: Sagescruffy]
    #11599262 - 12/06/09 08:55 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I have done alot of cakes before not using it and then cakes using it and could see the difference it makes. I would never go back to not using it

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Re: veils opening before the fruits get big [Re: Sagescruffy]
    #11599268 - 12/06/09 08:56 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

hammer.  I haven't noticed a difference using it or not. same for coffee. just grain and hpoo, or grain and coir, seems to work great.


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Re: veils opening before the fruits get big [Re: Sagescruffy]
    #11599290 - 12/06/09 09:00 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Bah, freaking gypsum. I honestly don't have a blender either lol. what type of mushroom is that in your third pic?

Shea, so the cake in your avie is the bottle fc one, right? All you did for that was pour perlite on a plate, place cake and cover with bottle? ou misted through the top and also blew through it for FAE?


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