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Any deadly look alikes of Psilocybe pelliculosa?
    #11566174 - 12/01/09 08:51 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Are there any deadly or harmfull look alikes to the Psilocybe pelliculosa mushroom? And anybody that knows alot about them feel free to tell me what to look for when identifying them. If anything stands out.

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Re: Any deadly look alikes of Psilocybe pelliculosa? [Re: Wterdog]
    #11566287 - 12/01/09 09:08 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

There are some deadly Galerina and Conocybe species that look similar.

Something like this

http://mushroomobserver.org/observer/observation_search?pattern=Galerina+vittaeformis

If you check the spore print color you will be fine.  There are no toxic lookalikes that have dark purple brown spores.

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Re: Any deadly look alikes of Psilocybe pelliculosa? [Re: Wterdog]
    #11566290 - 12/01/09 09:08 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)


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Re: Any deadly look alikes of Psilocybe pelliculosa? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #11566333 - 12/01/09 09:13 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

does that go for all shrooms? If it has a Dark purple brown spore print you know for sure it isnt toxic?

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Re: Any deadly look alikes of Psilocybe pelliculosa? [Re: Wterdog]
    #11566359 - 12/01/09 09:17 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

The only mushroom with a dark purple brown spore print that is toxic is Hypholoma fasciculare.

I guess Leratiomyces ceres is a bit toxic too but not that bad...

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Re: Any deadly look alikes of Psilocybe pelliculosa? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #11566460 - 12/01/09 09:31 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Would you guys still be able to adentify some mushrooms I suspect to be pelliculosa if they are drying/dried? Or will that make it hard to tell, considering how small they get.

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Re: Any deadly look alikes of Psilocybe pelliculosa? [Re: Wterdog]
    #11566495 - 12/01/09 09:37 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

It makes it hard to tell, but not impossible, if the pictures are good.

Make sure you take the pictures with a digital camera and enable macro mode.  Do not use a cell phone.  Blurry pics of dried mushrooms are almost worthless.

It is very unlikely that you found Psilocybe pelliculosa.  You probably have a Mycena or Psathyrella or Galerina or Conocybe or Baeospora or something else.  For starters, check the gill color on dried mature specimens and report back.

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Re: Any deadly look alikes of Psilocybe pelliculosa? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #11566631 - 12/01/09 09:56 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

the gills are an off dusty white color. They havent droped any prints on the white napkin I have them on

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Re: Any deadly look alikes of Psilocybe pelliculosa? [Re: Wterdog]
    #11566755 - 12/01/09 10:13 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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the gills are an off dusty white color.




U got a Mycena there bud.

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Re: Any deadly look alikes of Psilocybe pelliculosa? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #11567074 - 12/01/09 10:57 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

yup. learn about mycenas because they will waste all your time if your hunting pelliculosas and dont know about them. they are pretty easily recognised with a quick glance once you know what they look like.at first just look at the gills,if they are white its not right. then when you see a real pelli,well it will always be more than one, it will stand out. the gills will be dark.
they will resemble liberty caps in a way,they will have a viscid pellice, if it doesnt dont bother printing it unless you want to print every small brown mushroom in the forest .and like alan said it will have purple brown spores if you do print them.
been a while since ive found them. ive read clear cuts are good within the first few years or something but ive only found them in the forest myself. i havent dedicated too much time to them but next year i am going to  make a point to do it.
good luck,i hope this helped.


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Re: Any deadly look alikes of Psilocybe pelliculosa? [Re: Wterdog]
    #11567097 - 12/01/09 11:01 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Wterdog said:
Are there any deadly or harmfull look alikes to the Psilocybe pelliculosa mushroom?




All mushrooms look the same to the non-observant person and different to those who can see.

The Philosophy of Morphology, page 27.


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Re: Any deadly look alikes of Psilocybe pelliculosa? [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #11567506 - 12/02/09 12:15 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Ok thanks il keep that in mind. Thats the problem when I go out on my shroom hunts. Iv been studying active ones for a few weeks now and going out and lookint at them almost everyday. I just find so many different looking ones, it gets overwealming and I can never remember exactly what to be looking for. Anybody have any tips for what shrooms to give my attention to when im looking? If i cant identifiy them on the field right of the bat

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Re: Any deadly look alikes of Psilocybe pelliculosa? [Re: Wterdog]
    #11689732 - 12/20/09 11:31 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

There is a look-alike that often grows near pelliculosa, at least in the Pacific Redwoods. It has the same shape and even a darkish nipple, but is clearish grey and the stem is translucent. Pelliculosa is brown and opaque.  I don't know if this imposter is deadly or not, and haven't actually identified it beyond "not pelliculosa".

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Re: Any deadly look alikes of Psilocybe pelliculosa? [Re: saintide]
    #11689833 - 12/20/09 11:48 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

One tip on pelliculosa hunting for you wterdog -go slow, walk and sit down. get into places that are untouched forest, like off trail in big parks, etc. places deep in the forest that stay damp but get some sunlight are good. pelliculosa are really small so you have to tune in to the ground really carefully.

also, believe it or not, making a deal with the mushroom about where its going to pop up will work.  if you choose to try this, make the deal way in advance of your hunt by connecting consciously with the spirit of the mushroom and express your intentions to consume it and that you respect it as your teacher and guide. watch carefully for synchronistic signs leading you to a forested area, not even necessarily on a "mushroom hunt" but possibly at any time in your life. be aware and follow your intuition to where the mushroom will reveal itself. mushrooms found this way will be powerful, gentle teachers.

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Re: Any deadly look alikes of Psilocybe pelliculosa? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #13687956 - 12/26/10 07:27 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Leratiomyces ceres has been identified in my back yard. Lots of them. I have a beloved dog who needs to use the back yard. Is she in serious danger if she decides to sample these?

I also have Hohenbuehelia petaloides back there.

I'd just like to know how worried I have to be about what would happen to my dog if she ingests these things.

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Re: Any deadly look alikes of Psilocybe pelliculosa? [Re: kateg]
    #13688492 - 12/26/10 09:31 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

They all look alike until your eye is trained.  Nothing beats experience.  :laugh:

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