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shivathedestroyer
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anyone figured out how to do the sterile needle/sponge trick with pf jars?
#11091142 - 09/19/09 07:51 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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i was just admiring this post from citric:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10636495
and wondered if this could be used with a pf jar?
i figure you'd get alcohol dripping down from the sponge? maybe im thinking too much alcohol?
could you make self healing pf lids?
any tips would be cool.
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feelfunny
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Re: anyone figured out how to do the sterile needle/sponge trick with pf jars? [Re: shivathedestroyer]
#11091181 - 09/19/09 07:59 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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you cant use self healing lids the myc needs to breath
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Re: anyone figured out how to do the sterile needle/sponge trick with pf jars? [Re: feelfunny]
#11091184 - 09/19/09 07:59 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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oh and just don't use to much alcohol and it wont drip
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veda_sticks
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Re: anyone figured out how to do the sterile needle/sponge trick with pf jars? [Re: feelfunny]
#11091230 - 09/19/09 08:07 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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feelfunny said: you cant use self healing lids the myc needs to breath
yes you can. If you use self healing injection sites, you will need an extra hole with a filter for gas echange.
a 1/4 inch hole in the middle should be plenty for gas exchange. The advantage of this aswell is you dont need a dry verm layer.
I should my mate this and its all hes using now for pf cakes, 4 self helaing injkectings sites and a micropore taped hole in the middle.
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feelfunny
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Re: anyone figured out how to do the sterile needle/sponge trick with pf jars? [Re: veda_sticks]
#11091265 - 09/19/09 08:11 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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that would be modified from the tek the lid by its self is not going to work. i agree that if you change it from the tek it will work but ether way it has to be modified.
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shivathedestroyer
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Re: anyone figured out how to do the sterile needle/sponge trick with pf jars? [Re: feelfunny]
#11093002 - 09/20/09 01:42 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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i had kinda figured to add air exchange, i heard tyvek is good for this?
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oobajoob
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Re: anyone figured out how to do the sterile needle/sponge trick with pf jars? [Re: shivathedestroyer]
#11093013 - 09/20/09 01:46 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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i wouldnt fuck with it. the simple fact that this isnt the 100% accepted method for innoculating pf jars, it obviously isnt as good as the good ol' dry verm barrier and holes in the lid.
like i always say, if it aint broke, dont fix it.
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Re: anyone figured out how to do the sterile needle/sponge trick with pf jars? [Re: oobajoob]
#11093022 - 09/20/09 01:49 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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my lids have 2 rtv silicone ports and a 1 1/2" tyvek discs for "breathing". Instead of a sponge i just flamed the needle and used a paper towel soaked in alcohol. other than that difference I did pretty much the same thing. I'm a noob. I only inoculated 6 jars. I didn't have any contams. WBS but it shouldn't matter.
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Re: anyone figured out how to do the sterile needle/sponge trick with pf jars? [Re: NoOneKnowsHowToAct]
#11093426 - 09/20/09 05:28 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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dry verm and a simple layer of aluminum foil haven't steered me wrong yet with pf..
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Re: anyone figured out how to do the sterile needle/sponge trick with pf jars? [Re: subject]
#11093502 - 09/20/09 06:13 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes i use it on PF tek to
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Re: anyone figured out how to do the sterile needle/sponge trick with pf jars? [Re: dstark]
#11096406 - 09/20/09 06:34 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you wanted to make lids like mine for PF jars, you would have to modify it. Here is a shitty paint job.
The red dots are your injection ports, and the middle would be just like on the original lid. A cut out with tyvek silicone. This would also give you a LITTLE bit more substrate, as you would not need a dry verm layer.
I have not tested this as I have only done PF jars once in my life.
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Re: anyone figured out how to do the sterile needle/sponge trick with pf jars? [Re: shivathedestroyer]
#11096712 - 09/20/09 07:34 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
shivathedestroyer said: i was just admiring this post from citric:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10636495
and wondered if this could be used with a pf jar?
i figure you'd get alcohol dripping down from the sponge? maybe im thinking too much alcohol?
could you make self healing pf lids?
any tips would be cool.
i use it with self healing lc's and pf tek jars
alc drips into the jar, unless you squeeze most of the alc out
i try to not get alc in my jars, but it does, and the jars are fine
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Re: anyone figured out how to do the sterile needle/sponge trick with pf jars? [Re: tektonic]
#11097008 - 09/20/09 08:37 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I just dipped the tip of the needle in a shot glass filled with 90% IPA. Seemed to work out for me, although that's the only time I shot spores.
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shivathedestroyer
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Re: anyone figured out how to do the sterile needle/sponge trick with pf jars? [Re: fundamentalchair]
#11101030 - 09/21/09 03:14 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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im so worried about contams i'd still use the dry verm layer.
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fundamentalchair
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Re: anyone figured out how to do the sterile needle/sponge trick with pf jars? [Re: shivathedestroyer]
#11101751 - 09/21/09 05:28 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I thought you were just looking for a way to cool the needle down before injecting. I know I have to do something to keep the poly fill from melting to my injection port.
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Re: anyone figured out how to do the sterile needle/sponge trick with pf jars? [Re: fundamentalchair]
#11101774 - 09/21/09 05:33 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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why would you even want to??
glovebox ipa cleaned gloved hands flame needle red hot leave cool for 10 seconds inject, oh no a little sissle my spores are dying!! the rest flows fine job done
90% IPA isnt as effective as 70%, besides alcohol is a sanitiser.
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Re: anyone figured out how to do the sterile needle/sponge trick with pf jars? [Re: veda_sticks]
#11101783 - 09/21/09 05:35 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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its officially veda has gone on a thread closing spree almost glad you cant
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Re: anyone figured out how to do the sterile needle/sponge trick with pf jars? [Re: feelfunny]
#11101901 - 09/21/09 05:57 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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When shooting spores, I didn't have a glovebox at the time. Also, I use polyfill for gas exchange and hot needles melt the poly.
While 70% is better for sanitizing due to the water keeping it around longer, I was just using it as a sterile environment to cool my needle down. 90% didn't burst into flames, so it seemed to get the job accomplished.
I dilute my 90 down to 60-70 when using it as a sanitizer but use the 90 in my lamp, btw.
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