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loonyshroomy
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fruiting wbs jars, whats the best way?
#11078618 - 09/17/09 06:00 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think some of my wbs jars will be ready in a few days to a week, and I am wondering what is the best way to fruit them, without using the bulk/straw method? Can I case them like normal?
Edited by loonyshroomy (09/17/09 06:14 PM)
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Re: fruiting wbs jars, whats the best way? [Re: loonyshroomy]
#11078623 - 09/17/09 06:01 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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yeah. just do a good old fashion casing TEK. i personally am not a fan of WBS but have used it in the past. got pretty good results. good luck.
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loonyshroomy
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Re: fruiting wbs jars, whats the best way? [Re: loonyshroomy]
#11078714 - 09/17/09 06:16 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sorry for the blurry pics, but here is a sample of my 5 wbs jars.
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Re: fruiting wbs jars, whats the best way? [Re: myco_mikey_mo]
#11078715 - 09/17/09 06:16 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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You dont need to case it.
Spawning to bulk is the best way to go and then if you feel you need a casing layer then add one.
But you dont want to just use the spawn on its own, you wont get nearly out of it as you should.
I think most people like to go with horse poo but if you cant get that coir is prolly your second bet.
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Re: fruiting wbs jars, whats the best way? [Re: elemental420]
#11078959 - 09/17/09 06:55 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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you may mix with 50% field capacity vermiculite in a tray. cover, let recolonize, then case and place in a FC.
its not quite bulk, but will yeild better due to moisture replenishment. its called the 'rez-effect'
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loonyshroomy
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Re: fruiting wbs jars, whats the best way? [Re: galadar]
#11079087 - 09/17/09 07:16 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well, I was trying to stay away from the "bulk" method for now.
And as for mixing it, can I mix it in a vmc/brf substrate, or just mix w/ vmc and then case like a cake?
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Re: fruiting wbs jars, whats the best way? [Re: loonyshroomy]
#11079131 - 09/17/09 07:23 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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mix it with sterilised feild capacity verm at a 1:1 or 1:2 ratio.
casing isnt nessesary if you maintain proper fruiting conditions.
the verm will hold more than enough moisture for fruiting, a casing layer wont really benifit unless your fruiting conditions are sub par.
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Re: fruiting wbs jars, whats the best way? [Re: veda_sticks]
#11079192 - 09/17/09 07:29 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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1/2 WBS jar done with verm the way veda_sticks said worked great
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Re: fruiting wbs jars, whats the best way? [Re: feelfunny]
#11079267 - 09/17/09 07:37 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Im with veda but you dont need to sterilise the verm.
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Re: fruiting wbs jars, whats the best way? [Re: badman]
#11079345 - 09/17/09 07:46 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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i do and it is a good idea, why get slack now??
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Re: fruiting wbs jars, whats the best way? [Re: feelfunny]
#11079407 - 09/17/09 07:52 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I dont, never fucked me up yet. Just a hassle plus waste of energy when you dont need to. Pasturise would be better but i personally wouldnt bother.
Just a bit prangy to PC verm for 60 mins or more
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Re: fruiting wbs jars, whats the best way? [Re: badman]
#11079416 - 09/17/09 07:53 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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i just put in the oen for 30 min. not a big deal and would hate for that to be the thing that fucked him up
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Re: fruiting wbs jars, whats the best way? [Re: feelfunny]
#11079493 - 09/17/09 08:01 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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you dont need to sterilize it. vermiculite is naturally sterile from the process it is formed.
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badman
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Re: fruiting wbs jars, whats the best way? [Re: feelfunny]
#11079495 - 09/17/09 08:02 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah good point.
It works for me but may well fuck his grow up.
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loonyshroomy
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Re: fruiting wbs jars, whats the best way? [Re: feelfunny]
#11079774 - 09/17/09 08:42 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, its funny you brought up the oven, because thats what I was thinking of doing instead of a PC.
Also, about how long does it seem the wbs jars have until I can fruit them?
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Re: fruiting wbs jars, whats the best way? [Re: loonyshroomy]
#11079780 - 09/17/09 08:43 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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i have 26 qts of wbs spawn. Been in the fridge for 2 weeks waiting till i can spawn them to bulk. Throw them in the fridge and you can store them for a period of time.
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