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 cell_491
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 DMT extraction, naptha not seperating 
#10933404 - 08/25/09 10:49 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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SWIM is extracting N,N-DMT from MHRB powder using this tek
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/6931010/an/0/page/3
Ingredients were 1 liter of water + 100grams of NaOH then 225grams of MHRB powder let that sit for 1 hour then added 300ml of VM&P naptha stirred for 30 min. Now its sitting waiting for the naptha to rise to the top so it can be pulled off. It's been 30min and it is still completely mixed together (black tar looking consistency) no signs of separation. What could be done to speed seperation? Could one gently heat it?
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Re: DMT extraction, naptha not seperating [Re: cell_491]
#10933460 - 08/25/09 11:03 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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you don't really want to stir the naptha and NaOH mixture, you want to have a very tight fitting lid and roll whatever glass vessel contains the mixture end over end. stirring shouldn't hurt your yield though, just slow the process a bit.
just let it sit and separate at room temperature. have a little faith and and the naptha will float to the top, it may take a couple of hours
good luck
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 FryinHard
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Re: DMT extraction, naptha not seperating [Re: cell_491]
#10933489 - 08/25/09 11:08 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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the tek your following is crap. STB works much better.
as for your current situation.... apply heat, and the emulsion will clear. what are you mixing in?
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cell_491
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Re: DMT extraction, naptha not seperating [Re: cell_491]
#10933813 - 08/25/09 12:01 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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smacks self in face.... shouldn't have left it uncovered, I guess it was evaporating as fast as it separated. trying again now.
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cell_491
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Re: DMT extraction, naptha not seperating [Re: FryinHard]
#10933976 - 08/25/09 12:19 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
FryinHard said:
the tek your following is crap. STB works much better.
as for your current situation.... apply heat, and the emulsion will clear. what are you mixing in?
mixing in a now covered stainless steel pot... Btw why is this tek crap? from what ive read people have had good success with it, we'll see though, so far it isn't promising.
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Re: DMT extraction, naptha not seperating [Re: cell_491]
#10934223 - 08/25/09 01:00 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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for starters, 3-4 hours is pushing it. you cant see through your mixing bowl can you? its going to be hard for you to seperate your naptha like this. on top of that, i have never been a fan of evaporating to get the bulk of my yeilds. freeze precip yeilds MUCH cleaner product. i only evap when i have finished all of my pulls.
its very likely that your naptha has seperated, and you just cant tell cause your looking at it from a birds eye view.
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cell_491
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Re: DMT extraction, naptha not seperating [Re: FryinHard]
#10934946 - 08/25/09 02:43 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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ok tried again, stirred for 30min then let sit. Pulled off naptha with baster put in evap dish. Let evap under fan for 2 hours, got absolutely no yield whatsoever, just a very thin film that amounted to nothing when scraped. Went ahead and put the mixture into large mason jars, will be switching to the other tek after the jars sit overnight.
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cell_491
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Re: DMT extraction, naptha not seperating [Re: cell_491]
#10936089 - 08/25/09 05:48 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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is there anyway to separate it if it has been emulsified?
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dysphoria
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Re: DMT extraction, naptha not seperating [Re: cell_491]
#10936864 - 08/25/09 07:26 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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heat, time.
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Re: DMT extraction, naptha not seperating [Re: dysphoria]
#10937115 - 08/25/09 08:00 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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heat (85-100degrees)
rock salt or
add more lye
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cell_491
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Re: DMT extraction, naptha not seperating [Re: moe.phan]
#10937696 - 08/25/09 09:15 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
moe.phan said:
heat (85-100degrees)
rock salt or
add more lye
what should the PH be? .. wouldn't want to add too much extra lye. Could one heat it using the microwave?
Edited by cell_491 (08/25/09 09:18 PM)
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moe.phan
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Re: DMT extraction, naptha not seperating [Re: cell_491]
#10937810 - 08/25/09 09:41 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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no, no microwave. set it on a cable tv box or something. something that stays warm, but not hot. don't ever microwave any drugs.
don't worry about the ph. if you have an emulsion that won't seperate, try rock salt first. you cant put in too much. put some in and roll your jar. let it sit for a while and repeat a few times, adding more salt. if that doesn't work, add a tablespoon of lye at a time, dissolved in as little water as possible. it mixes easier that way. you can add straight lye if you don't have the room for extra water. don't worry about adding too much.
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Re: DMT extraction, naptha not seperating [Re: cell_491]
#10939066 - 08/26/09 12:57 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
cell_491 said:
SWIM is extracting N,N-DMT from MHRB powder using this tek
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/6931010/an/0/page/3
Ingredients were 1 liter of water + 100grams of NaOH then 225grams of MHRB powder let that sit for 1 hour then added 300ml of VM&P naptha stirred for 30 min. Now its sitting waiting for the naptha to rise to the top so it can be pulled off. It's been 30min and it is still completely mixed together (black tar looking consistency) no signs of separation. What could be done to speed seperation? Could one gently heat it?
When I did it in a large pot, I didnt actually see it seperate, it was just the top layer. Are you sure that you're just looking for something that isn't gonna happen? It definitely didn't look like how it does in the mason jars, just pour it off and let it evap.
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Re: DMT extraction, naptha not seperating [Re: learningtofly]
#10939091 - 08/26/09 01:02 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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moar lye
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Re: DMT extraction, naptha not seperating [Re: notapillow]
#10939724 - 08/26/09 03:49 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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No!! do nothing it needs time for the separation.
Dont hurry leave it for 24 hours untouched and i promise it will be separated.
I promise it 
EDIT : 100grams of NaOH then 225grams of MHRB
You need more NaOH at least 125grams more and then mix it again and let it for 24 hours into darkness then pull the Naptha you lucky guy
Edited by albien5 (08/26/09 03:52 AM)
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Re: DMT extraction, naptha not seperating [Re: albien5]
#10939812 - 08/26/09 04:48 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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wow. apparently i didn't read the OP well enough. i thought it was an emulsion he was dealing with.
make sure there is no naptha in the solution. definitely add more lye. equal parts of lye and bark, gram for gram. mix this solution well and let sit for at least 12 hrs. 24 hrs is better.
once the solution is ready for naptha, add 150ml of naptha and mix well, but don't shake. seal it in a mason jar and turn it end over end and let seperate completely. do this several times. then pull your naptha and freeze precip.
if you have any questions, follow this tek. its idiot proof.
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Re: DMT extraction, naptha not seperating [Re: moe.phan]
#10939852 - 08/26/09 05:14 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
once the solution is ready for naptha, add 150ml of naptha and mix well, but don't shake
This is a very brand new idea thank you , it will take all the crystals left amazing!
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moe.phan
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Re: DMT extraction, naptha not seperating [Re: albien5]
#10939980 - 08/26/09 06:47 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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sarcasm? i'm just trying to help you out, man.
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albien5
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Re: DMT extraction, naptha not seperating [Re: moe.phan]
#10939983 - 08/26/09 06:50 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
moe.phan said:
sarcasm? i'm just trying to help you out, man.
No not at all i am not the OP , i wrote the same as you did , the think i liked is to add Naptha after the first shake. I am making DMT for years now and this i believe can improve a lot the yield.
No sarcasm at all!
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Re: DMT extraction, naptha not separating [Re: albien5]
#10940034 - 08/26/09 07:13 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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okay, i got ya.
once the naptha is added, shaking the mixture will only result in an emulsion forming(which is the last thing you want). gentle mixing is all that is required.
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