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The Spiritual Power of Place part 2
    #10705174 - 07/19/09 05:19 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

More and more I am struck that Carlos Castaneda's ideas  about certain places on the earth having a more powerful effect on awareness than others is quite correct. He envisioned it as power spots where energies bubble to the surface. He is quite poetic about the implications of this, but on the surface it just sounds like horse shit. In reality there ARE points on the earth that influence our perceptions more than others. They ARE points where the Earth's energies were aligned in just the proper way to have the effect that they have. Of course you don't need special vision to see this "energy" as it is quite obvious to any one inclined to "see".

I went to such a spot today. I included an image. It is obvious that this spot is special in many ways. The Earth's "energy" breaking through in a vast display is clearly visible. It was a good half days walk to see this, but my perception was severely enhanced by the experience. This has imparted an energy to me that will be with me for a long time.


To gain a beneficial effect from such places one needs to open themselves to what is there. I mean view it with full presence of mind. Leave the baggage at home and open ones self to the beauty and majesty of the experience. It has the power to change your life in ways that seem almost magical.

At the invitation of fellow forum member Icelander I once went to view the California Red Woods with him. He joked about it having a profound effect on me, but it did. I came alive then in many ways that I had been dead. The effect echoes in  my life to this day...and it brought me here...which is an awesome place these days to be sure.


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Re: The Spiritual Power of Place part 3 [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #10705194 - 07/19/09 05:23 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: The Spiritual Power of Place part 2 [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #10705344 - 07/19/09 06:01 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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Of course you don't need special vision to see this "energy" as it is quite obvious to any one inclined to "see".





Not to bust your chops, Hue, but you do realize every single religious and mystical nut has used a variation of this line. On here and M&P, the tally is up to 1078.


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Re: The Spiritual Power of Place part 2 [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #10705362 - 07/19/09 06:05 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

It doesn't matter. Do you deny that places on the Earth all change perception? That is pretty basic actually. If I go to the bank it affects me differently than if I go to the library. Nothing new age there. The energy I perceive at the bank is clearly different from the library's energies. Today I stood in a place that looked like the edge of creation, and it affected me accordingly.


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Re: The Spiritual Power of Place part 2 [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #10705368 - 07/19/09 06:05 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

When large numbers of people are all independently claiming the same thing, I take that as an indicator that they might be onto something. If they were all just nuts, it seems far more likely that their claims and descriptions would be wildly dissimilar.


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Re: The Spiritual Power of Place part 2 [Re: laserpig]
    #10705379 - 07/19/09 06:08 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Everything we perceive is just energy that we put into a physical frame of reference. This is just plain boring science. That these energies affect us every one knows....it is just everyday life. Sometimes the effect if profound.

If more people recognized this we would need fewer Walmarts. Places of beauty might be higher priority.


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Re: The Spiritual Power of Place part 2 [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #10705390 - 07/19/09 06:10 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

What I object to is your tautology that those who do not perceive as you do are somehow blind or flawed. This is the common error I am talking about. "Skeptics cannot detect auras because they are of a lower vibrational level."

One can be affected by places without any mysterious 'earth energy' being added to the mix.


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Re: The Spiritual Power of Place part 2 [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #10705403 - 07/19/09 06:14 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

There is no aura to see and anyone who pays attention can see beauty. There is nothing mystical about my post. If we pay attention to such places they impact our awareness...not just me...even you. Belief is not necessary, only that one look. The power is undeniable. Of course this will work with negative places too...like the site of a bomb explosion with scattered body parts. That is also powerful


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Re: The Spiritual Power of Place part 2 [Re: laserpig]
    #10705406 - 07/19/09 06:14 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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When large numbers of people are all independently claiming the same thing, I take that as an indicator that they might be onto something. If they were all just nuts, it seems far more likely that their claims and descriptions would be wildly dissimilar.




Really, You have never heard of the power of suggestion? I went to the 'power spots' in Sedona and while beautiful, felt nothing extraordinary.

As always, I back my position entirely (unlike anyone else here.) I will wager (you fill in the blank - $$$) that blind people brought to random spots with a 'power spot' mixed in will be unable to detect them without physical cues from either another person or nature (sound of waves breaking, waterfall, etc.)


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Re: The Spiritual Power of Place part 2 [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #10705412 - 07/19/09 06:17 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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There is no aura to see ...




Sorry to hear that you are so locked in as to be unable to perceive such energy. :pirate:


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Re: The Spiritual Power of Place part 2 [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #10705416 - 07/19/09 06:17 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Those who do not see what I am discussing just did not look or go to the place. If you had been with me today I guarantee that it would have commanded your whole attention just standing in that place. I could easily demonstrate as this place is close to where I live. Any visitor could go there. Then you would tell me that this had no effect on your consciousness? Right.


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Re: The Spiritual Power of Place part 2 [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #10705442 - 07/19/09 06:23 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Dude, I was a nature photographer for a long time and a major remote wilderness hiker. But what I call visual impact is what I call visual impact. No more; no less.



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Re: The Spiritual Power of Place part 2 [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #10705447 - 07/19/09 06:25 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Has it ever occurred to you that a place of great beauty or great ugliness is powerful? Power spots are not magical...they are just places.


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Re: The Spiritual Power of Place part 2 [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #10705448 - 07/19/09 06:25 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

For the record, I love your 'Easter Island' cliff photo! :thumbup:


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Re: The Spiritual Power of Place part 2 [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #10705459 - 07/19/09 06:27 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

So you do agree that blind people will be unable to detect such places? Case closed.


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Re: The Spiritual Power of Place part 2 [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #10705464 - 07/19/09 06:29 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

I get way more than visual impact. I absorb the look, smell, sounds, tactile sensations of wild places. It inspires me and makes me want to act and do things. So, I act on this. This simple concept has really helped me to be more aware and my life has changed from it for the better. If all you get is visual impact maybe you need medical attention...lol. Your other senses and your ability to process emotions might be impaired.


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Re: The Spiritual Power of Place part 2 [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #10705473 - 07/19/09 06:33 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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If all you get is visual impact maybe you need medical attention...lol




Yoo hoo, oh DeCypher...

What you state is very profound. Those places that effect you deeply are those places that effect you deeply.


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Re: The Spiritual Power of Place part 2 [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #10705475 - 07/19/09 06:33 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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So you do agree that blind people will be unable to detect such places? Case closed.




The blind can perceive with the other senses...and powerfully. Case open.


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Re: The Spiritual Power of Place part 2 [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #10705488 - 07/19/09 06:35 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Despite your declaration, you will fail to accept my challenge. (I get so tired of being right all the time. *sigh*)


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Re: The Spiritual Power of Place part 2 [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #10705492 - 07/19/09 06:36 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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For the record, I love your 'Easter Island' cliff photo! :thumbup:




We got the Easter Island shit going on around here quite nicely I think.



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