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All American 921 not reaching 15PSI
    #10568989 - 06/25/09 03:17 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I just did a test run with the pressure cooker for the first time and it doesn't reach 15psi because of the weight. I filled it with about 2 inch's of water and set the weight to 15psi and the PC gets to 12-13psi then lets out steam. When I hold the weight down it will reach 15psi no problem but it lets out steam and goes back down to 12-13 when I let go. Any idea what the problem is?

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Re: All American 921 not reaching 15PSI [Re: Buttsack]
    #10569070 - 06/25/09 03:46 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Try turning the heat up. 13 PSI should work just put it in for a bit longer.
If the heating up doesn't work and you need it to be 15 PSI then call All American and let them know that they messed up when they machined your weight gauge.


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Re: All American 921 not reaching 15PSI [Re: Knifeplay]
    #10569084 - 06/25/09 03:51 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

The element is red and as I said it reaches 15psi fine when I hold the weight down. The problem is with the weight gauge since it gets to 13psi then lets steam out. How long should I PC rye grain at 12-13psi?

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Re: All American 921 not reaching 15PSI [Re: Buttsack]
    #10569126 - 06/25/09 04:15 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I'd add an extra 20 to 30 minutes. You should have them mail you a new weight. The nice thing about buying All American is the warranty.


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Re: All American 921 not reaching 15PSI [Re: Buttsack]
    #10569378 - 06/25/09 06:28 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

do you know the gage is accurate?


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Re: All American 921 not reaching 15PSI [Re: fungusfeller]
    #10569403 - 06/25/09 06:42 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

turn the heat down so the weight jiggles and see if the psi gets to about 15, your not supposed to just let it vent steam. Also make sure you vent the air inside the pressure cooker before of air before putting the weight on, not sure if that will effect the presure though.


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Re: All American 921 not reaching 15PSI [Re: Buttsack]
    #10569475 - 06/25/09 07:22 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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it doesn't reach 15psi because of the weight.




Because it's crap. CRAP!!!111!! :lol:

j/k

I'm with the group that thinks the gauge may need calibration.


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Re: All American 921 not reaching 15PSI [Re: veda_sticks]
    #10572801 - 06/25/09 06:43 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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turn the heat down so the weight jiggles and see if the psi gets to about 15, your not supposed to just let it vent steam. Also make sure you vent the air inside the pressure cooker before of air before putting the weight on, not sure if that will effect the presure though.



Exactly!!!  It will not build up pressure if it keeps venting! Have you read the instructions? I find personally it should only jiggle 3-4 times a minute maybe a bit less (3). GL buttsack

BTW two inches of water is an inch and a quarter too much! The only time I've ever used an inch was doing half gallon spawn jars. Word you will go through all your water if you let the weight jiggle needlessly! :wink: LOL


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Re: All American 921 not reaching 15PSI [Re: Doc_T]
    #10572812 - 06/25/09 06:45 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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Buttsack said:
it doesn't reach 15psi because of the weight.




Because it's crap. CRAP!!!111!! :lol:

j/k

I'm with the group that thinks the gauge may need calibration.



AA's are calibrated at the factory they never need calibration they take great pride in this! I'm sure glad you were joking ya had me going for a second! OK maybe two!!


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Re: All American 921 not reaching 15PSI [Re: hyphae]
    #10572829 - 06/25/09 06:49 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Permanent calibration? No foolin'? :cool:


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Re: All American 921 not reaching 15PSI [Re: Doc_T]
    #10572835 - 06/25/09 06:51 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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Permanent calibration? No foolin'? :cool:



Your quick on the edit all right! :wink:


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Re: All American 921 not reaching 15PSI [Re: hyphae]
    #10591009 - 06/29/09 06:17 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Okay so when I contacted the place I bought it from they gave me the same response and said to turn the heat down or that the gauge is suppose to be a little bit off.

I've set it so that it jiggles 1-4 times per minute and it reaches 12.5psi exactly then starts venting. They also said that as long as the weight is set to 15 it will be 15psi regardless of what the gauge says.

Does anyone elses gauge not get to 15psi?

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Re: All American 921 not reaching 15PSI [Re: Buttsack]
    #10591022 - 06/29/09 06:29 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Once isn't enough 3-4 that's all that matters. 1-4 it isn't going to reach 15psi either that's why I said 3-4. After that it doesn't matter what your gauge reads. I've never heard if a gauge that was off coming from the factory(AA). GL and remember 3-4!
BTW note the setting on the stove when you reach 3-4 this will be invaluable in the future.


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Re: All American 921 not reaching 15PSI [Re: Buttsack]
    #10591068 - 06/29/09 06:44 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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Does anyone elses gauge not get to 15psi?




My Presto doesn't. I figured that's because it's crap.
I taped a quarter on top of the jiggler weight, now it hits 15 exactly.


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Re: All American 921 not reaching 15PSI [Re: Doc_T]
    #10595695 - 06/30/09 12:57 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

I had it set that it was 3-4 every minute but I let it a bit slower to test and see if it climbed by itself. This is the response I got from where I bought it.

"I called the manufacture and they said you might have your heat set too high. Lower the heat so that it releases steam once every 15 seconds. Don't go by your gauge, it can vary by 2 to 3 psi. The gauge is really only used for a reference.
Hardware Supply Company"

I would really want it to be exactly right since I am in Aus and ordered it all the way from the US. Is there much I can do? Or should I just take their word for it and assume it is the right pressure?

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Re: All American 921 not reaching 15PSI [Re: Buttsack]
    #10596335 - 06/30/09 05:56 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

The weight is more likely to be right these are all machined the same with less moving parts compared to a gauge. AA test all there gauges at the factory they should read spot on when new but after that? I also have a lab sterilizer and the gauge on that had better be spot on!


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Re: All American 921 not reaching 15PSI [Re: hyphae]
    #10596398 - 06/30/09 06:38 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

How possible is it to get the wrong weight?
Does AA use the same weight for all their big cookers? Or  is each a slightly different model?


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Re: All American 921 not reaching 15PSI [Re: Doc_T]
    #10596404 - 06/30/09 06:43 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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How possible is it to get the wrong weight?
Does AA use the same weight for all their big cookers? Or  is each a slightly different model?



They should all be exactly the same they're computer made zero tolerance. This way they can ensure replacement weights will work and no law suits will follow.


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Re: All American 921 not reaching 15PSI [Re: hyphae]
    #10596439 - 06/30/09 07:00 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

:yesnod: So we're back to calibration of the gauge.
Or just accepting the glitch and moving on. :shrug:

First time I've seen anybody say anything about an AA that isn't intense glowing praise. Interesting. I'd still buy one, though, if I could. Presto is nice, but it's not 'the best".


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Re: All American 921 not reaching 15PSI [Re: hyphae]
    #10596545 - 06/30/09 07:45 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

gauges do need to be calibrated or replaced from time to time.


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