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Invisiblemattianyb
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some kind of gyms?
    #10560709 - 06/23/09 06:09 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Habitat:
on old wood right next to  a river

Gills:
gills are attached, yellow with a strange green tint

Stem:
thick, with a viel and bruising brownish purple, before it wasnt stained

Cap:
most were pins, i left them to grow in case they are what i am looking for, but they were rather small

Spore print color:
pending, it will be up- i promise

Bruising:
strangly purple brown

Other information:
Scent of the mushroom is mushroomy, oh and it is bitterly sweet. oh and the one all the way to the right is slightly dried out.



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[quote]Bretdaniel said:
Any idea's what they might be? Think any are eatable?[/quote]
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Re: some kind of gyms? [Re: mattianyb]
    #10560729 - 06/23/09 06:13 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Hmm.... The fresh ones look a bit like Pholiota.  Was the dried up one with the orange gills found in the same place?

Let us know what is up with that spore print.


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Re: some kind of gyms? [Re: CureCat]
    #10560737 - 06/23/09 06:16 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

they were on the same log, maybe a few feet down it, log had no bark. ill be getting the print up soon, is there any possibility of a gym? or is that out of the question?


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[quote]Bretdaniel said:
Any idea's what they might be? Think any are eatable?[/quote]
:rofl2:



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Re: some kind of gyms? [Re: mattianyb]
    #10560752 - 06/23/09 06:20 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

oh and cure cat, i believe the fresh and the dried are the same, the only difference is the gills, but this could have been altered from drying out and the color could possibly be the spore deposit. but then again im no expert like you my friend.


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[quote]Bretdaniel said:
Any idea's what they might be? Think any are eatable?[/quote]
:rofl2:



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Re: some kind of gyms? [Re: CureCat]
    #10560768 - 06/23/09 06:24 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

They look exactly like suspected pholiota that ravage the top of my northern fav gym log!!( those Fuckers:evil:) - ive also found pluteus cervs on the same log aswell!! - It must be nice to make a mushroom Condo!?!?!:grin:   

- ps - gyms may have some purple or magenta like bruising ( most often green )
-and look for it on lil penis shaped pinners!!! Thats ur best bet to confirm  active gyms............

- the gills -no nice white gill edges- and scaly cap of your above finds are off - and also its just the size and total shape of the ones u found are off from gyms typical features - Just keep looking - they will be larger than what u've found there- Fall is the best time to find fruits!! - My logs up here in mid-north wi dried up!! September it is!!!

check out my pics for more visual info - PEACE!!


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Re: some kind of gyms? [Re: sporeRider]
    #10560799 - 06/23/09 06:32 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)


HERE'S SOME CLOSE UP SHOTS of my southeast wi spot!!!!!!:super:


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Re: some kind of gyms? [Re: sporeRider]
    #10560844 - 06/23/09 06:43 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

thanks wisco, i was looking at your post before, actually that's honestly what inspired me today to go looking, unfortunately the family i had that lived in Wisconsin moved to Missouri :? we could of went hunting together at some point. but thanks so much for your input, oh but the pins were really penis looking lol. luckily my cambo's just started to pin, so im not sad at all!


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[quote]Bretdaniel said:
Any idea's what they might be? Think any are eatable?[/quote]
:rofl2:



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Re: some kind of gyms? [Re: mattianyb]
    #10560877 - 06/23/09 06:51 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Guess what Matti? Eatable :P

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Re: some kind of gyms? [Re: mattianyb]
    #10560880 - 06/23/09 06:51 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Nice bro!!!! Super glad i inspired you to go hunting!!!:super:( Now is the time to find early spring flushes!!) Glad u took my advice!! Good luck in the future!! Don't give up just keep looking:smile: Patients pays off-- im sure u know with your indoor ops!!:wink: Im Glad u got something a bit more potent to keep ya happy:mushroom2:

I'd love to see more people in wi find something really cool:thumbup:

please don't give up here or in missouri


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Re: some kind of gyms? [Re: mattianyb]
    #10560964 - 06/23/09 07:12 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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mattianyb said:
is there any possibility of a gym?



Yes, there is a good possibility.


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mattianyb said:
i believe the fresh and the dried are the same, the only difference is the gills, but this could have been altered from drying out and the color could possibly be the spore deposit.



I was thinking the same thing.  The spores of some mushrooms only really start to develop fully when the mushrooms begin to desiccate- which would explain the lack of orange pigment on the gills of the fresh mushrooms.

On the other hand, as wiscokid points out, there may be two mushroom species (Gymnopilus and Pholiota perhaps) or more co-inhabiting the log.

So yes, spore prints.  Keep 'em coming.


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Re: some kind of gyms? [Re: CureCat]
    #10561013 - 06/23/09 07:23 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

awesome, wisco, cure cat, and bret(my fellow blurry eyes) really thanks so much for all your help, also i have to give glick a shout out for sending me in the direction of near water sources, everyone on this  site is really helpful, cure ill let you know when i get those print, but i don't let them premature, i leave for a few hours so its thick. but when i get it what is the print for gyms/pholiota?


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[quote]Bretdaniel said:
Any idea's what they might be? Think any are eatable?[/quote]
:rofl2:



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Re: some kind of gyms? [Re: CureCat]
    #10561036 - 06/23/09 07:28 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

sporeprints are very important when encountering a unknown find!! - I Seriously doubt those are gyms!! - they might look close ( or like a sub species) - but for sure they don't resemble any of my active gyms from my locations! - check out my pic of dried gyms - the gill color is sooo close to cap color AND stem colors!! - and how my finds all have a persistant, thick annulus ring close to the cap!!


your finds above most closely resemble suspected Pholiota like i have found on my gym log - Do not eat!!

Look at your 2nd photo - the specimen on the right top - it has a frilled toothlike edge around the cap - Just like the pholiota i find on top my log!! - Don't eat em!! - if u get a good sporeprint - a positive id may be possible - but id say u gotta keep looking for some active gyms bro! They are large too - Hence the title "big laughing gym" - Good luck


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Re: some kind of gyms? [Re: mattianyb]
    #10561041 - 06/23/09 07:29 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

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cure ill let you know when i get those print, but i don't let them premature, i leave for a few hours so its thick.



I would not have it any other way!


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mattianyb said:
but when i get it what is the print for gyms/pholiota?



Pholiota - brown, light brown

Gymnopilus - Rusty brown, orange/brown


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Re: some kind of gyms? [Re: sporeRider]
    #10561050 - 06/23/09 07:31 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

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They are large too - Hence the title "big laughing gym"



They can be quite small as well, though that is not the norm.

Also, I may have been unclear on one issue-  Even if these turn out to have rusty spores, that doesn't necessarily mean that they are an active species, though I would not rule it out quite yet. 

Danny is good at these.  I'll go get him.


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Re: some kind of gyms? [Re: CureCat]
    #10561102 - 06/23/09 07:39 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

that toothlike veil remenant says pholiota to me!!- can anyone else see it - did u see it on em fresh matti?? -

both will show very similar spore coloration - its the size and stem shape that says it all

i do find some tiny gyms
- but none the size of Mattis pics above would have broken their veil
if they were gyms the veil would still be quite thick and membrane/cobwebby!!


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Re: some kind of gyms? [Re: sporeRider]
    #10561112 - 06/23/09 07:40 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Most small ones i accidentally pull out - will blue/green the most too - just some more of my gym info!


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Re: some kind of gyms? [Re: mattianyb]
    #10561210 - 06/23/09 08:00 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

mattianyb, yours are probably Pholiota, something close to Pholiota granulosa would be my first guess, though they could also be some small inactive Gymnopilus. Spore print would be cool here.:shrug:

wiscokid, yours are Gymnopilus luteus. One of the most potent gyms.

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Re: some kind of gyms? [Re: DannyGlick]
    #10561282 - 06/23/09 08:13 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

yes the veil was quite strange because it split in many of the small specimens that i thought were just pins, but upon later inspection ended up having they're gills showing, also yes the fresh picking had a "tooth" looking veil too them, man I'm stumped on what this is. i can't wait till will figure it out. thanks guys a lot for staying strong on this thread. you will all be getting plus 5's after we figure this out.


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[quote]Bretdaniel said:
Any idea's what they might be? Think any are eatable?[/quote]
:rofl2:



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Re: some kind of gyms? [Re: DannyGlick]
    #10561292 - 06/23/09 08:14 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

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mattianyb, yours are probably Pholiota, something close to Pholiota granulosa would be my first guess, though they could also be some small inactive Gymnopilus. Spore print would be cool here.:shrug:

wiscokid, yours are Gymnopilus luteus. One of the most potent gyms.




glicky! - thanks man, yeah ill let u know on the print, when i get it, is there any way we can figure out the species?


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[quote]Bretdaniel said:
Any idea's what they might be? Think any are eatable?[/quote]
:rofl2:



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Re: some kind of gyms? [Re: mattianyb]
    #10561317 - 06/23/09 08:18 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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glicky! - thanks man, yeah ill let u know on the print, when i get it, is there any way we can figure out the species?




If they're Pholiota there are quite a few of that stature and appearance. You'd probably have to send it to one of these geeks with their microscopes and stuff.:smirk:

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