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First bulk hpoo attempt contaminated!
    #10505631 - 06/14/09 04:58 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Just did my first bulk spawn of ecuadors from rye to hpoo.  24 hours later it smelled sour and the mycellium never spread at all.  I pasteurized for an hour at 160 in a pillow case in a metal wash tub on my stove. The only thing i can think of that i did wrong was I forgot to sterilize the tub.  the tub was brand new from the store.  Would it cause contams that quick? should i pasteurize for longer? did i just get unlucky?  any ideas would be greatly appreciated as i've got some more jars that will be ready in a week and i don't want to waste them too.

thanks in advance

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Re: First bulk hpoo attempt contaminated! [Re: jstsm]
    #10505653 - 06/14/09 05:04 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I would bet it was your spawn that was the problem.

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Re: First bulk hpoo attempt contaminated! [Re: jstsm]
    #10505662 - 06/14/09 05:05 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I don't think it was a contam, I think it's fermentation. That happens when either the hpoo was to wet or undercooked. It's almost impossible to have hpoo contam in 24hours. Make sure when your cooking you stir the poo up in the bag, and that it's cooked all the way around. You should then have a way to fully strain as much water as you can.


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Re: First bulk hpoo attempt contaminated! [Re: twboss]
    #10505688 - 06/14/09 05:09 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

When I pasteurize my shit I like to take it to the extreme, 170F for 6-8 hours always worked well for me.  Sure, some folk will tell you of there success at 140F for an hour or two, but why take the chance.  Better to kill a little too much of the beneficial bacteria than not enough of the other stuff.


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Re: First bulk hpoo attempt contaminated! [Re: george castanza]
    #10505883 - 06/14/09 05:38 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

where were were you measuing temp. The water or the middle of your substrate?


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Re: First bulk hpoo attempt contaminated! [Re: veda_sticks]
    #10506149 - 06/14/09 06:33 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I was taking the temp of the water.  I started the time when the water temp stabilized.  But it was pretty packed...should I do smaller batches or could i just pasteurize for like 2-3 hours?

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Re: First bulk hpoo attempt contaminated! [Re: veda_sticks]
    #10506162 - 06/14/09 06:35 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I measured the temp by what the oven was set at(lowest setting was 170F, used thermometer to confirm).  Took big turkey roaster pans and packed them with shit, covered with heavy duty foil(could only fit 4 at a time in the oven), baked, let cool, inoculated with colonized millet/wbs, worked like a charm every time.


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