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 MisfiringSynapse
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 Stupid simple extraction technique 
#10496222 - 06/12/09 08:54 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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This will extract 2-3 times as much product as alcohol, is MUCH cheaper, and stupid simple.
- Grind up the mushrooms into a powder in a coffee grinder.
- Boil in 50/50 water/white vinegar for 30 minutes. Use enough water/vinegar to keep the poweder fully submerged.
- Filter the liquid with a gravity filter (detailed below)
- Pour the liquid into a glass baking dish and wait for it to evaporate. Use a fan to blow over the liquid if you're really impatient.
- What remains should be brown and semi-crystalline, and stuck to the baking dish. It'll behave a lot like sugar. Scrape off the dish with a razor (a window scraper can be really handy here).
- Work the pile of dust into a taffy-like consistency. The warmer it is the easier it'll be to work, so just keep folding and working it.
- Roll this taffy into a rod, about half the thickness of a pencil.
- Cut off 1/8th inch sections and test them
 to measure potency.
- Cut to desired length.
Gravity filter
Go to the auto supply store and get a tall funnel, the kind you use for changing your oil. Cut the tip off so that there's a 1.5-2" opening. Discard the tip. Cut off another inch, you should now have a 1" ring with a 1.5-2" opening. Wrap a coffee filter (or two, for strength) around the ring and drop the ring into the top of the funnel. Push it down into place so it won't move.
Put the funnel into the mouth of a wide-mouth canning jar, pour liquid to be filtered into the funnel and wait until no more liquid drips out.
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 drSE
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can't see i have ever seen this.
none the less, i don't see people taking this much time.
on the other hand, i hate the taste of mushrooms and might look this way. is the taste still really horrid?
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hedgehog
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 Re: Stupid simple extraction technique [Re: drSE]
#10496491 - 06/12/09 09:53 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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I was under the impression that heat destroys the psyliocybin molecule... If it's working more power to you but just wanted to through that out there.
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MisfiringSynapse
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Re: Stupid simple extraction technique [Re: drSE]
#10496566 - 06/12/09 10:07 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
drSE said:
can't see i have ever seen this.
none the less, i don't see people taking this much time.
on the other hand, i hate the taste of mushrooms and might look this way. is the taste still really horrid?
Yep, it is that horrid, but the nausea and generally upset stomach bugs me much more. This is really more for if you have a larger quantity (say 30g+) and don't mind a little prep work. You can save the cut-up taffy 'pills' and have a relatively metered dose.
The same basic process can be used to make tea, just don't evaporate the liquid. The main point of the tek, is that vinegar is far superior to alcohol for extraction.
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hedgehog said:
I was under the impression that heat destroys the psyliocybin molecule... If it's working more power to you but just wanted to through that out there.
Which is why you see teks which require double boilers and the like. If the temperature at which it decomposes is below the boiling point of water, perhaps the acetic acid prevents it's decomposition, but I doubt it. I think the decomposition temperature is simply above the boiling point of water.
Edited by MisfiringSynapse (06/12/09 10:08 PM)
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drSE
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wow, 30g +.... i don't think i want to venture that far down the rabbit hole. thats seems really extreme. have you done this?
plus, the nausea and stomach upset is wicked with me, that is why i mix herbs with my mushroom tea, to coat my stomach. plus i eat before hand good food. now i know, this makes you trip weaker but you can always eat more, and i would rather take the price over the discomfort.
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MisfiringSynapse
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Re: Stupid simple extraction technique [Re: drSE]
#10496656 - 06/12/09 10:18 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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drSE said:
wow, 30g +.... i don't think i want to venture that far down the rabbit hole. thats seems really extreme. have you done this?
LMAO, 30g is not for eating in one sitting. Dice up the resulting taffy rope into 10 pieces, and end up with roughly 3g worth of product in each taffy pill.
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plus, the nausea and stomach upset is wicked with me, that is why i mix herbs with my mushroom tea, to coat my stomach. plus i eat before hand good food. now i know, this makes you trip weaker but you can always eat more, and i would rather take the price over the discomfort.
You still get an upset stomach with tea? You're straining out the fruits, right? Try running it through the gravity filter. Ginger helps immensely.
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PsychoReactive
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Just grind them and mix with juice. The best!
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nicechrisman
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Re: Stupid simple extraction technique [Re: PsychoReactive]
#10497598 - 06/13/09 01:00 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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psycho4ctive said:
Just grind them and mix with juice. The best!
That's always worked great for me!
I'm intrigued by extractions though, as I've never tried them. Sounds like a fun concept.
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RedBeerd
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Re: Stupid simple extraction technique [Re: nicechrisman]
#10513977 - 06/15/09 10:20 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Can we get a confirmation on this one from someone? Anyone tried this? It just seems too easy to work right...
I've never seen Mushroom taffy, and I imagine it'd been brought up before...
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RedBeerd
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Re: Stupid simple extraction technique [Re: RedBeerd]
#10514537 - 06/15/09 11:57 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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okay.. So I'm doing this right now... as we speak...
And let me tell you, with 15 minutes left on the clock, I'm almost calling BS on this.
So far I've encountered a couple problems which I would think anyone who's tried this would surely not fail to mention...
I'll post a full report when I'm finished...
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Re: Stupid simple extraction technique [Re: RedBeerd]
#10571135 - 06/25/09 01:59 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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First, I wouldn't boil to extract. A 12-24 hour room temp extraction will probably do better. Next I wouldn't evap to dryness. That is where you'll loose the majority of your product. Just evap it down to a shotglass full or so. A lot of people actually drink a shot of vinegar here and there for their health.
I also don't see why you wouldn't use straight vinegar. That's usually what's reported in the literature. 5% acetic acid = distilled white vinegar.
Also remember that heating an acetic acid solution full of psilocybin will completely dephosphorylate it to psilocin in less than 45 min at 70C.
So don't expect the product to be stable or keep very long. Everything else sounds like it will work out fine. Psilocin and psilocybin are pretty soluble in acetic acid and it makes a good extraction solvent for both compounds.
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