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 The Obama Deception. 
#10482390 - 06/10/09 12:39 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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I am posting this again because the first time it was locked because I did not add my own thoughts, my own thought have always been that obama is a crook, that there no lines separating the political parties, but I think this is important enough to post again, so if a mod could please remove the first thread I made about this that would be great.
My thoughts on this matter are the same as the videos, I think obama is just a puppet and was thinking that long before this video ever came out, as did many of my friends and family.
So it was kinda creepy to see a vid about him being a puppet, what do you think?
We are heading towards a false America, I always thought the power was with the people.
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i think this country has been going down hill for a while now but Obama is fucking it up faster than anyone before him....
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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"
We have "reckless fiscal policies"
America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.
Americans deserve better
Barack Obama
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i was hoping this documentary had more to say about Obama. i was expecting a little more on his history. it's over all decent. they make a few good points. i especially like how he is delaying and sending more troops into the iraq war. i think one big reason for liberal voters to chose him was to end the war like he had promised and now he is continuing the efforts. both parties suck and are going to continue sucking, thats what i say.
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both parties suck and are going to continue sucking, thats what i say.
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i was expecting a little more on his history.
it's simple, Obama doesnt want his history known, what was his
ranking in his harvard graduating class, no one knows other than
he graduated Magna Cum Laude along with 50% of the other
seniors, he got in as both a legacy and under the pressure of
his 'mentor', his Occidental grades also not released, he wrote
one review in his time as the President of the Harvard Law Review
his grades from Occidental, also not released and blocked,
Records from his work with Acorn, The Woods Fund and The Chicago
Annenberg Challenge, also sealed/blocked the CAC pissed away
$1.6 million and had nothing to show, wonder why he wanted all
that sealed
Barack Obama has no history
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 Re: The Obama Deception. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#10483077 - 06/10/09 03:12 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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I wonder why his Kenyan grandmother wasn't present at his inaugeration?
maybe it'd have been embarrassing
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Did you listen to his speech in Cairo? Have some faith!
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Re: The Obama Deception. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#10483123 - 06/10/09 03:21 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said:
it's simple, Obama doesnt want his history known, what was his
ranking in his harvard graduating class, no one knows other than
he graduated Magna Cum Laude along with 50% of the other
seniors, he got in as both a legacy and under the pressure of
his 'mentor', his Occidental grades also not released, he wrote
one review in his time as the President of the Harvard Law Review
his grades from Occidental, also not released and blocked,
Records from his work with Acorn, The Woods Fund and The Chicago
Annenberg Challenge, also sealed/blocked the CAC pissed away
$1.6 million and had nothing to show, wonder why he wanted all
that sealed
Barack Obama has no history
Your paranoia is hilarious. Just so we're clear:
Obama - J.D., Harvard Law School, magna cum laude and president of one of the most prestigious law review journals in the country. Also could be considered the most honorable student position at the school.
McCain - almost flunked out, graduated 894th/899 from the Naval Academy
Palin - journalism degree from some university in Idaho, no honors
I don't know why you're obsessed with knowing his exact rank when it's pretty clear that he is academically brilliant, especially compared with the people he ran against in the election.
Additionally, I've never been to Harvard Law but I assume even the bottom of the graduating class had to be somewhat intelligent to even be admitted in the first place. Since you brought it up, I'd be interested to see where you read that 50% of the class graduated magna cum laude.
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Re: The Obama Deception. [Re: THC Titan]
#10483296 - 06/10/09 03:48 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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I live in cambridge and I've met plenty of stupid harvard kids. Book smarts only go so far.
Obama IS smart. He is good at getting people to blindly follow him. Of course it was easily set in motion with Bush before him, but that is besides the point. America has been fucked up for a long time.
"Give him a chance","lesser than two evils","we must move on, can't look at the past"... are tired excuses.
Obama has done the opposite of everything he said he would do pre-election. You just need to listen to him, you don't need anyone's opinion but your own.
America is instilled in fear.
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Quote:
Visionary Tools said:
I wonder why his Kenyan grandmother wasn't present at his inaugeration?
maybe it'd have been embarrassing
omg are you a birther?
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lonestar2004
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Re: The Obama Deception. [Re: Taco Chef]
#10483380 - 06/10/09 04:11 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
novumorganum said:
Quote:
Visionary Tools said:
I wonder why his Kenyan grandmother wasn't present at his inaugeration?
maybe it'd have been embarrassing
omg are you a birther?
whats a birther?
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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"
We have "reckless fiscal policies"
America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.
Americans deserve better
Barack Obama
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THC Titan
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suns_for_shadows said:
Obama has done the opposite of everything he said he would do pre-election. You just need to listen to him, you don't need anyone's opinion but your own.
"Everything" is an absolutist term.
Even when I campaigned for Obama, I was under no illusion that he would gain office and proceed not to break any of his campaign promises. As many platitudes as I could give him, he's still a politician and deserves healthy skepticism.
Complaining about his graduating rank and his birth certificate is baseless, dull, and embarrassing for his critics. Seriously.
RE: dumb Ivy League students, yeah, they exist. Harvard Law, however, is another huge step up, and according to his old professors and present colleagues, his mind is up for the task of running the United States.
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Re: The Obama Deception. [Re: THC Titan]
#10483540 - 06/10/09 04:54 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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ok everything was a bad word to use... MOST everything.
He and many others have spit on our constitution.
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THC Titan said:
Harvard Law, however, is another huge step up, and according to his old professors and present colleagues, his mind is up for the task of running the United States.
That is absolutist as well sir. That is like saying my friends, professors, and grades say I'm Smart, therefore I am.
Do you believe in obama's "change" THC Titan? What has obama done to help anything?
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lonestar2004 said:
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novumorganum said:
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Visionary Tools said:
I wonder why his Kenyan grandmother wasn't present at his inaugeration?
maybe it'd have been embarrassing
omg are you a birther?
whats a birther?
oh, the obama is not an american citizen people.
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suns_for_shadows said:
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THC Titan said:
Harvard Law, however, is another huge step up, and according to his old professors and present colleagues, his mind is up for the task of running the United States.
That is absolutist as well sir. That is like saying my friends, professors, and grades say I'm Smart, therefore I am.
No it isn't absolutist, its an inference. Five sitting Supreme Court justices came from Harvard Law, so when multiple professors say a particular student is outstanding, that has some relative merit.
Besides, I didn't say each and every single one of his old professors were ga-ga over him. I just haven't seen any detractors make themselves known to the press.
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Re: The Obama Deception. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#10484194 - 06/10/09 06:46 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yes, barring a handful of wedge issues the two parties are identical. But politicans get elected by winning over as many people as possible. That can only be done if you stay near the center and try to please everyone. It's why radical politicans rarely get elected, especially not in the Senate. The more people you have to please, the more centrist you have to be.
That said, i'm giving Obama until the end of July. If the economy shows no signs of recovery, (disregarding unemployment, since that usually lags a bit) he can go screw himself.
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leftysurprise said:
he has broken several campaign promises.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/rulings/promise-broken/
And kept several others.
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lonestar2004 said:
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novumorganum said:
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Visionary Tools said:
I wonder why his Kenyan grandmother wasn't present at his inaugeration?
maybe it'd have been embarrassing
omg are you a birther?
whats a birther?
Someone who believes that President Obama is not a United States citizen.
Edited by inkblot (06/10/09 06:53 PM)
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Re: The Obama Deception. [Re: THC Titan]
#10485891 - 06/11/09 12:10 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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THC Titan said:
Your paranoia is hilarious. Just so we're clear:
Obama - J.D., Harvard Law School, magna cum laude and president of one of the most prestigious law review journals in the country. Also could be considered the most honorable student position at the school.
as did half the graduating class, what was obamas ranking, we
have McCains, what were obamas grades, we have McCains, the
position of president of the law review became a popularity
contest int he 60s, obama had a lot of friends on the school paper
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I don't know why you're obsessed with knowing his exact rank when it's pretty clear that he is academically brilliant, especially compared with the people he ran against in the election.
academically brilliant, considering he added 10 extra states while campaigning, I wouldnt call that brilliant
I learned about 50 in elementary school
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Additionally, I've never been to Harvard Law but I assume even the bottom of the graduating class had to be somewhat intelligent to even be admitted in the first place. Since you brought it up, I'd be interested to see where you read that 50% of the class graduated magna cum laude.
doesnt matter, you dont need links all you need to know is he
was chief editor in the school news paper that got in through
the pressures from his 'mentor' and as a legacy because his
father attended harvard, a magna cum laude isnt as great as
you'd like to believe
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* cum laude, "with honor" (direct translation: "with praise")
* magna cum laude, "with great honor" (direct translation: "with great praise")
* summa cum laude, "with highest honor" (direct translation: "with highest praise")
what were his grades again?
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Re: The Obama Deception. [Re: inkblot]
#10485914 - 06/11/09 12:14 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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inkblot said:
Someone who believes that President Obama is not a United States citizen.
he's not proven he is a citizen
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Re: The Obama Deception. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#10486244 - 06/11/09 02:01 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said:
as did half the graduating class, what was obamas ranking, we
have McCains, what were obamas grades, we have McCains, the
position of president of the law review became a popularity contest int he 60s, obama had a lot of friends on the school paper
Where did you get the information that 50% of Harvard Law's graduating class is awarded magna cum laude? Harvard Law's Academic Handbook seems to suggest you pulled that statistic out of thin air:
http://www.law.harvard.edu/academics/handbook/rules-relating-to-law-school-studies/requirements-for-the-j.d.-degree.html
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Graduation with Honors
If a student completes the requirements for the J.D. degree with distinction, the student will receive the degree cum laude, magna cum laude, or summa cum laude. The summa cum laude is determined by the requirement of a 7.20 GPA. The honor is exact, and does not involve “rounding off”; i.e., a general average of 7.199 does not result in a degree summa cum laude. The magna cum laude will be awarded to the top 10 percent of the class, excluding the summa. The cum laude will be awarded to the students in the next 30 percent of the class.
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academically brilliant, considering he added 10 extra states while campaigning, I wouldnt call that brilliant
Lame. You get any person doing public speeches everyday for a year, they will make some casual blunders. It's not like he was trying to dodge a question or calculate a political move. Or dumb as a third grader as you seem to suggest.
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doesnt matter, you dont need links all you need to know is he
was chief editor in the school news paper that got in through
the pressures from his 'mentor' and as a legacy because his
father attended harvard, a magna cum laude isnt as great as
you'd like to believe
Okay, let's break this package down.
First, he was not only the editor but the president of the Harvard Law Review, which is not a school newspaper but a journal.
Next, his father attended Harvard, not Harvard Law School, and that was almost 25 years before Obama got into the school. Not only that, Obama Sr. was dead for about 9 years before Obama became president of the Law Review. You're suggesting Obama Sr. had serious influence over Harvard's faculty and staff from beyond the grave...
But not quite. The Harvard Law Review is not formally associated with the university and is student-run. The president is elected by the vote of eighty student editors. How would Obama Sr. be associated with people ~30 years old when he attended Harvard when they were just five years old? And then, be able to outcompete 18 other extremely competitive candidates?
Sorry dude, that shit does not add up and is quite a paranoid theory.
Also, if legacy status instantly guaranteed high grades, John McCain wouldn't have been fifth-from-bottom in his class. His father was an admiral in the Navy, too.
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