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Noobey
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I know PF Pint Jars dont work well but.....
#10472455 - 06/08/09 05:52 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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I know PF Pint Jars dont work well but, instead of using MS injection use LC. Then would they work? Thanks Guys!
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Mushouse
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Re: I know PF Pint Jars dont work well but..... [Re: Noobey]
#10472478 - 06/08/09 05:55 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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You would still get better results with 2 half-pints. It's easier for the mycelium to colonize the smaller jars.
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Noobey
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Re: I know PF Pint Jars dont work well but..... [Re: Mushouse]
#10472549 - 06/08/09 06:11 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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I know but would they fully colonize the pint jars. I did 10 pints with MS and only a few colonize. I figued LC clonizes faster so they woud work? I have so many pint jars. Any other thoughts?
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CH HELL
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Re: I know PF Pint Jars dont work well but..... [Re: Noobey]
#10472584 - 06/08/09 06:17 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Pf jars even with MS should colinize fine. Try making your jars dryer, it will help with colinization and you are going to dunk them after birthing anyway. If you want to use LC then make them very dry and inject 2cc's instead of one. GL, CH
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Spongiform
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Re: I know PF Pint Jars dont work well but..... [Re: CH HELL]
#10472625 - 06/08/09 06:24 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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You can do up to quart sized pf cakes if you use plastic containers.
However in glass, pf pints tend to take forever to colonize.
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Noobey
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Re: I know PF Pint Jars dont work well but..... [Re: Spongiform]
#10472666 - 06/08/09 06:28 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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hey spongi can u reccomend some plastic quarts i could use im about to go to the grocery store. Also or quart how many cups of verm BRF and flour do i use?
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Spongiform
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Re: I know PF Pint Jars dont work well but..... [Re: Noobey]
#10472688 - 06/08/09 06:31 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Just use the same basic PF recipe, or my slightly modified version (see my tek for details).
I like the ziploc twist n locs, just be super careful if you drill the lids they crack easy. Better to melt holes with a hot nail or screw driver.
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Noobey
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Re: I know PF Pint Jars dont work well but..... [Re: Noobey]
#10472699 - 06/08/09 06:33 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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hey spongi can u reccomend some plastic quarts i could use im about to go to the grocery store. Also or quart how many cups of verm BRF and flour do i use?
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Noobey
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Re: I know PF Pint Jars dont work well but..... [Re: Noobey]
#10472708 - 06/08/09 06:35 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Those come in quart?
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Spongiform
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Re: I know PF Pint Jars dont work well but..... [Re: Noobey]
#10472735 - 06/08/09 06:39 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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They come in a couple sizes, but usually I find pints and quart sizes.
http://www.drugstore.com/qxp140433_333181_sespider/ziploc_twist_n_loc/containers_and_lids_small.htm
Kind hard to see, but on the far left, top shelf, second jar from the left, there's a quart sized ziploc /w wbs colonizing in it.
There's a quart, probably same one on the far right here, and on top of it is a pint.
Cake on the top left is what came out of it.
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curbstop
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Re: I know PF Pint Jars dont work well but..... [Re: Spongiform]
#10472863 - 06/08/09 07:03 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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I know but would they fully colonize the pint jars. I did 10 pints with MS and only a few colonize. I figued LC clonizes faster so they woud work?
Yes they will all fully colonize no matter what you choose to hit them up with. Be it MS or LC nor the material that makes the containers up.
As for LC colonizing faster thats true to a point but a very small point your only going to cut 2 to 4 days off your total. The only reason that is true is for the fact that you are putting already formed mycelium in the jar which with MS you would have to wait on average 3 days to get.
PR 2.5 weeks with LC (Pint jars)
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Noobey
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Re: I know PF Pint Jars dont work well but..... [Re: curbstop]
#10473875 - 06/08/09 09:07 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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How long should you PC Quart PF jars?
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Spongiform
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Re: I know PF Pint Jars dont work well but..... [Re: Noobey]
#10473915 - 06/08/09 09:14 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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90-120 mins @ 15 psi.
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Noobey
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Re: I know PF Pint Jars dont work well but..... [Re: Spongiform]
#10474175 - 06/08/09 10:05 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Right on found some 1 quart twist and locks PCin rite now thanks Spongi!
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Noobey
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Re: I know PF Pint Jars dont work well but..... [Re: Noobey]
#10474522 - 06/08/09 10:56 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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I got the 5 PP plastic it wont melt right?
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guywiththegun
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Re: I know PF Pint Jars dont work well but..... [Re: Noobey]
#10474657 - 06/08/09 11:15 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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So why exactly all the opposition to pint jars? I've used them for a while now and I'm curious why they seem to be so hated/if I'm doing something wrong that I can do better.
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Noobey
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Re: I know PF Pint Jars dont work well but..... [Re: guywiththegun]
#10474819 - 06/08/09 11:43 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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I dk I just thought quart jars would produce more mushies for my area and then I dont have to stack 1/2 pint jars. Dont know if that is true though. So essentially more shrooms for my space is what im thinkin b/c they are 3 times taller and I got alot of room above. I still love 1/2 pint and still will make them.
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littleapplemm
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Re: I know PF Pint Jars dont work well but..... [Re: guywiththegun]
#10474889 - 06/08/09 11:56 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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guywiththegun said: So why exactly all the opposition to pint jars? I've used them for a while now and I'm curious why they seem to be so hated/if I'm doing something wrong that I can do better.
Because 1/2 pints are smaller they colonize quicker leaving contams less of a chance to take hold of the sub. Also with pints the sub tends to get compacted over time making it take even longer to colonize.
If a pint jar is properly prepared and sterile procedure is followed there is no reason it won't work, it just takes longer.
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Noobey
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Re: I know PF Pint Jars dont work well but..... [Re: littleapplemm]
#10474901 - 06/09/09 12:02 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Dude little i fucking love that avatar!
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littleapplemm
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Re: I know PF Pint Jars dont work well but..... [Re: Noobey]
#10474959 - 06/09/09 12:16 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Noobey said: Dude little i fucking love that avatar!
Thanks. I originally got that in a text message from my dad lol.
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