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BandStar
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Ending a mescaline trip (P. torch)
#10365675 - 05/19/09 06:07 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Is there a way of ending a mescaline trip? Would benzos help or no? Any other advice?
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Groomies
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Re: Ending a mescaline trip (P. torch) [Re: BandStar]
#10365697 - 05/19/09 06:13 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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i heard drinking a big cup of milk. try it and see if it works.
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Re: Ending a mescaline trip (P. torch) [Re: Groomies]
#10365705 - 05/19/09 06:14 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yes, benzos will help.
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Re: Ending a mescaline trip (P. torch) [Re: LSDreamer]
#10365712 - 05/19/09 06:16 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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LSDreamer said: Yes, benzos will help.
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BandStar
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Re: Ending a mescaline trip (P. torch) [Re: wrestler_az]
#10365719 - 05/19/09 06:18 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks. Will the benzos just make me pass out or will it actually help end it? Either way, I'm trying it, thanks for the help
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wrestler_az
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Re: Ending a mescaline trip (P. torch) [Re: BandStar]
#10365740 - 05/19/09 06:22 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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they do exactly what they are prescribed to do, and that is treat anxiety. they usually wont kill the trip completely for me, but it will dull it down a bit and allow me to get over what ever hang ups that lead me to take it in the first place. take enough of it and im sure youd eventually just pass out, i suggest not aiming for that outcome though.
i generally keep them as a last option kind of a thing. or for when im comming down to help get some sleep. sometimes a change of scenery and a breath of fresh air is all you really need.
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Re: Ending a mescaline trip (P. torch) [Re: wrestler_az]
#10365771 - 05/19/09 06:27 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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wrestler_az said: they do exactly what they are prescribed to do, and that is treat anxiety. they usually wont kill the trip completely for me, but it will dull it down a bit and allow me to get over what ever hang ups that lead me to take it in the first place. take enough of it and im sure youd eventually just pass out, i suggest not aiming for that outcome though.
i generally keep them as a last option kind of a thing. or for when im comming down to help get some sleep. sometimes a change of scenery and a breath of fresh air is all you really need.
Yeah. The smallest thing can totally derail a trip. Likewise, the smallest thing can totally salvage a trip.
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Re: Ending a mescaline trip (P. torch) [Re: BandStar]
#10365813 - 05/19/09 06:39 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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I know how to intensify into an explosion of Hi-Def, super-sensitive sensory perception of the visual and auditory field!
Here's what you do:
Step 1: Smoke some ultra-dank budz out of a bong or hi-quality vaporizer (vapo) near the peak or in the plateau of your San Pedro/ Peru Torch trip. Step 2: Brace yourself for the most amazing, hi-def "hallucinations" of your life! Step 3: Repeat when necessary. Step 4: Tell your friends!
Oh, wait, you want to "kill" a trip? Hmmmm...that's a little more complicated.
I guess take some strong anti-depressants. That's what Gregory House did it on the TV show House M.D. to end an LSD trip on the episode called "Distractions" (pretty perfect name for LSD, no?), and it worked! I mean, if it worked on a complicated, jargon-ridden trippy medical drama show, then its bound to be true.
Mescalated to the Max, ~ LogicaL Chaos ~
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wrestler_az
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Re: Ending a mescaline trip (P. torch) [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#10365862 - 05/19/09 06:51 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: I guess take some strong anti-depressants. That's what Gregory House did it on the TV show House M.D. to end an LSD trip on the episode called "Distractions" (pretty perfect name for LSD, no?), and it worked! I mean, if it worked on a complicated, jargon-ridden trippy medical drama show, then its bound to be true.
i hope you are being sarcastic.
lol
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Re: Ending a mescaline trip (P. torch) [Re: wrestler_az]
#10365895 - 05/19/09 06:57 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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wrestler_az said: i hope you are being sarcastic. lol
Actually, I'm not. If the medical show House is accurate, then it should work. He called it the "Ying" to Acid's "Yang". Do some research on it (or just do some self-research) to see if it actually works. I've never tried it, but hey, it could actually work in reality!
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Edited by LogicaL Chaos (05/19/09 07:02 PM)
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Re: Ending a mescaline trip (P. torch) [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#10365927 - 05/19/09 07:03 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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anti depressants scare me. and television shows are hardly accurate. benzos are the way to go if you desire to weaken your trip. tested and proved. ill leave the experimenting in this matter to others.
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Re: Ending a mescaline trip (P. torch) [Re: wrestler_az]
#10365997 - 05/19/09 07:19 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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anti psychotics would end it
benzos would make it calmer and help you pass out if you wanted to.
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LogicaL Chaos
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Re: Ending a mescaline trip (P. torch) [Re: wrestler_az]
#10366003 - 05/19/09 07:21 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Here, I found some anecdotal evidence (not scientifically proven or disproven) from Shroomery's bigger brother Erowid.org that discusses on this same topic, but on LSD specifically. The article is called: " LSD and Antidepressants " at Erowid.org Here's the link to the article----> http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_health3.shtml
Even though its talking about LSD specifically and not Mescaline, its important to note that ALL psychedelics, like LSD and Mescaline, have cross-tolerances with each other (which HAS been proven scientifically). This means if you took LSD today, and took mescaline the following day after you came down off the LSD, the Mescaline trip would be MUCH WEAKER. This suggests that ALL psychedelics act on SIMILAR parts of the brain, thus they react to other substances (like anti-depressants) in a similar way.
In the article, it states specifically that "SSRIs (like Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, Celexa, Desyrel) or MAOIs (like Nardil, Parnate, Marplan, Eldepryl, Aurorex, Manerix) are fairly consistently reported to noticeably reduce the effects of LSD. MAOIs seem to cause a greater reduction in the effects of LSD than SSRIs.
Note: Keep in mind, this is not NOT a controlled lab epxperient, but just a collection of experiences reported but I still think it has some god knowledge in there.
Remember, commercial drugs like Prozac and Zoloft are anti-depressant drugs, but a specially type called SSRI's (Selective-Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor).
I hope that answers part of your question (or begins to ).
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Re: Ending a mescaline trip (P. torch) [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#10366032 - 05/19/09 07:27 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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ya fair enough... i didnt mean to sound like i was saying it wouldnt work, because honestly i dont know. just saying that using a tv show as a source is a bit unsound. still though, i try and avoid the antidepressants.
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Re: Ending a mescaline trip (P. torch) [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#10366074 - 05/19/09 07:37 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Don't take antipsychotics they won't work, neither will SSRI they all need to build up in the blood serum level over time. In the hospitals if they are certain a person is having a bad trip on LSD or Mescaline they always give 20 mg valium. I know because my friend was an RN in a major emergency center.
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Re: Ending a mescaline trip (P. torch) [Re: wrestler_az]
#10366157 - 05/19/09 07:49 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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I don't blame you for not believing that it would work. I actually went to research if the medical practices/medicine used on the show was accurate, it turns out (from reading a couple of websites decicated to critiquing the accuracy of the show) that the accuracy varies, from "good" medicine to "bad" or "wrong" medicine practice.
One reviewer pointed out that Foreman, the nueropsychologist on House's team, mixed up a lumbar puncture (a needle biopsy in the lower back) with a cervical puncture (a needle biopsy near the neck). That's pretty basic human anatomy, and one of the smartest doctors on the show (Foreman) messed that up.
After I read that, I've become pretty critical of the show, never assuming any of it is "good" medical science.
Anyway, be careful if you self-experiment with the SSRI anti-depressants, as the article stated some people had adverse reactions to it. Maybe try a small dose to see if it has any effect on the trip. I would try it at the peak, so you can compare and see the biggest difference.
Oh yeah, make sure you post the results: there's not much research in Mescaline and substances that counter-act/lessen Mescaline's psychoactive effects. I bet the Shroomery would benefit from it, especially people who consistently have bad trips on psychedelics.
Good Luck Experimenter! ~ LogicaL Chaos ~
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Re: Ending a mescaline trip (P. torch) [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#10366241 - 05/19/09 07:58 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm not an expert what I say is just what I heard, hearsay. I'm not even sure if Trichocereus actually have mescaline in them.
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wellage
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Wait a minute now.. a show about a hospital on tv isn't medically accurate????
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LogicaL Chaos
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Your kidding right?
Both Trichocereus Peruvianus (Peruvian Torch) and Trichocereus Pachanoi (San Pedro), among many other species within the Trichocereus genus are very psychoactive with mescaline (and to a lesser extent, other alkaloids).
Check out Erowid's Vault "Psychoactive Cacti" Link to Vault---> http://www.erowid.org/plants/cacti/cacti.shtml
You, of all Gods, should know Quetzalcohuatl, the Feathered-Serpent God of the Aztecs.
I mean, you Quetzalcohuatl created plants like San Pedro and Peruvian Torch, as well other divine plants Tlililtzin, Oliliuhqui and Shroomery's favorite, TeonanΓ‘catl.
But, I'll forgive you feathered-god: you probably just ate too many of your own divine creations and had some retrograde amnesia. Its' all good, you'll recover, you're supernatural after all!
Son of the Psychedelic God, ~ LogicaL Chaos ~
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Edited by LogicaL Chaos (05/19/09 08:18 PM)
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Re: Ending a mescaline trip (P. torch) [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#10366488 - 05/19/09 08:31 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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No I'm not kidding, I am not a chemist with a lab. They are herbal medicine to me, like peyote, I don't care about mescaline.
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