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 Hallucinogenic fish found in English Channel 
#10334221 - 05/13/09 07:19 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Bending the mind: Fish that causes hallucinations is netted in English Channel
May 14, 2009 - dailymail.co.uk
 A fish that can trigger LSD-like hallucinations when eaten has been discovered in UK waters.
The sarpa salpa species of bream is normally found in the Mediterranean and around South Africa.
But fisherman Andy Giles has told how he hauled a sarpa salpa, instantly recognisable by its gold stripes, near Polperro, Cornwall.
Mr Giles, 38, said: 'We were trawling for lemon sole and hauled it up at the end of the day. After taking a photograph, I put it in the fish box and brought it back for experts.
'Perhaps I should have taken it into town to sell to some clubbers!'
There have only been three recordings of sarpa salpa in British waters before.
Experts say they may be being lured north by warmer waters.
Marine biologist James Wright said: 'It could be a single fish shoaling with a different species but it could be there are more in our seas.'
Sarpa salpa are served in Mediterranean restaurants - but if the head is eaten hallucinations, caused by plankton the fish eats, can last days.
In 2006, two men, one aged 90, suffered hallucinations and nightmares for days after eating sarpa salpa in southern France.
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Re: Hallucinogenic fish found in English Channel [Re: veggie]
#10334243 - 05/13/09 07:22 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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weird, wonder what chemical/chemical family it is..
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Re: Hallucinogenic fish found in English Channel [Re: PilzeEssen]
#10334274 - 05/13/09 07:29 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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How long until we can ban it?
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Re: Hallucinogenic fish found in English Channel [Re: PilzeEssen]
#10334320 - 05/13/09 07:37 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
PilzeEssen said:
weird, wonder what chemical/chemical family it is..
i wrote the wikipedia article on it back in 2006, its called Ichthyoallyeinotoxism
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Re: Hallucinogenic fish found in English Channel [Re: PilzeEssen]
#10334332 - 05/13/09 07:39 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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>weird, wonder what chemical/chemical family it is..<
I was curious about that too and found the info below on this page.
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Indoles, with similar chemical effects to LSD (lysergic acid diethylamide) are believed to be responsible and may be consumed when the fish eat algae or phytoplankton containing the chemicals. All of the species effected by ichthyoallyeinotoxism are algal grazers.
Others have claimed that different species of ichthyoallyeinotoxic fishes, such as Kyphosus fuseus, contain much more potent hallucinogens, such as dimethyltryptamine or DMT, which is considered to be one of the world's most mind-bending hallucinogenic chemicals.
I don't foresee fish head eating parties... bleah. But I can see trying to grow the algae that causes this phenomenon.
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Re: Hallucinogenic fish found in English Channel [Re: veggie]
#10334419 - 05/13/09 07:54 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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ive always wonder what sort of drugs are out there in the underwater world
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Re: Hallucinogenic fish found in English Channel [Re: Spliffyfist]
#10334640 - 05/13/09 08:34 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Time to fish it to extinction before it evolves to grow legs and comes to possess our children.
Edited by THEBats (05/13/09 08:39 PM)
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Re: Hallucinogenic fish found in English Channel [Re: THEBats]
#10335940 - 05/14/09 01:03 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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hell yeah more drugs 
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Re: Hallucinogenic fish found in English Channel [Re: I AM SWIM]
#10335951 - 05/14/09 01:06 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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I got stung by a jelly fish and I was fucked up once.. I did get to see a alot of titties looking down at me while I was on the ground. It was so worth it.. 
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Re: Hallucinogenic fish found in English Channel [Re: veggie]
#10339301 - 05/14/09 06:04 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
veggie said:
Sarpa salpa are served in Mediterranean restaurants - but if the head is eaten hallucinations, caused by plankton the fish eats, can last days.
In 2006, two men, one aged 90, suffered hallucinations and nightmares for days after eating sarpa salpa in southern France.
The title excited my imagination, but after I read this I was disappointed. Tripping for days on end doesn't appeal to me and neither does eating fish heads!
I wonder why it's only the head that makes you trip.
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Re: Hallucinogenic fish found in English Channel [Re: orison]
#10339530 - 05/14/09 06:41 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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So, it's legal, takes effect in minutes, and lasts several days? I might have to eat me a fish head the next time I got a week to kill. We need more info, somebody get a fish head to the lab, stat!
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Re: Hallucinogenic fish found in English Channel [Re: timekiller]
#10339697 - 05/14/09 07:10 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Wonder what kind of high you would get if you ate the human head? 
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Re: Hallucinogenic fish found in English Channel [Re: TrancedShroom]
#10339722 - 05/14/09 07:14 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Fish heads can be quite tasty, the brain is actually surprisingly tasty.
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Re: Hallucinogenic fish found in English Channel [Re: Grapefruit]
#10340007 - 05/14/09 08:15 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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It'd be nice if they said how much of the head is commonly eaten. It's seems that a smaller amount would be better for "recreational use." (Duhhhhh)
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walzmanm
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Re: Hallucinogenic fish found in English Channel [Re: MacklinReed]
#10340126 - 05/14/09 08:38 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Just the eye for a buzz.
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Re: Hallucinogenic fish found in English Channel [Re: veggie]
#10340298 - 05/14/09 09:07 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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 Poor 90 year old guy, as if they aren't out of it enough already
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Re: Hallucinogenic fish found in English Channel [Re: Jadian]
#10343758 - 05/15/09 01:45 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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I wonder if they are inherently terrifying.
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Re: Hallucinogenic fish found in English Channel [Re: Your Destination]
#10348396 - 05/16/09 12:35 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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