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Need dry grain for grain jars and grain bags?
    #10236638 - 04/26/09 01:44 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

So I am taking a mix of a PF TEK for 1/2 pnt. and pnt jars. Then With those I am inoculating Grain bags. ( the TEK calls for a little bit of dry white winter wheat grain to be mixed in the jars with the already prepared grain. Same went for the grain bags. Is that right? I thought the purpose was to boil ALL the grain to help show and kill bacteria. So why would it ask for some dry to be added, sounds like contamination...)

And then I am finishing it up with this tek: Faht makes a bulk tub
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7893964#7893964

without the casing layer. (Will this all work?)

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Re: Need dry grain for grain jars and grain bags? [Re: GrimShadow]
    #10237092 - 04/26/09 03:04 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

anything except straight grain can be fruited w/o a casing, use some crumpled/flattened wax paper spread over sub to keep rh at the surface high.

as for grains, adding dry ones could be a problem point, if ungerminated endospres remain in the dry grain its a baterial time bomb. id just make straight pf cakes theyre fine as spawn, if im making cakes specifically to spawn i do them a little differently, i hydrate with a weak coffee soloution instead of water and i change verm ratio to 3 cups verm to 1 cup brf. the reason for the extra verm is to make the mixture looser so it can colonize quicker, since its getting spawned to bulk there will be plenty of nutes for it once it gets there.

this is as far as im aware unproven but if im using spores, i add a tablespoon of marmite to my coffee soloution too, it seems to help in colonization, that is only an opinion though, i havent noticed any detriment to my cakes from the addition of marmite.


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Re: Need dry grain for grain jars and grain bags? [Re: DeadDog]
    #10237948 - 04/26/09 05:34 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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( the TEK calls for a little bit of dry white winter wheat grain to be mixed in the jars with the already prepared grain.




Sounds like someone without a clue wrote a 'tek'.  If you want to prepare grains, I'd suggest my grain tek.  I hope you're not planning on inoculating sterilized grains with a colonized brf cake.  If so, you've gotten some horrible advice.
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Re: Need dry grain for grain jars and grain bags? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #10238779 - 04/26/09 08:01 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

NO, I am taking the colonized grain jars and using them to colonize bags. And then from bags to the fruiting bin to fruit.

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