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How To Stop a Bad Trip:benzodiazepine V.S. anti psychotic
    #10179524 - 04/16/09 05:52 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

OK shroomery,
Me and some friends of mine always use to talk about how if we were to have a bad trip we would just take a 2mg Xanax to come down,and I have also read in a few forums where people say that benzodiazepines are the best for bring you down.Well about 4 months ago a friend of mine finally had to put it to the test and he popped a bar to try and stop his trip from getting any worse.Guess what,it did not help he said that it just kind of physically calmed him down but did not help the mental mind fuck at all.About 4 weeks ago I myself had to put it to the test and also concluded that it did not really help much.The last time I tripped(last Fri)I wigged the fuck out because I have anxiety attacks and had one that lasted damn near 3hrs.I had no trouble excepting the ego death or the supper mental trip but my body would not relax like my mind so I believe that if I had about 3mg xanax that would have helped me out during this particular trip.The whole time I was wigging I was thinking about what they give people at the hospital to bring them down.I was told that they use drugs like Thorazine and how-dole witch are antipsycodics.So I would like to hear from some of you guys that are quite knowledgeable in the pharmaceutical area what is more likely to STOP a bad trip.After my bad trip last weekend I obtained some Seroquile and Valium I do not want to take something that might possible hurt me mentally/physically.So some input would be appreciated and also feel free to share some stories related to the topic.
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Re: How To Stop a Bad Trip:benzodiazepine V.S. anti psychotic [Re: DNBplus]
    #10179574 - 04/16/09 06:03 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Best way to stop a bad trip is to go with it and accept what's going on.

Everything else is just delusional trickery that may or may not make your mind-set take a more relaxing turn.


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Re: How To Stop a Bad Trip:benzodiazepine V.S. anti psychotic [Re: DNBplus]
    #10179581 - 04/16/09 06:04 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

How do you calm someone down? Benzos. How do you STOP a trip? Anti-psychotics. Pretty simple. Benzos are just going to relieve anxiety and calm you down. Anti-psychotics (most of them, anyway) are going to antagonize 5-HT and, frequently, dopamine receptors. Big difference.


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Re: How To Stop a Bad Trip:benzodiazepine V.S. anti psychotic [Re: LSDreamer]
    #10179595 - 04/16/09 06:06 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I can tell you right now that just taking xanax is not enough.

I had 2.5 grams lemon tekked and ate 2 more grams and started freaking out so I had some xanax, and the trip was still full length and intensity.

I eventually chilled out though.

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Re: How To Stop a Bad Trip:benzodiazepine V.S. anti psychotic [Re: LSDreamer]
    #10179629 - 04/16/09 06:14 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

that's what I thought,but so many people scream "Xanax"man I think it would honestly take like 5-7mg to "stop" a bad trip.Now I know from my experience that xanax will slow down the visuals,but does not do much for the mental trip.And I never said they were anything alike,LOL look at the chemacal structure.

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Re: How To Stop a Bad Trip:benzodiazepine V.S. anti psychotic [Re: DNBplus]
    #10179655 - 04/16/09 06:19 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I have probably only had 4 bad trips out of 100+,but like I said the last one was due to physically problems that where beyond my control.I would like to know how I could medicate the anxiety without effecting the trip(like I said IMO xanax effects the visuals).

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Re: How To Stop a Bad Trip:benzodiazepine V.S. anti psychotic [Re: DNBplus]
    #10179671 - 04/16/09 06:23 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

^Impossible.


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Re: How To Stop a Bad Trip:benzodiazepine V.S. anti psychotic [Re: LSDreamer]
    #10179709 - 04/16/09 06:31 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Yea thats what I thought,sucks to hear it from someone else(that knows what they are talking about).

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Re: How To Stop a Bad Trip:benzodiazepine V.S. anti psychotic [Re: DNBplus]
    #10179817 - 04/16/09 06:49 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I've never taken Xanax, but when I was having a panic attack on mushrooms once, I took some temazepam (Restoril) and it sorted me right out.


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Re: How To Stop a Bad Trip:benzodiazepine V.S. anti psychotic [Re: LSDreamer]
    #10179839 - 04/16/09 06:52 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

did it effect the visuals at all?I am worried that my anxiety problems will put a stop to my tripping days and I am not ready to except that yet so I am willing to try anything that will not harm my mind or body.

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Re: How To Stop a Bad Trip:benzodiazepine V.S. anti psychotic [Re: DNBplus]
    #10179845 - 04/16/09 06:54 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I don't know...I was more concerned with the relief I was feeling at not having a panic attack anymore. Get some 2C-B or something if anxiety is that big of a deal.


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Re: How To Stop a Bad Trip:benzodiazepine V.S. anti psychotic [Re: LSDreamer]
    #10179860 - 04/16/09 06:56 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

When it comes to rc's I know I have done DOx and AMT and both of them IMO did not have much mental trip at all,is 2c-b like that for you?

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Re: How To Stop a Bad Trip:benzodiazepine V.S. anti psychotic [Re: DNBplus]
    #10179864 - 04/16/09 06:56 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, 2C-B is pretty light on the mind.


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Re: How To Stop a Bad Trip:benzodiazepine V.S. anti psychotic [Re: DNBplus]
    #10179866 - 04/16/09 06:57 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Start taking 2C's instead

Aren't there a decent amount of 2C's that are very visual with almost no mental effects? A lot of people tell me that..


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Re: How To Stop a Bad Trip:benzodiazepine V.S. anti psychotic [Re: DNBplus]
    #10179876 - 04/16/09 06:58 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

yea a full blown paic attack sucks so bad while tripping,I can handle the anxiety attacks(I dont like to but I can)but I have had one full blown panic attack while tripping and I though I was about to die.

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Re: How To Stop a Bad Trip:benzodiazepine V.S. anti psychotic [Re: DNBplus]
    #10179889 - 04/16/09 07:00 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Dont get me wrong mentally I can handle it just not physically and I love the mental part of a trip.

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Re: How To Stop a Bad Trip:benzodiazepine V.S. anti psychotic [Re: DNBplus]
    #10179901 - 04/16/09 07:02 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Erm...what? That doesn't really make a whole lot of sense to me. Anxiety is a mental thing.


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Re: How To Stop a Bad Trip:benzodiazepine V.S. anti psychotic [Re: LSDreamer]
    #10179907 - 04/16/09 07:03 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah you're kind of contradicting yourself here


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Re: How To Stop a Bad Trip:benzodiazepine V.S. anti psychotic [Re: LSDXM]
    #10180253 - 04/16/09 07:57 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

what I mean by that is OK I will lay it out for you guys
Last time I was tripping I was about 3hrs in and I noticed and said to myself "man I am tripping hard, cool"right after I thought that I noticed hey why is my leg bouncing up and down so much,Then I begin to notice all the muscles in my body tensing up and then I realize that I am about to have an anxiety attack,then I ask myself "why?"I cannot control it I begin to have trouble breathing and I cannot relax at all.I tense up get the urge to stretch every muscle in my body out(it sucks to get the urge to straighten your legs when you are tense as fuck)and I do everything I can to convince myself that everything is cool and I need to just relax,and mentally I convince myself and 10 seconds later right back into the attack :frown:

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Re: How To Stop a Bad Trip:benzodiazepine V.S. anti psychotic [Re: LSDXM]
    #10180270 - 04/16/09 08:00 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

what I mean by that is OK I will lay it out for you guys
Last time I was tripping I was about 3hrs in and I noticed and said to myself "man I am tripping hard, cool"right after I thought that I noticed hey why is my leg bouncing up and down so much,Then I begin to notice all the muscles in my body tensing up and then I realize that I am about to have an anxiety attack,then I ask myself "why?"I cannot control it I begin to have trouble breathing and I cannot relax at all.I tense up get the urge to stretch every muscle in my body out(it sucks to get the urge to straighten your legs when you are tense as fuck)and I do everything I can to convince myself that everything is cool and I need to just relax,and mentally I convince myself and 10 seconds later right back into the attack :frown:

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